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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 187953 times)

shylo

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #270 on: September 12, 2010, 10:19:51 PM »
Hi all I just signed up because I find this to be very interesting ........If someone such as "lasersaber" can make this work for such a long period of time...does it really matter if its a battery....or if it's wetted...seems to me we have an endless supply of salt water...it seems to me to be a waste of energy arguing.......I tried making one ......didn't work......due to lack of proper materials...........youtube vidieos' don't work for me I'm on dial up ....sucks.........I tried , soft core wound in cotton ,wound a layer of steel wire(electric fence wire)..then a layer of cotton...then a layer of stripped extension cord multiple strands ..........not sure if extension cord wire is insulated or not ,assuming its' not...........three layers of each ...but the winds were not uniform and not tight together..........discussion on the topic is fasinating....arguing about what it is, is a waste of everybodies time ...........lets focous on the topic at hand.........shylo   

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #271 on: September 12, 2010, 10:29:49 PM »
To achieve that, I suggest the experimenter performs at least a test with an "amateur faraday cage": Take a cardboard box, cover all sides with cheap aluminium foil from the grocery, earth it, put the device into it. Then lead 2 short wires from the device to the outside of the box and measure again. I'm interested in the results.
really? and that's it? then it's debunked? you and omnibus think a faraday cage is a 'one size fits all' thing don't you... ::)
what you suggest will only short out the e-field of em waves with wavelengths longer than the vhf range... if you knew how a faraday cage works or had ever experimented with one you would know this. what about all the other noise, like 60hz?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #272 on: September 12, 2010, 10:55:27 PM »

How much should we bet that none of the experimenters here will do that and film it and post it? Thats been a common problem on the forums that people DO NOT want to show their FAILED experiments. And really, there is nothing wrong with showing the good and the bad results. Its human nature I think to not want to show our failed attempts at anything.

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NOT TRUE.  I am more than willing to report on failed experiments.  And I've seen many threads where experimenters own up to failed tests.  I personally think failed tests are as important as any other - because they're scientifically relevant and required for progress. 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #273 on: September 12, 2010, 11:00:21 PM »
Hi all I just signed up because I find this to be very interesting ........If someone such as "lasersaber" can make this work for such a long period of time...does it really matter if its a battery....or if it's wetted...seems to me we have an endless supply of salt water...it seems to me to be a waste of energy arguing.......I tried making one ......didn't work......due to lack of proper materials...........youtube vidieos' don't work for me I'm on dial up ....sucks.........I tried , soft core wound in cotton ,wound a layer of steel wire(electric fence wire)..then a layer of cotton...then a layer of stripped extension cord multiple strands ..........not sure if extension cord wire is insulated or not ,assuming its' not...........three layers of each ...but the winds were not uniform and not tight together..........discussion on the topic is fasinating....arguing about what it is, is a waste of everybodies time ...........lets focous on the topic at hand.........shylo   

Shylo - welcome to the discussion. 

The trick is to wind bifilar iron and copper.  Lasersaber uses cotton coated wire - and T shirt type cotton between each winding layer.  But interesting to read that pure wire does not work.  did you use the reed switches and the same type rotor?

Regards,
Rosemary


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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #274 on: September 12, 2010, 11:19:29 PM »
what you suggest will only short out the e-field of em waves with wavelengths longer than the vhf range... if you knew how a faraday cage works or had ever experimented with one you would know this. what about all the other noise, like 60hz?

That's why I call it "amateur faraday cage". I should have added that for best results with the amatuer box one should go outside into the open empty country and then check the device. At least a considerable part of interferences will be prevented this way. But as it is now even the electric distribution boards in lasersabres room can easily cause the coils to collect hundreds (!) of milliVolts. I can do this myself with a simple wire anytime, why should it be different in lasersabres room? You'll certainly understand that this is a huge problem when needing to evaluate the results. Thus my suggestion with the amateur box outside, which shouldn't be too costly.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #275 on: September 12, 2010, 11:25:36 PM »
That's why I call it "amateur faraday cage". I should have added that for best results with the amatuer box one should go outside into the open empty country and then check the device. You can't do much more without getting it too costly. At least a considerable part of interferences will be stopped this way. But as it is now even the electric distribution boards in lasersabres room can easily collect hundreds of milliVolts. I can do myself with a simple wire, why should it be different in lasersabres room? You'll certainly understand that this is a problem when needing to evaluate the results and that any results can easily misinterpreted. Thus my suggestion with the amateur box, which shouldn't be too costly.

Then do the tests and tell us the results please. 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #276 on: September 12, 2010, 11:31:45 PM »
Here is a post from jeanna on the : Nathan Stubblefield Earth battery/Self Generating Induction Coil Replications thread
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3500.msg256786#new
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Hi everybody,
Lidmotor just pm'd me this link to someone in spain who has made a lasersaber stubblefield with the addition of a capacitor. I tried the cap once and found that the metal seemed to last.
I still do not have a working unit myself, but this guy does.

Have a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihmGdDpB2o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4heZ0_rYdvg

jeanna
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gauschor

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #277 on: September 12, 2010, 11:35:53 PM »
@Rosemary:
I have not built the NS coils, because of the simple fact that I can pickup hundreds of mV in my own experimentation room with a pair of cables 3 meter length. I don't even need to wind them up nicely. I am highly assuming that the same happens with the proposed NS coils of lasersabre. If he claims, that it isn't the case, and his power comes from somewhere else, it is his job, to prove it or at least try to eliminate the most disturbing factors. Understood?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #278 on: September 12, 2010, 11:42:29 PM »
@Rosemary:
I have not built the NS coils, because of the simple fact that I can pickup hundreds of mV in my own experimentation room with a pair of cables 3 meter length. I don't even need to wind them up nicely. I am highly assuming that the same happens with the proposed NS coils of lasersabre. If he claims, that it isn't the case, and his power comes from somewhere else, it is his job, to prove it. Understood?

@ grauchor

Indeed.  IF he claimed anything at all.  He does not.  He simply points at the experiment and shows us what's happening.   Perhaps you and Omnibus could return the favour and follow that good example.

Rosemary

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #279 on: September 12, 2010, 11:59:25 PM »
@Rosemary:
I have not built the NS coils, because of the simple fact that I can pickup hundreds of mV in my own experimentation room with a pair of cables 3 meter length. I don't even need to wind them up nicely. I am highly assuming that the same happens with the proposed NS coils of lasersabre. If he claims, that it isn't the case, and his power comes from somewhere else, it is his job, to prove it or at least try to eliminate the most disturbing factors. Understood?

I said it before and I will say it one more time.

There were NO radio stations at that time anywhere nor POWER GRIDS in Stubblefield's area of the country when he was doing his work.  So why, if someone is replicating his work and his results, does a Faraday cage become the most important focus?

Stubblefield's devices are documented to have worked back then.  Many folks, including myself, have built them and they work.  Now Lasersaber takes it to the next level and suddenly, it must only work due to rf ?

One more time....there was NO RF back in Stubblefield's day which is why he is known as the father of RADIO.  It did not exist before him.  Does this make sense now?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #280 on: September 13, 2010, 12:20:53 AM »
IF he claimed anything at all.  He does not.  He simply points at the experiment and shows us what's happening.
Are you not interested where that power could come from  ???

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie link=topic=9687.msg256797#msg256797  date=1284327749
return the favour and follow that good example.

What good example?

If I find out the very first time in my life how a galvanic cell works and then start a topic on that, is this a good example? No.
If I find out the very first time in my life that I can pick up some voltage when putting a cable into the air and then start a topic on it, is this a good example? No.

We are talking about commonly known things in electricity. And even if both of these examples are not well known by the individual one can easily apply this knowledge yourself with a simple google search. And that's why I didn't start a topic a year ago about "collecting free energy from the air". This would have been a joke, but you are talking about such a thing as if it's the "killa device from outa space".

If both of the above examples aren't the case, then he needs to prove it, as I said before. Unless this happens, there is absolutely nothing special to it, because it's most likely a power source from the grid.


@Pirate: I am talking of the devices developed by lasersaber, not the real Stubblefield Coils. Btw. did you know Stubblefields family got sick because the water was contaminated?

I got this post in forum, supposedly written by his grandchildren, here a quote:
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Grandpa was now once again blamed by his wife of 36 years for  accidentally poisoning three of their nine children through  inadvertencies. Neither, at the time of their experimenting with various  mixtures of Pitchblende and salt crystals within their 85  farmland soil, knew it was contaminating Teleph-on-delgreen. From 1881  to 1906, the soil-coil RF antenna "hotspots" -- that made it possible  for Grandpa Nathan Stubblefield to develop and patent the 1898 induction  earth batteries and 1908 Wireless Telephoneâ„¢ -- did contaminate their  foodstuffs and water.

NOTE: Pitchblende is Uranium rich ore the same stuff M Currie  used to extract RADIUM.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3497-aromaz-radiant-energy-joint-research-group-22.html#post47606

Are these the legendary Stubblefield coils we are talking about? Great...
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #281 on: September 13, 2010, 02:59:59 AM »
We have researched Mr. Stubblefield very thoroughly and only saw one mention of the story you are claiming to be true about the pitchblende.  This story does not fit the facts at all.  We all have serious doubts as to if there is any truth at all to this rumor.

Fact:

Stubblefield went on a tour with his cells to Philly, NY and DC.  If he needed uranium ore for his devices to work, how did they work at all of his demonstrations on the road?  He has gone down in history for making the first ship to shore phone call from a boat on the Potomac river. Did he fill the river up with pitchblende?

It just does not fit the facts and the rest of the history.  Many feel it was a story made up in an attempt to discredit him.  His son died of a fever, a very common ailment in those days.

Bill

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #282 on: September 13, 2010, 03:32:37 AM »

I go away for 2 days and you all let a comment from Omnibus "trick" you into wasting your time discussing the stealing of energy from radio stations  >:( when you should be testing Mr. Stubblefield's coil to prove where it gets its power and how it gets its power.

What a shame.  :'(

DonL



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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #283 on: September 13, 2010, 03:39:16 AM »
But Guys,  on a more serious note - I understood that Omnibus' initial objection to this experiment which he regards as 'trivial' is because the galvanic action is enabled with the addition of water which is seen as an electrolyte.  Therefore we are using a battery principle rather than free energy.  If we could just put this to bed - for once and for all.  Water is ABSOLUTELY NOT REQUIRED.  Here's the proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2a3uTU0fgc&feature=related

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Be careful not to mix LaserSabers 2 different coils.
One has iron core and bare steel & insulated copper wire wrapped around it. 
This other one has carbon core and magnesium wrapped around it.

These could prove to be getting the electricity from totally different sources and processes.


And where is Omnibus' experiments?
Why is Omnibus demanding everyone else to prove/disprove his ideas/thoughts.

DonL


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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #284 on: September 13, 2010, 03:44:58 AM »
I go away for 2 days and you all let a comment from Omnibus "trick" you into wasting your time discussing the stealing of energy from radio stations  >:( when you should be testing Mr. Stubblefield's coil to prove where it gets its power and how it gets its power.

What a shame.  :'(

DonL
Good point Don. If you let these clowns derail the thread by talking to them you only have yourselves to blame. They're full of crap. Don't let them suck you in. Don't take the bait. Stick to the topic.

Ted