don't be ridiculous... maybe you haven't realized it yet, but nobody really wants to do your test for you because your 'concerns' are obviously not their concerns. if you are SO concerned about it then wind a coil, toss it in your faraday cage and then let us know the results. furthermore, it is not his 'job' and he has never claimed 'overunity'. the only lame thing here (other than omnibus...) is you telling others what is 'required' of them.

it is obviously interesting to some as there already ARE replications and investigations. so it doesn't interest you, no one cares... mint?

don't be ridiculous... maybe you haven't realized it yet, but nobody really wants to do your test for you because your 'concerns' are obviously not their concerns. if you are SO concerned about it then wind a coil, toss it in your faraday cage and then let us know the results. furthermore, it is not his 'job' and he has never claimed 'overunity'. the only lame thing here (other than omnibus...) is you telling others what is 'required' of them.

it is obviously interesting to some as there already ARE replications and investigations. so it doesn't interest you, no one cares... mint?

Omnibus - you have accused lasersaber of a neurotic reach at self glorification in posting his rig - in the first instance.  Then you charged through each page loudly proclaiming to all and sundry that he's not only NOT got OU but he has no right to even post on this thread and possibly not even on this forum.  You have challenged my own competence on just about each page of this thread and certainly all over my own thread.  And you have even now taken the attack to Wilby and to other forum members.  You've demanded that Bill take over the subject here and loudly and rather rudely required that our interest in Lasersaber's device be DROPPED.

You based your complaints on the fact that the Nathan Stubblefield battery is simply a child's example of a battery doing what a battery does best - which is to lose its energy.  But careful analysis of the evidence shows that this assumption is INCORRECT.  Not only do you not reference that analysis but you continue with your demands that my own contributions be ignored and then state that anyone who supports this device is DELUDED into thinking that there are any advantages. 

We know your opinion.  But it seems that your desire to be heard is such that you are deliberately 'killing' this thread - in the interests of putting this subject to a close. If you stated your opinion once then that would be understandable - and no-one could reasonably object.  But you state it repeatedly - on every page and after every post.  And there is no well considered argument put forward to support your opinion.  There is no reach at an explanation.  And when your opinions are proven to be fallacious - you continue with them anyway.  On every page - as mentioned.  That's a well known troll technique.  The intention is to reach a level of confrontation that the subject is then developed on a 'personal level' and the thread is then locked.  I put it to you that this is your motive.  I get it that you think we're all rather intellectually limited.  But we all only need to know of your attitude JUST ONCE.  It's enough for even such as I to learn what is your opinion.  But then go away.  That would be appropriate.  But it seems that there is an overriding need to kill this subject entirely.  For some reason we may not research it.  Why is that?  What is your actual motive?  Have you invested in Steorne's licensing that you need to keep his and only his technology alive?  And if your general concerns are for the purity of research then why are you not anxious to clean up those more obviously absurd topics on this forum?  Why don't you charge through all the threads with this copious evidence of your general intolerance that your concerns here can be considered valid?  Again.  Why? Why do you tolerate all and sundry but are entirely unable to tolerate this thread topic?  I put it to you again - that you have a vested interest in killing off this technology.  And I suspect that it is self serving and I suspect that it's being done under the PRETENSE of protecting all and sundry against my own input or that input from any like minded amongst our members.  That's highly suspicious.  Indeed.  Your motives here are highly suspicious.

If this topic had been left in your capable hands you would have assured us all that there is nothing in the galvanic effect and that there is no value in lasersaber's device.  The interest would have died.  And then you would have been happy.  Unfortunately you DID NOT succeed.  Clearly lasersaber's device is NOT a typical battery.  And the effects are clearly OU.  If you disagree then that is your right.  It is NOT your right to dominate the discussion on this your opinion or - indeed - these your opinions.  We know them now.  We do NOT need to be reminded on each and every post made here.  Frankly it is my opinion that you are in gross breach of forum etiquette and good manners and I would strongly recommend that - if you wish to remain plausible - that you, at its least, learn to be courteous - and respect a member's requirement to post their technologies as they - and NOT as YOU - require.

Rosemary

5.1 defame, abuse, harass, stalk, threaten or otherwise violate the rights of other users or any third parties;

On the other side. People who are true seekers and try hard to achieve the OU goal make me feel like this:

Omnibus - you have accused lasersaber of a neurotic reach at self glorification in posting his rig - in the first instance.  Then you charged through each page loudly proclaiming to all and sundry that he's not only NOT got OU but he has no right to even post on this thread and possibly not even on this forum.  You have challenged my own competence on just about each page of this thread and certainly all over my own thread.  And you have even now taken the attack to Wilby and to other forum members.  You've demanded that Bill take over the subject here and loudly and rather rudely required that our interest in Lasersaber's device be DROPPED.

You based your complaints on the fact that the Nathan Stubblefield battery is simply a child's example of a battery doing what a battery does best - which is to lose its energy.  But careful analysis of the evidence shows that this assumption is INCORRECT.  Not only do you not reference that analysis but you continue with your demands that my own contributions be ignored and then state that anyone who supports this device is DELUDED into thinking that there are any advantages. 

We know your opinion.  But it seems that your desire to be heard is such that you are deliberately 'killing' this thread - in the interests of putting this subject to a close. If you stated your opinion once then that would be understandable - and no-one could reasonably object.  But you state it repeatedly - on every page and after every post.  And there is no well considered argument put forward to support your opinion.  There is no reach at an explanation.  And when your opinions are proven to be fallacious - you continue with them anyway.  On every page - as mentioned.  That's a well known troll technique.  The intention is to reach a level of confrontation that the subject is then developed on a 'personal level' and the thread is then locked.  I put it to you that this is your motive.  I get it that you think we're all rather intellectually limited.  But we all only need to know of your attitude JUST ONCE.  It's enough for even such as I to learn what is your opinion.  But then go away.  That would be appropriate.  But it seems that there is an overriding need to kill this subject entirely.  For some reason we may not research it.  Why is that?  What is your actual motive?  Have you invested in Steorne's licensing that you need to keep his and only his technology alive?  And if your general concerns are for the purity of research then why are you not anxious to clean up those more obviously absurd topics on this forum?  Why don't you charge through all the threads with this copious evidence of your general intolerance that your concerns here can be considered valid?  Again.  Why? Why do you tolerate all and sundry but are entirely unable to tolerate this thread topic?  I put it to you again - that you have a vested interest in killing off this technology.  And I suspect that it is self serving and I suspect that it's being done under the PRETENSE of protecting all and sundry against my own input or that input from any like minded amongst our members.  That's highly suspicious.  Indeed.  Your motives here are highly suspicious.

If this topic had been left in your capable hands you would have assured us all that there is nothing in the galvanic effect and that there is no value in lasersaber's device.  The interest would have died.  And then you would have been happy.  Unfortunately you DID NOT succeed.  Clearly lasersaber's device is NOT a typical battery.  And the effects are clearly OU.  If you disagree then that is your right.  It is NOT your right to dominate the discussion on this your opinion or - indeed - these your opinions.  We know them now.  We do NOT need to be reminded on each and every post made here.  Frankly it is my opinion that you are in gross breach of forum etiquette and good manners and I would strongly recommend that - if you wish to remain plausible - that you, at its least, learn to be courteous - and respect a member's requirement to post their technologies as they - and NOT as YOU - require.

Rosemary