Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months! (Read 188961 times)

lasersaber · « **Reply #165 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:08:26 PM »

@happyfunball

Here is what I said earlier in the thread.

Quote

I did originally wet it in salt water, but since then I have not added any water at all. It's been 75 days now running dry, though I am sure that air humidity is maintaining a low level of moisture in the coil.

Omnibus · « **Reply #166 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:12:35 PM »

Quote from: lasersaber on September 07, 2010, 07:08:26 PM

@happyfunball

Here is what I said earlier in the thread.

Like I said, try plastic-insulated wire and let's see what happens, what voltage are you gonna measure then.

happyfunball · « **Reply #167 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:24:06 PM »

Quote from: lasersaber on September 07, 2010, 07:08:26 PM

@happyfunball

Here is what I said earlier in the thread.

Thanks, I did read that. I'm just wondering how you've determined that it is dry, as multiple windings of cotton covered wire would seem to have the ability to trap the moisture. Especially when encased by a secondary of enamel coated secondary coil.

Rosemary Ainslie · « **Reply #168 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:32:58 PM »

Quote from: happyfunball on September 07, 2010, 07:24:06 PM

Thanks, I did read that. I'm just wondering how you've determined that it is dry, as multiple windings of cotton covered wire would seem to have the ability to trap the moisture. Especially when encased by a secondary of enamel coated secondary coil.

Hi Happy,

Maybe I can help you out here. The lasersaber variation of the NS coil has no secondary winding. The entire build is with iron and copper.

But I think Laser has gone to some trouble now to assure us all that there's probably some moisture in the coil notwithstanding only one dip in a saline solution some 70 or so days ago. The surface is hard dried - and the iron is rusted. But the rusting seems to have 'peaked' or halted - presumably therefore confined to the surface of the wire.

Hope that helps and hopefully I've got it right. Else please speak up.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Omnibus · « **Reply #169 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:43:58 PM »

How can an incompetent person hope to have helped? That's impossible. Please try plastic-covered wire (every RadioShack carries such) instead of cotton-covered and then report back if you measured any voltage. That's the only guarrantee the two metals are insulated.

happyfunball · « **Reply #170 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:58:04 PM »

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 07, 2010, 07:32:58 PM

Hi Happy,

Maybe I can help you out here. The lasersaber variation of the NS coil has no secondary winding. The entire build is with iron and copper.

But I think Laser has gone to some trouble now to assure us all that there's probably some moisture in the coil notwithstanding only one dip in a saline solution some 70 or so days ago. The surface is hard dried - and the iron is rusted. But the rusting seems to have 'peaked' or halted - presumably therefore confined to the surface of the wire.

Hope that helps and hopefully I've got it right. Else please speak up.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

I was watching the first coil videos, forgot this is different. I'm assuming this one was produced with the same way, with each turn wetted down, plus one additional submerging after it was completed to create a layer of rust? If so, I don't see any way to have determined that trapped internal moisture isn't powering it. The length of time it has run, though, is still impressive. Perhaps side drilling on the end caps could be used to determine moisture content.

Rosemary Ainslie · « **Reply #171 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:03:20 PM »

Quote from: happyfunball on September 07, 2010, 07:58:04 PM

I was watching the first coil videos, forgot this is different. I'm assuming this one was produced with the same way, with each turn wetted down, plus one additional submerging after it was completed to create a layer of rust? If so, I don't see any way to have determined that trapped internal moisture isn't powering it. The length of time it has run, though, is still impressive. Perhaps side drilling on the end caps could be used to determine moisture content.

Hi again - I'm not sure that it's relevant to our follow up tests. My objective is to do without the moisture entirely but realise that I'll probably manage this at the cost of a slower rotor turn. But if you look at some of the 'boosters' on those video clips - I'll try and find the link - then you'll see that there is no required dampening of the material as he's using a copper coil. But the question is still out there happyfunball. We none of us know and I think the idea is to let the existing demo just keep plodding on and test around it with follow up builds. It would be an awful shame to alter the existing one.

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

mscoffman · « **Reply #172 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:27:43 PM »

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 07, 2010, 07:32:58 PM

Hi Happy,

Maybe I can help you out here. The lasersaber variation of the NS coil has no secondary winding. The entire build is with iron and copper.

But I think Laser has gone to some trouble now to assure us all that there's probably some moisture in the coil notwithstanding only one dip in a saline solution some 70 or so days ago. The surface is hard dried - and the iron is rusted. But the rusting seems to have 'peaked' or halted - presumably therefore confined to the surface of the wire.

Hope that helps and hopefully I've got it right. Else please speak up.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

Dear Rosemary,

I assume that the iron rusting proceeds incrementally with the
availability of H2O from humidity, like when anhydrous alcohol
dilutes itself.

I'm much more interested in physical experiments, which is one
nice thing about science; After the personal attacks subside one
can go back to the lab and make actual physical progress towards
the creation of new knowledge.

:S:MarkSCoffman

flathunter · « **Reply #173 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:32:32 PM »

Quote from: Omnibus on September 07, 2010, 07:43:58 PM

How can an incompetent person hope to have helped? That's impossible. Please try plastic-covered wire (every RadioShack carries such) instead of cotton-covered and then report back if you measured any voltage. That's the only guarrantee the two metals are insulated.

Can YOU try?

If people spent less time talking and more time experimenting and thinking, free energy would have been developed before Christ. Get out there and prove your manhood in the free energy community by actually doing an experiment - it is, after all, part and parcel of the scientific method.

Think of it as a measure of your competence - You, Omnibus the wise, Omnibus the slayer of false OU claims, gets to demonstrate in the only way possible that he was right all along. I, for one, would respect you a lot more if you backed up your scepticism (and there is NOTHING wrong with scepticism) with experimental evidence on youtube.

Demanding that others do experiments to back up ones own theories demonstrates laziness and arrogance. Remember the old adage ''if you want something done properly, do it yourself''. - so come on - show us the NS coil is ''nothing special''

More than 70 days is a great result for any battery, OU or no OU. Well done lasersaber....keep going!

Rosemary Ainslie · « **Reply #174 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:48:28 PM »

Quote from: mscoffman on September 07, 2010, 08:27:43 PM

Dear Rosemary,

I assume that the iron rusting proceeds incrementally with the
availability of H2O from humidity, like when anhydrous alcohol
dilutes itself.

I'm much more interested in physical experiments, which is one
nice thing about science; After the personal attacks subside one
can go back to the lab and make actual physical progress towards
the creation of new knowledge.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Hi Mark - what a nice post. I agree entirely. I'm still a clutz with builds but - this time round I've got access to experts. So privileged.

And how nice to see everyone rally here. I agree. This is a really interesting effect.

I LOVE this forum and ALMOST all of it's members.

So much talent. It's blow away stuff.

Kindest and best,
Rosemary

void109 · « **Reply #175 on:** September 07, 2010, 09:10:42 PM »

Curious - have you or anyone else done the math to determine the exact amount of energy being produced (and has been produced)? I'm not exactly a physics pro and I'm not sure where I would start.

DreamThinkBuild · « **Reply #176 on:** September 07, 2010, 09:27:54 PM »

Hi Lasersaber,

Great work and thank you for taking the time to make videos of your progress. 30+ days running is just amazing. I wonder what would happen if you take the cloth covered copper and iron wire and wound it as a Rodin or Starship coil? NS+Rodin Coil = ? Stronger magnets could give it some more kick. So much to try.

@It's Just A Battery crowd,

If it is just a battery what would you rather have. A motor that runs off an AA battery for 3 hours or a NS coil that could run for 30+ days? I think I'll choose the latter.

A 12v, 110Amp hour marine battery will run a 100watt dc motor for only 5.5hours. Even if you ran a 1watt dc motor with the 12v battery would only be able to run it 550 hours which is about 23 days, that doesn't take into account losses through heating. In those 30 days you could wind enough backup NS coils to last you the rest of the year at a price lower than the cost of the battery.

flathunter · « **Reply #177 on:** September 07, 2010, 09:48:53 PM »

Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on September 07, 2010, 09:27:54 PM

@It's Just A Battery crowd,

If it is just a battery what would you rather have. A motor that runs off an AA battery for 3 hours or a NS coil that could run for 30+ days? I think I'll choose the latter.

Lets not forget the old ''zamboni pile'' in the oxford electric bell......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell

set up in 1840, still going strong

wonderful what you can do with a good battery....i really hope this one has some self susaining properties when buried.

powercat · « **Reply #178 on:** September 07, 2010, 11:04:13 PM »

Hi flathunter
Great link, Wow it has been running 170 years, now lasersaber has a target

Quote from Wikipedia
Probably the most interesting part of the bell is the pair of dry piles. Nobody is certain what they are composed of, but it is known that they have been coated with molten sulphur to prevent effects from atmospheric moisture and it is thought that they may be Zamboni piles.
End quote
cat

dllabarre · « **Reply #179 on:** September 08, 2010, 12:30:48 AM »

LaserSaber

What size carbon rod did you use for the air battery?
Was it solid carbon or carbon fiber?

What size magnesium ribbon also?

Thanks
DonL

News:

User Menu

Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months! (Read 188961 times)

lasersaber

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Omnibus

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont

happyfunball

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Rosemary Ainslie

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Omnibus

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont

happyfunball

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

Rosemary Ainslie

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

mscoffman

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

flathunter

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont

Rosemary Ainslie

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

void109

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

DreamThinkBuild

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

flathunter

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

powercat

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!

dllabarre

Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!