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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 189022 times)

IotaYodi

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #345 on: September 14, 2010, 06:14:35 PM »
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Initial observation is "more Cotton means more voltage".
Dielectric charge is still my view on this. You changed the dielectric properties from the enameled wire to steel,to a dielectric of bare copper to cotton. The dielectric of the enameled wire to plain steel shouldn't give much charge as the charge itself is probably moving along with the current on the wire. I think you will find it close to the same with bare copper and bare steel. Using cotton the charge builds up in it. Once the charge builds up to its max where the cotton cant hold anymore,then any incoming charge is pushing it out or discharging it like a cap. That would mean there would have to be a polarity reversal in the copper so charge could flow like any pulsed dc current in a polarized cap.. The higher the incoming flow the quicker the charge buildup. Im just wondering if the radiant part of the pulsed dc is helping the charge.

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The compass movement is a lot stronger after wetting this coil then before but only on one end of the coil.  The end of the coil where my windings end.  South end.  But a little off center of the coil like where LaserSaber positions his rotor.
Heres what I see. The poles of any magnet are stronger at the edges than the center. Thats fact. The wet cotton coil had more voltage,current increasing the magnetic field. The compass should be more attracted to the south end. The north end would repel it.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #346 on: September 14, 2010, 06:19:16 PM »
@Rosemary Ainslie

I posted the link to the live video stream back on page one.  Here it is again: http://www.lasersaber.com/public/WebCam/ActiveX1.html

It's been running for 83 days now.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #347 on: September 14, 2010, 07:24:48 PM »
And the graviton like the quark and even the 'dark particle' are all theoretically required - never observed. 

I thought we observed the bits & pieces (quarks) of protons during high energy collisions in particle accelerators.  Looking at the LHC site at http://lhcb-public.web.cern.ch/lhcb-public/ it seems they take snapshots of these beasts all the time.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #348 on: September 14, 2010, 08:22:11 PM »
@Rosemary Ainslie

I posted the link to the live video stream back on page one.  Here it is again: http://www.lasersaber.com/public/WebCam/ActiveX1.html

It's been running for 83 days now.

FANTSTIC STUFF Laser. 
Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #349 on: September 14, 2010, 08:51:25 PM »
I thought we observed the bits & pieces (quarks) of protons during high energy collisions in particle accelerators.  Looking at the LHC site at http://lhcb-public.web.cern.ch/lhcb-public/ it seems they take snapshots of these beasts all the time.

Not entirely sure about this void.  My only knowledge about particles is from the Dancing Wu Li Masters (Zukov) and I've actually never heard about the beautiful atom.  It still seems to be a baryon of sorts and I'm just not how it can be classified an atom unless it has at least one proton in it's nucleus.  My understanding of this is that the pions enable the an exchange between the quarks and and the gluons in the proton.  And I'm not sure that the quark has ever been detected - only theorised.  But the fact is that these amazing experts can distinguish particles that literally last for - in one example 0.8 quintillionth of a second (eta).  It's an impossibly small slice of time - in my view.  And in view of their transitoriness (is that even a word?) I'm inclined to believe that these nuances as they're termed - are simply infinite in variety.  What intrigues me here - more than anything - is that they seem to come from nowhere and disappear into nothing.  They've never balanced conservation of energy on the particle level.  Only conservation of charge.  Zukov describes the interactions as throwing an apple at an orange and finding oneself with a fruit salad including grapes, pineapples, qunces, plums - and on and on. 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #350 on: September 14, 2010, 11:00:06 PM »

It's still sitting there and I will test it again when I get home.

DonL

The coil voltage is down to 390mV from .790V over the past 8 hours of sitting here drying out.  Still shows strong magnetic affects using a compass.

DonL

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #351 on: September 14, 2010, 11:47:22 PM »
I think the observations of lensing indicate that a quantum theory of gravity, based on gravitons interacting with every particle including individual photons, cannot be correct. For graviton interaction to be correct, a photon would have to follow a polygonal path as it passes a massive body, each segment of the polygon being, perhaps, of planck length.

GB

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #352 on: September 15, 2010, 12:16:50 AM »
I think the observations of lensing indicate that a quantum theory of gravity, based on gravitons interacting with every particle including individual photons, cannot be correct. For graviton interaction to be correct, a photon would have to follow a polygonal path as it passes a massive body, each segment of the polygon being, perhaps, of planck length.

GB

Hi GB.  Are you talking about gravitational lensing?  I believe they used this to prove the existence of dark matter.  I know that this has been elevated to a full blown thesis courtesy this proof.  But notwithstanding it's still not widely accepted by mainstream.  I think they're trying to find the particle responsible for this.  They're using germanium pucks to detect this particle - these planted deep underground - in disused mines.  And after a 10 year search Caltech have come up with zilch.  But I believe the astrophysicists are looking for a meson.  Something big but so 'non standard' - so off the wall - that it actually needs to be invisible to light.  To me that makes absolutely no sense.  The graviton is like the quark.  If they find it then I think they'll be able to explain much about gravity.  But the simple fact is that gravity itself, like you say, does NOT fit in with quantum nor classical requirements.  It's the proof that mainstream still do not have all the answers.  Which is a good thing.  It keeps them modest.  Personally I think string theorists have aced it.  But I object to the proposal that there's a 'static' scaffold like stucture that they seem to need.  I'd personally prefer to see it moving and energetic.  LOL.

All very interesting.  In any event - I'm not sure what Laser is showing us here.  I'm hoping that it's proof of dark energy - personally.  And I'm proposing that this is located in the material of bound amalgams.  But there again.  That's just my take.  Richard Ellis et al - will still not be able to find it - even in the unlikely event that I'm right.  This because it's too fast and too small for light to EVER find it.  Which means that the aether energies may forever be out of reach of tangible evidence except in those experiments where it can be proven to exceed unity.  And then we can probably only point to the aether - with our fingers crossed so to speak.  What's needed is this test on higher wattages with some conclusive proof as to whether we've got electrolytic actions here or whether it's purely inductive - which is what I'm hoping.

I intend putting a cling wrap covering over each winding to ensure that it stays dry or dry'ish.  This because Don's experiments and Laser's for that matter - point to the fact that there's still that healthy response to magnetic fields - dry or wet.

Regards,
Rosemary

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #353 on: September 15, 2010, 12:42:29 AM »
So far I believe the bare copper has to be insulated from the bare iron (steel).
So you'd have to add an insulation between the washers.

Hi DonL
Yes I was thinking about that and also connecting the washers to gather,sorry I didn't give any details in my original post.

Many thanks for keeping us all updated on your results so far, are you intending to use a magnet rotor in your tests ?
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #354 on: September 15, 2010, 01:02:28 AM »
lasersaber – good of you to continue to show your work for those that find it of interest.

However, your latest approach is basically replacing your galvanic ‘air battery’ for a galvanic NS coil.
And you are now utilizing the magnetism of the coil rather than the electrical output of the air battery.

As you state in your “48 days” video:
"I'm sure there's obviously some level of moisture there, but it's nothing to speak of"

Obviously, there is a massive difference between *no* moisture and *low* moisture.
The extremely low output is a direct result of the very low moisture.
The materials are being consumed at a very low rate as a result of the low humidity.
So yes, you should expect to generate a very small output for a very long time until the materials are consumed.

It is very difficult to determine the output as you provide little data.
In fact, you even say you’ve quit using a multi-meter and are concentrating on just getting your ‘motor’ to spin. ?
Magnetism and electricity are just opposite sides of the same coin, so electrical (watts) output is relative to the magnetic field created in a coil.
Concrete output data is much more useful.
The output required to turn your rotor is very tiny.
You did in passing say “less than ¼ volt” then updated that with:
50mV x 50mA = 0.0025 watts
So you need 400 of your large coils to produce 1 watt.
24,000 coils to light (1) 60 watt light bulb.
That equals a lot of $, space, weight and materials to light 1 bulb!

It’s a matter of practicality:
1)   $/kWh
2)   Wh/kg

I posted approximate figures in your air battery thread.
( http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9276.msg245413#msg245413 )
The numbers for your current project are even more impractical.



I trust you all realise FULLY that my training in all matters scientific is somewhat sparse.

You said it, not me.....but your enthusiasm is notable.

WilbyInebriated

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #355 on: September 15, 2010, 01:14:28 AM »
50mV x 50mA = 0.0025 watts
So you need 400 of your large coils to produce 1 watt.
24,000 coils to light (1) 60 watt light bulb.
That equals a lot of $, space, weight and materials to light 1 bulb!
you think this is intended to light 60watt lightbulbs?  ::)
what is 'painfully obvious', is that you don't have a clue... lasersaber is not trying to light up 60watt incandescent bulbs nor should he be. that would be similar to you trying to light up a 60watt bulb with a dead AA battery. it doesn't make sense, just like your comment.

user2718218 (milehigh) has demonstrated his penchant for pedantism numerous times in numerous places. as far as his advice, i wouldn't bother with it... this reminds me of the joule thief thread where guys that think you know it all (like yourself and user2718218) go off on some tangent (in an attempt to drag everyone, including the experimenters, off into never never land with you) without ever understanding the intent of original experiment or device, like suggesting how many devices will be necessary to light a 60watt bulb. ::)

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #356 on: September 15, 2010, 01:21:51 AM »
you think this is intended to light 60watts lightbulbs?  ::)

I don't see a pratical application for this device due to the issues I presented.

What practical application do you envision for a device of this cost, size, and weight with negligible output?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #357 on: September 15, 2010, 01:25:02 AM »
@dllabarre: You have a scope? I'll show you mine if you show me yours.  ;D

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #358 on: September 15, 2010, 01:28:11 AM »
I don't see a pratical application for this device due to the issues I presented.

What practical application do you envision for a device of this cost, size, and weight with negligible output?
then you're not very imaginative nor creative...

your 60watt bulb suggestion is nothing more than a strawman. whether or not the device can light a 60watt bulb is irrelevant. whether or not the device is practical is irrelevant. capiche?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!
« Reply #359 on: September 15, 2010, 01:41:58 AM »
I decided to try building one of these. I'm using a hollow acrylic tube for the core so I can try different materials in there.
I got a few layers put on today. I wound one row of steel, then put a layer of cotton down. Then I wound a row of copper. I left enough space between the loops to keep them insulated from one another, and to have a space for the next winding to fit into.
Each row is a separate strand and I just connect them at the ends. This makes it much easier to wind.
I think in the end the result will be satisfactory since the copper will be right next to the steel, separated by a layer of cotton and all the layers will be in series.
I haven't taken any measurements yet except to check for shorts. I should have it done by tomorrow and then we'll see if it works.

Cheers,

Ted