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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 189039 times)

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #240 on: September 12, 2010, 03:23:09 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on September 12, 2010, 09:16:31 AM
@Pirate88179,

I really don't believe that insulated wires wound in a coil work when placed in a Faraday cage.
Fortunately science is NOT progressed by 'belief' but by experimental evidence.

Quote from: Omnibus on September 12, 2010, 09:16:31 AM
...but, remember, sometimes we may be somewhat gullible. This is a serious question and it shouldn't be taken over by amateurs and incompetent enthusiasts.
Golly.  I suspect he may be referring to me.  LOL.  Whatever next!   ;D

Rosemary.
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #241 on: September 12, 2010, 03:31:17 PM »
Quote from: nievesoliveras on September 12, 2010, 02:13:20 PM
Is it this what you mean?
Open the file on windows paint and correct it as you want it.

Jesus

Hello Jesus.  It's definitely close.  But I got bored with putting in all the coils.  It's meant to wrap around the whole of that half structure and I'll put bobbins? is that the term? at the ends.  I also want to try with the second half of that same pipe - but will delay this until and if I can get the rotor to spin.   Also. The rotor extends beyond the pipe and not as I've represented it.  In other words the diameter of the pipe is marginally smaller rather than bigger than the rotor's diameter.  I only drew it this way to show the actual shape of the proposed core. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
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IotaYodi

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #242 on: September 12, 2010, 03:41:44 PM »
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I thought of simply packing that hollow with iron filings
You may be able to pound coat hangers or welding rods into it.

When you couple an inductance to the magnetic field of a power line,that inductance becomes part of the circuit putting a load on the circuit. I cant see electromagnetic radio frequencies through the air putting a load on the transmitter. Unless its proven Ill grab any electromagnetic wave and use it. I just cant re transmit any audio,visual or communication signals. Seeing how radio waves radiate out in all directions it would take a large magnetic field to converge them to one spot. If that happened you would have cars,buses,trains and steel in buildings on top of your coil. If you were still alive you could call it the Black hole coil!
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #243 on: September 12, 2010, 03:53:38 PM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 12, 2010, 08:35:38 AM
Rose:

I call it plastic because the mag wire I bought said it had a polyurethane coating.  Now, Don says his mag wire has enamel coating, which is probably true.  As far as Ominbus's questions, no matter the coating, this "should not work" unless it is bare wire.  But, it does.

As I have said before from my personal experiments and studies,  I believe there is a galvanic component to this BUT, I also believe there is something more. What that is I can't really say but from everyone's experiments I am confident in my opinion here.

The more folks working with this and posting their results, the more we will all learn what is, and what is not.

Bill

Hello Bill.  Here's the thing.  Laser has already tested the insulated wiring as his wires DO NOT touch each other.  He does not - from what I've seen - strip his copper.  Copper is usually insulated.  Therefore the iron and copper are absolutely separate both on and between each of his windings.  So I entirely agree that this much is done and dusted.  The practical, theoretical and actual evidence is, therefore, that the galvanic effect is NOT eliminated with insulation - I would have thought?

Also - to address this latest concern that the 'energy' is coming from RF.  Again.  My knowledge of all things is limited.  But I thought that the principle of picking up RF rather relied on open ended wiring - and there's nothing required to be open ended in any of Laser's builds.  Therefore I would have thought that this could be entirely discounted as a source of the energy as is now being suggested.  Quite apart from which, in the use of any transistor - MOSFET IGBT whatever - then they would, theoretically be entirely distorted by this - as RF is everywhere.

But - again - I don't know the answer here.  But I have a question.  If a radio broadcasts at a certain frequency is it required that the radio station put out these frequencies at ever increasing amounts as their ratings improve?  I doubt it.  2, 20, 2000 or 2 billion listeners tuned into one station makes no difference to the required output.  Which speaks eloquently to the principles of aether energies, in my humble opinion.  It therefore is an unlikely argument to use against OU.  But I suspect that it's largely irrelevant as a description of what's happening here precisely because Laser's rig is NOT open ended.  He's got reed switches at both ends and they are opening and closing in synch with those collapsing fields.

Regards,
Rosemary
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Omnibus

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #244 on: September 12, 2010, 03:54:48 PM »
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 12, 2010, 03:02:38 PM
i see. so your opinion is that if station WXYZ sets up a a "pay" radio station at FM 103.3 and told people not to tune in there unless they've paid, then station WXYZ could take legal action...  ::)

Correct, unless station WXYZ has deals with advertisers and can afford not to charge you. Otherwise it will definitely charge you, as is the practice nowadays. Like I said, similar as in the newspaper industry -- some newspapers are free but many more are paid.

It is not a matter of discussion that whoever taps into the high voltage power lines or a radio station for the purposes of using these as energy sources is in fact a robber, stealing energy from these enterprises. That should be clear to anybody prior to coming to this forum to discuss free energy and OU.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #245 on: September 12, 2010, 03:56:48 PM »
It's pretty sad that incompetent amateurs hijack forums such as this and overwhelm it with their gibberish which greatly hinders the fruitful discussions.
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #246 on: September 12, 2010, 03:58:12 PM »
Quote from: IotaYodi on September 12, 2010, 03:41:44 PM
You may be able to pound coat hangers or welding rods into it.
Thanks Iota.  I think it'll be easier with iron filings and I get it they will also work.  It actually is interesting as I could also try and pack the inside with copper as another variation of this.  But it all first depends on whether this will get the rotor to spin.  Can't wait to find out.

Quote from: IotaYodi on September 12, 2010, 03:41:44 PM
When you couple an inductance to the magnetic field of a power line,that inductance becomes part of the circuit putting a load on the circuit. I cant see electromagnetic radio frequencies through the air putting a load on the transmitter. Unless its proven Ill grab any electromagnetic wave and use it. I just cant re transmit any audio,visual or communication signals. Seeing how radio waves radiate out in all directions it would take a large magnetic field to converge them to one spot. If that happened you would have cars,buses,trains and steel in buildings on top of your coil. If you were still alive you could call it the Black hole coil!
Nice to see another argument against this. 

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #247 on: September 12, 2010, 04:00:20 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on September 12, 2010, 03:54:48 PM
Correct, unless station WXYZ has deals with advertisers and can afford not to charge you. Otherwise it will definitely charge you, as is the practice nowadays. Like I said, similar as in the newspaper industry -- some newspapers are free but many more are paid.

It is not a matter of discussion that whoever taps into the high voltage power lines or a radio station for the purposes of using these as energy sources is in fact a robber, stealing energy from these enterprises. That should be clear to anybody prior to coming to this forum to discuss free energy and OU.
COOL! so i can set up my own station, NOT deal with advertising and just start charging everyone using a radio (or even an antenna!) that is within the broadcast area of my transmitter!!!  ::)

indeed, it is simply a matter of your OPINION. regardless, you are putting the cart before the horse as usual. you would need to demonstrate that these coils are tuning in the specific station...
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #248 on: September 12, 2010, 04:03:35 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on September 12, 2010, 03:56:48 PM
It's pretty sad that incompetent amateurs hijack forums such as this and overwhelm it with their gibberish which greatly hinders the fruitful discussions.
indeed. so you should return to your steorn threads... where you can talk and theorize with flawed logic to your heart's content.
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #249 on: September 12, 2010, 04:23:56 PM »
But Guys,  on a more serious note - I understood that Omnibus' initial objection to this experiment which he regards as 'trivial' is because the galvanic action is enabled with the addition of water which is seen as an electrolyte.  Therefore we are using a battery principle rather than free energy.  If we could just put this to bed - for once and for all.  Water is ABSOLUTELY NOT REQUIRED.  Here's the proof.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2a3uTU0fgc&feature=related

This discounts any claims that the rig REQUIRES an electrolyte.  But even if it did - then the water is definitely not being used as is typically used with electrolytes where the molecules are constituted and reconstituted.  Hopefully we'll soon get some detailed analysis on this from a qualified chemist.  This also means that technically this is NOT a battery.  If anything - it's a generator.  I'm not sure if the galvanic effect is still regarded as a battery effect of sorts - but WIKI's definition indicates that it requires a salt bridge and I would have thought that this argues for an electrolyte. 

The intriguing thing here, to me, is that two metals can develop a useable voltage potential.  Personally I think that this is what Nathan Stubblefield saw so clearly and which, possibly, we have all missed - until Lasersaber's input - and, correctly - it seems I should also be giving some real and belated tribute to those Joule Thief contributors.  It's just that I never read those threads.  And I never knew of this effect.  Clearly a huge omission on my part.  But I intend to make up for it.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #250 on: September 12, 2010, 04:29:30 PM »
@WilbyInebriated

Don't be ridiculous. Maybe you haven't realized yet, but it is the job of the topicstarter to check the source of power, and not reverse. Avoiding that or pushing it off to others is lame, especially if we are talking about the 2 biggest and most widely known mistakes for "free energy":
#1 galvanic reaction
#2 picking up external EMF

Every experimenter should check these 2 things before making claims. It's like the ABC in the overunity scene. Once both of them have been eliminated, the device will be interesting for further investigation and replication.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #251 on: September 12, 2010, 04:32:17 PM »
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 12, 2010, 04:00:20 PM
COOL! so i can set up my own station, NOT deal with advertising and just start charging everyone using a radio (or even an antenna!) that is within the broadcast area of my transmitter!!!  ::)

indeed, it is simply a matter of your OPINION. regardless, you are putting the cart before the horse as usual. you would need to demonstrate that these coils are tuning in the specific station...

You may go on with your nonsense as long as you want but it will still remain nonsense and will be clogging the bandwidth of this forum.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #252 on: September 12, 2010, 04:33:57 PM »
Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 04:29:30 PM
@WilbyInebriated

Don't be ridiculous. Maybe you haven't realized yet, but it is the job of the topicstarter to check the source of power, and not reverse. Avoiding that or pushing it off to others is lame, especially if we are talking about the 2 biggest and most widely known mistakes for "free energy":
#1 galvanic reaction
#2 picking up external EMF

Every experimenter should check these 2 things before making claims. It's like the ABC in the overunity scene. Once both of them have been eliminated, the device will be interesting for further investigation and replication.

Of course.
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Omnibus

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #253 on: September 12, 2010, 04:34:47 PM »
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 12, 2010, 04:03:35 PM
indeed. so you should return to your steorn threads... where you can talk and theorize with flawed logic to your heart's content.

Like I said, you can spew your nonsense all you want but it will still remain nonsense.
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WilbyInebriated

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #254 on: September 12, 2010, 04:36:25 PM »
Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 04:29:30 PM
@WilbyInebriated

Don't be ridiculous. Maybe you haven't realized yet, but it is the job of the topicstarter to check the source of power, and not reverse. Avoiding that or pushing it off to others is lame, especially if we are talking about the 2 biggest and most widely known mistakes for "free energy":
#1 galvanic reaction
#2 picking up external EMF

Every experimenter should check these 2 things before making claims. It's like the ABC in the overunity scene. Once both of them have been eliminated, the device will be interesting for further investigation and replication.
don't be ridiculous... maybe you haven't realized it yet, but nobody really wants to do your test for you because your 'concerns' are obviously not their concerns. if you are SO concerned about it then wind a coil, toss it in your faraday cage and then let us know the results. furthermore, it is not his 'job' and he has never claimed 'overunity'. the only lame thing here (other than omnibus...) is you telling others what is 'required' of them. ::)

it is obviously interesting to some as there already ARE replications and investigations. so it doesn't interest you, no one cares... mint?
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