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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 188957 times)

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #225 on: September 12, 2010, 07:34:17 AM »
Quote from: Ted Ewert on September 12, 2010, 07:21:13 AM
Mix the filings with epoxy in a thick paste and fill the pipe up. That will work fine as a core.
You can also use a long bolt for the core. Any type of soft (mild) steel will do. Just wrap it real good with electrical tape before you start to wind.

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Hi Ted.  Thanks for this.  And really nice to see you around. The 'bolt' is a really good idea.  I think I'll try both as I might have a suitable one.

If the pipe is already covered with something - which it is - wouldn't that be enough?  Or is insulation still required?  I guess I'd need to find out what it's coated with first.  I'm just not sure how 'proximate' the metals need to be.  This is an entirely new departure from my usual studies.  I certainly intend taking off the coating off the copper.  If this is a no no - please advise.

Kindest as ever,
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #226 on: September 12, 2010, 08:07:38 AM »
Guys - this is the best I could do to explain the proposed layout of the pipe against the rotor.  I'll see if it downloads and amend or explain as required.

OK.  I sort of took.  the labels are Coil - magnets postitioned as required - reed switch - possible boosters for the coil.

Hope that's self explanatory.  The neat thing is that I can position magnets on that rotor in just about any position - up to and including covering the entire circle.  The down side is that I can only fit ferrite magnets and they may not be strong enough.  But it'll be interesting. 

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Rosemary

edited BTW - The idea is to see if the rotation needs to be generated with the rotor at 90 degrees or 180 degrees to the coil.  With this rig I can adjust that positioning.  Also.  I want to find out if a solid line of magnets adds or substracts from the 'spin'.  Then too - I want to see if the secondary will assist if it's partially or completely wound with copper or copper and iron or iron - or any variation thereof.  At least there may be a few more answers here - that's if it works at all.  LOL
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #227 on: September 12, 2010, 08:25:58 AM »
@ All:

Just remember that, from what we have learned on the NS and JT topics that "soft" iron is not related to its hardness.  It speaks to it's permeability or the ability to be magnetized one moment, and then not the next.

For the JT topic, we decided to go with cores that had very high permeability and these seemed to work very well.

I just wanted to point this out.

Bill
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Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #228 on: September 12, 2010, 08:29:59 AM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 12, 2010, 08:25:58 AM
@ All:

Just remember that, from what we have learned on the NS and JT topics that "soft" iron is not related to its hardness.  It speaks to it's permeability or the ability to be magnetized one moment, and then not the next.

For the JT topic, we decided to go with cores that had very high permeability and these seemed to work very well.

I just wanted to point this out.

Bill

Hi Bill.  Thanks for the reminder.  I'm hoping that what I've got here is reasonably 'magnetisable' - if that's the concern - as we've tested it on Dave Lambright's rig.  Is that epoxy filing mix likely to work? Or will it be too weak to do what's required? 

And PLEASE could you give advice as to the proposed stripping of the copper to leave the thread bare?  Is this wise?  Or should I leave it with it's coating?

BTW What is it coated with?  It seems to be a kind of plastic?

Kindest as ever,
Rosie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #229 on: September 12, 2010, 08:35:38 AM »
Rose:

I call it plastic because the mag wire I bought said it had a polyurethane coating.  Now, Don says his mag wire has enamel coating, which is probably true.  As far as Ominbus's questions, no matter the coating, this "should not work" unless it is bare wire.  But, it does.

As I have said before from my personal experiments and studies,  I believe there is a galvanic component to this BUT, I also believe there is something more. What that is I can't really say but from everyone's experiments I am confident in my opinion here.

The more folks working with this and posting their results, the more we will all learn what is, and what is not.

Bill
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #230 on: September 12, 2010, 08:40:09 AM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 12, 2010, 08:35:38 AM
Rose:

I call it plastic because the mag wire I bought said it had a polyurethane coating.  Now, Don says his mag wire has enamel coating, which is probably true.  As far as Ominbus's questions, no matter the coating, this "should not work" unless it is bare wire.  But, it does.

As I have said before from my personal experiments and studies,  I believe there is a galvanic component to this BUT, I also believe there is something more. What that is I can't really say but from everyone's experiments I am confident in my opinion here.

The more folks working with this and posting their results, the more we will all learn what is, and what is not.

Bill
ta muchly Pirate.  I'll get back here later today.  Hopefully you'll be around.  Meanwhile I'll give this some thought.

Regards,
Rosie
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #231 on: September 12, 2010, 09:16:31 AM »
@Pirate88179,

I really don't believe that insulated wires wound in a coil work when placed in a Faraday cage. Have you tried it yourself or you're relying on what someone else says? I trust you because you're a good an fair man but, remember, sometimes we may be somewhat gullible. This is a serious question and it shouldn't be taken over by amateurs and incompetent enthusiasts.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #232 on: September 12, 2010, 11:19:42 AM »
@ Omnibus:

The only reason for a Farady cage, correct me if I am wrong, is to eliminate outside RF from TV, Radio, etc.

I have to say that I have not done this BUT, back in Stubblefield's day, there were no such thing.  Maybe this is why I have never checked this.

I do know from a HAM friend of mine that we are bombarded with tons of RF from many different sources.  Yes, this could be a power source.

My personal opinion is that, even if this were the power source, the local radio/tv station would not have to increase their output just because I were lighting things from it.

I am a big proponent of free energy.  I do not care where this energy comes from as long as I can do what I want to with it.  This is not to be confused with OU, but, as I have seen with my earth batteries and JT circuits, I can make a lot of light for free.

Not OU but, free to me.

Bill
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #233 on: September 12, 2010, 01:29:49 PM »
@Pirate88179,

Have no doubt that if the energy in the coil Is from tapping into some of. The fields around such as the one emitted from the local radio station, that would be stealing energy from that radio station. It is similar to those devices (say, the ones some are making in Ukraine) which steal energy from the high power lines when placed in close proximity to these lines. Therefore, it isn't at all true that:

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My personal opinion is that, even if this were the power source, the local radio/tv station would not have to increase their output just because I were lighting things from it.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #234 on: September 12, 2010, 02:13:20 PM »
Is it this what you mean?
Open the file on windows paint and correct it as you want it.

Jesus
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #235 on: September 12, 2010, 02:36:09 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on September 12, 2010, 01:29:49 PM
@Pirate88179,

Have no doubt that if the energy in the coil Is from tapping into some of. The fields around such as the one emitted from the local radio station, that would be stealing energy from that radio station. It is similar to those devices (say, the ones some are making in Ukraine) which steal energy from the high power lines when placed in close proximity to these lines. Therefore, it isn't at all true that:
IF these devices are being powered by rf it would NOT be stealing... by that logic listening to the radio is stealing...
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #236 on: September 12, 2010, 02:47:53 PM »
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 12, 2010, 02:36:09 PM
IF these devices are being powered by rf it would NOT be stealing... by that logic listening to the radio is stealing...

Listening to the radio would be stealing if it isn't subsidized. Listening to radio is similar to reading the free newspapers one finds in the streets. The publishers release them free because they have deals with advertisers and this is how pedestrians who pick these papers and read them benefit from the deal. Someone pays for that, though.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #237 on: September 12, 2010, 03:02:38 PM »
Quote from: Omnibus on September 12, 2010, 02:47:53 PM
Listening to the radio would be stealing if it isn't subsidized. Listening to radio is similar to reading the free newspapers one finds in the streets. The publishers release them free because they have deals with advertisers and this is how pedestrians who pick these papers and read them benefit from the deal. Someone pays for that, though.
i see. so your opinion is that if station WXYZ sets up a a "pay" radio station at FM 103.3 and told people not to tune in there unless they've paid, then station WXYZ could take legal action...  ::)
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #238 on: September 12, 2010, 03:11:01 PM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 12, 2010, 11:19:42 AM
we are bombarded with tons of RF from many different sources [...] I do not care where this energy comes from [...] I can make a lot of light for free.

We've had this kind of "free" energy already from Coler and Roy Meyers a century ago... It's not something to rely on  ::)

I also urge again, that if the device proposed in this topic works without water, then a faraday cage test *must* be done, otherwise it's a waste of time and only clamping on a dream.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #239 on: September 12, 2010, 03:16:29 PM »
Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 03:11:01 PM
We've had this kind of "free" energy already from Coler and Roy Meyers a century ago... It's not something to rely on  ::)
and we've had this kind of 'advice' for almost as long, maybe even longer... it's not something to rely on. ;) even ONE led in complete darkness is alot of light. if you were in complete darkness and your neighbor had some led's running off a NS coil, i wonder if you wouldn't be over at your neighbors, relying on it...

Quote from: gauschor on September 12, 2010, 03:11:01 PM
I also urge again, that if the device proposed in this topic works without water, then a faraday cage test *must* be done, otherwise it's a waste of time and only clamping on a dream.
it is a simple experiment... please let us know how your test turns out.
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