Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system ! (Read 2231920 times)

ltseung888 · « **Reply #3030 on:** March 25, 2015, 11:58:18 PM »

Theory of the Flying Saucer.

If one has infinite energy, one can generate pulsed circular motion. One can control the direction of the centrifugal force and thus fly in any direction.

Changing direction - even reversing direction is easy with centrifugal force.

There is no need for air to use aerodynamic forces.

Once a Nation masters lead-out energy, it will master the flying saucer.

The rumor that both USA and China already possess the Flying Saucer has theoretical grounds.

Will the Governments try to keep the top secret? Will they pay the debunkers...

Divine wine flows... The World will drop the Military Destructive Applications and go for peaceful Applications...

Sow seeds...

Lawrence Tseung
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ltseung888 · « **Reply #3031 on:** March 26, 2015, 01:14:44 PM »

Some old experiments by Forever Yuen in 2008 on Centrifugal Force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnxDJ29iL_0

Milkovic 2SO uses centrifugal force... Chan Wheel uses it better. Skinner Device leads-out more energy.

Pulse Wheels can produce large centrifugal force... They not only lead-out energy but also serve as heart of the Flying Saucer.

Flying technologies:
1. Aerodynamic forces - Bernoulli's equation - pressure on the side smaller when fluid moves faster.
2. Rocket principle - action and reaction.
3. Flying Saucer - controlled, pulsed Centrifugal Force - no need for air; no need to push out material...

Lawrence Tseung
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Paul-R · « **Reply #3032 on:** March 26, 2015, 04:40:40 PM »

All this talk of flywheels reminds me of Eric Lathwaite. Also, a very interesting small square plywood board. It had motors with flywheels mounted north, south east and west, all rotating as one might imagine. The entire board is then forced to rotate and an upward thrust is a generated.

No fancy physics here, just processional forces adding up coherently. But it is an idea which deserves more development.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #3033 on:** March 26, 2015, 09:57:10 PM »

Quote from: webby1 on March 26, 2015, 03:21:43 PM

Actually Lawrence one would need to control inertia.

You can not make a change in direction at speed without destroying the occupants unless you can find, manipulate and control an inertial field. If and when such is found then flight is rather simple and nothing else would be needed except for maybe a vessel to contain an atmosphere.

Forget human flight for now. Just focus on Centrifugal Force leading-out energy and capable of moving around in space.

Should USA and China disclose the "top secret" to benefit humanity now? There is no stopping any Nation pouring resources on such research. The information in this website and this thread will be studied with scientific vigor.

Lawrence
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ltseung888 · « **Reply #3034 on:** March 26, 2015, 10:08:18 PM »

Quote from: Paul-R on March 26, 2015, 04:40:40 PM

All this talk of flywheels reminds me of Eric Lathwaite. Also, a very interesting small square plywood board. It had motors with flywheels mounted north, south east and west, all rotating as one might imagine. The entire board is then forced to rotate and an upward thrust is a generated.

No fancy physics here, just processional forces adding up coherently. But it is an idea which deserves more development.

I believe you are talking about information covered in:
http://www.overunity.com/5570/has-somebody-used-eric-laithwaite-s-device/#.VRVVGOlFBjo

In there, overunity energy was mentioned as well as flying.

Since this thread has already got much following, I shall continue the discussion here.

The power of Internet is that it can bring apparently unrelated pieces of information together...

More on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI_HFnNTfyU

Lawrence Tseung
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memoryman · « **Reply #3035 on:** March 26, 2015, 10:21:01 PM »

one of the dangers of the internet is that it can make totally unrelated pieces of information APPEAR to be related.
You do understand, Lawrence, that centrifugal force is not a real force, but apparent or imaginary; centripetal force IS real.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #3036 on:** March 27, 2015, 01:47:42 AM »

Quote from: memoryman on March 26, 2015, 10:21:01 PM

one of the dangers of the internet is that it can make totally unrelated pieces of information APPEAR to be related.
You do understand, Lawrence, that centrifugal force is not a real force, but apparent or imaginary; centripetal force IS real.

Actually, I learned it as centripetal acceleration and not force. Of course, my physics professor might have been an idiot. Some of them were back then, ha ha.

Bill

memoryman · « **Reply #3037 on:** March 27, 2015, 02:15:18 AM »

from Wikipedia (the ultimate source):
A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek") is a force that makes a body follow a curved path. Its direction is always orthogonal to the velocity of the body and towards the fixed point of the instantaneous center of curvature of the path.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #3038 on:** March 27, 2015, 04:36:38 AM »

Quote from: memoryman on March 27, 2015, 02:15:18 AM

from Wikipedia (the ultimate source):
A centripetal force (from Latin centrum "center" and petere "to seek") is a force that makes a body follow a curved path. Its direction is always orthogonal to the velocity of the body and towards the fixed point of the instantaneous center of curvature of the path.

With a radial acceleration toward the center of mass.

This is what I recall...but do not trust my memory.

Bill

ltseung888 · « **Reply #3039 on:** March 27, 2015, 12:09:25 PM »

Remember the sling in David and Goliath.

People know about circular motion and centrifugal force and the "deadly" effects then.

When an object is in circular motion, a force is needed to keep it in "orbit". Once this force is taken out, the object will fly off in the tangential direction. The sling is an example.

In a Flying Saucer, the force holding the circular moving "thing" may be magnetic or electromagnetic. It is simple to turn off the electromagnet - take out the force. The "thing" will fly off in the tangential direction.

There are many ways to skin the cat. But the outcome is - the object can fly without air and without ejecting matter. This third way of flying should be investigated further.

The bright minds in this forum can be more productive in coming up with different designs.

USA and Chinese Military may already be very advanced...

Lawrence Tseung
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ltseung888 · « **Reply #3040 on:** March 27, 2015, 12:34:31 PM »

Quote from: memoryman on March 26, 2015, 10:21:01 PM

one of the dangers of the internet is that it can make totally unrelated pieces of information APPEAR to be related.
You do understand, Lawrence, that centrifugal force is not a real force, but apparent or imaginary; centripetal force IS real.

Please - try to explain how Goliath was killed.

memoryman · « **Reply #3041 on:** March 27, 2015, 03:01:16 PM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 27, 2015, 12:34:31 PM

Please - try to explain how Goliath was killed.

That is an anecdotal story; I was not there.

ltseung888 · « **Reply #3042 on:** March 27, 2015, 09:28:46 PM »

Quote from: memoryman on March 27, 2015, 03:01:16 PM

That is an anecdotal story; I was not there.

It does not matter whether you were there. Either Google or youtube with the keyword Sling. Find out how the sling uses circular motion and centrifugal force to give a piece of stone the high velocity.

I propose that such a force can be used as heart of the Flying Saucer. (I do not want to argue on the exact meaning of the terms of centripetal and centrifugal force.)

I use the term Centrifugal force loosely. The Milkovic 2SO uses centrifugal force of the swinging pendulum to increase the moment to lift the Weight. Understanding this centrifugal force will lead to the understanding of lead-out energy and the Skinner device. It will confirm the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier using properly Unbalanced Cylinders. QMOGEN is theoretical certainty.

Now I propose the same line of thought will lead us to the understanding of the Flying Saucer.

The Bright Students will come up with the many possible designs... Nations should and will pour in resources on such research.

USA and China Military must reconsider how to deal with such "state secrets"...

Lawrence Tseung
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ltseung888 · « **Reply #3043 on:** March 27, 2015, 10:11:51 PM »

The first primitive design of the Flying Saucer to stimulate thoughts.

1. A magnet can be sent into circular motion on a track with proper electromagnetic arrangements.
2. If there were no electromagnet at the center, the centrifugal force will press on the walls of the vessel.
3. The electromagnet at the center can provide the attractive force to keep circular motion. No force need to be exerted on the walls of the vessel.
4. If the force in 3 were to be cut off abruptly, the Magnet will exert force on the wall again. it can be made to "hit" the impact mechanism to provide the force to move the Flying Saucer.

The above is the seed...

Lawrence Tseung
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ltseung888 · « **Reply #3044 on:** March 28, 2015, 02:05:56 AM »

Quote from: ltseung888 on March 27, 2015, 10:11:51 PM

The first primitive design of the Flying Saucer to stimulate thoughts.

1. A magnet can be sent into circular motion on a track with proper electromagnetic arrangements.
2. If there were no electromagnet at the center, the centrifugal force will press on the walls of the vessel.
3. The electromagnet at the center can provide the attractive force to keep circular motion. No force need to be exerted on the walls of the vessel.
4. If the force in 3 were to be cut off abruptly, the Magnet will exert force on the wall again. it can be made to "hit" the impact mechanism to provide the force to move the Flying Saucer.

The above is the seed...

Lawrence Tseung
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