It doesn't matter what the guy stated or didn't state. What matters is the reality of the claim in the title of this thread. The shown device isn't a self-runner because the motor is driven by a galvanic cell. What's potentially interesting is @pirate88179's work but there's more to be understood about it.

Also, like I said, what I've done in the OU field is irrelevant here because this thread is about something else.

It only matters to someone who insists on being extremely immature. He clearly stated it is NOT OU. Drop it already.

If it's not OU as he claims it, why bother? That guy has no clue to deserve citing what he says. Drop it.

You don't like the way he worded the thread, yet he makes it clear he is not claiming OU. Really shabby jealousy.

I have watched all videos now and I also think that the moisture persists for a long time within the different layers of the coil. It remembers when I put once copper and iron into box with wet sand and could measure some voltage for some months time. And exactly this seems to happen in here, which is nothing unusal I'm afraid. The solution with salt water will most likely only dry out on the outside, but not on the inside completely. As powerthecat already mentioned, it is difficult enough to remove moisture from the inside of a transformer. With this kind of NS coil it's even more diffcult.

Also I agree with omnibus that you need to enclose the device in a faraday cage. Make sure you are not in the near of an electrical distribution board. I experienced myself that I could pickup a decent amount of voltage and current by just having a long cable next to some board, as well as in a distance of 1-2m. Since you have quite along cable (coil) this device will act as an antenna and pickup electromagnetic waves very easily! This is most likely the reason why it even works in a dry state.

Of course a faraday cage will also dismiss natural electromagnetic waves, but you'd need to go into the desert to prove the influences. I agree though that this device is interesting, but all in all it seems to be a galvanic cell only (wet state), or anj EMF pickup antenna (dry state). 

If it is possible to gain enough power for many month or even a year just by using this device and putting it into a box so that it is shielded from wind, I could imagine further use though. For now the "motor" however seems to be quite weak. Even a small flat battery cell has more power than this big device as can be seen in one of "lidmotors" replications. Therefore it needs lots of coils 

Trivialities cannot invoke jealousy. This is a useless thread and that should be stated clearly. I wish @pirate88179 opens a thread to discuss his experiments with the coil, especially if he decides to continue them. The only use of this thread would be if @pirate88179 decides to post here his results instead of owning of new thread, to keep everything in one place.

This 'triviality' does.

There is someone attacking this thread but it is very clear by his own words that what he wants is a free meal.

Where's the free meal, buddy? There's not even a meal yet.

Omni:

Please to not refer to my ham and egg experiments with the NS coil as possibly significant.  Lasersaber has long past anything I have done do date with this device...and by far.

Also, not to get into semantics here but, he does not claim OU.  He has said so both here and in his videos.  The topic title proclaiming self-running is accurate in my opinion as, that appears to be exactly what it is doing.  The truth is, or at least I suspect this to be the truth, Lasersaber does not know how long this thing will run.  We, thanks to him, are learning this along with him.

Me?  I would have been thrilled if I built a similar device and it turned for 8 hours.  This man has one running for over a month and no one, including him, knows how long it will go.

I would submit that this is free energy along the same lines as solar power.  Not OU, at least not so far.  I have no problems with the way Lasersaber has presented his experiments here at all.  On the contrary, I applaud him for doing these experiments and sharing with everyone here.

With all due respect Ominbus, why not build a replication yourself?  With your background, you may see something here that has been missed, as you did with the Steorn device.  I mean, what if this spins for 5 years?  Is that not important?  Plus, please remember that his coil is not even in the ground which opens up another entire series of possibilities.

Just food for thought.

Bill

How come a motor powered by a galvanic cell be a self-runner? This is not semantics. If this is not understood (that a galvanic cell powered device is not a self-runner) why are we all here? Just to supply the zealous activists with more arguments that the OU community are a bunch of morons, is that it? Please don's support incompetence. Aggressive amateurs are not to be encouraged, especially when dealing with topics in the sensitive territory of research we are in.

As for your coil, I will not do it because I don't believe two metals just running parallel to each other and not in contact can be a power source. You have to show me that that's the case. It's up to you to prove it and if you do that it would be really substantial. Someone showing a motor powered by a battery is not substantial at all. It cannot even be compared to the free energy from sun and wind. That's how unimportant and trivial that is. Please check again your coil and make sure it isn't a galvanic cell and also that it isn't picking up energy from a nearby source of electromagnetic waves (you may recall we had several years ago such case and initially it caused quite a stir in this forum only to be found that it is some trivial antennae type of a device).

It's high time to start distinguishing what is and what isn't important in all these claims so that less time and effort is wasted in dead ends and some real progress be made.

Grow up Omnibus.

Stop cluttering the thread with nonsense.