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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 2198201 times)

hartiberlin

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Hi All,
here is Mr. Milkovic,
who has invented a great new mechanical oscillation system,
that seems to output 12 times more energy than inputed into the system !
Very convincing video demonstration !

Maybe this is also one effect Bessler did use in his wheel ?


http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/OscilacijeEng.html

44.MB Video at
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-1)_full_video_presentation.wmv


or here:

http://www.micropixel.biz/veljkomilkovic/videos/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-1)_full_video_presentation.wmv

« Last Edit: June 04, 2007, 06:23:30 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2006, 04:32:50 AM »
i just watched the video.  ;D

this is a very fascinating yet simple machine. he demonstrates it's ease of use to do a powerful amount of work several times.

however, he does NOT show the device powering itself, which is the best way to demonstrate overunity.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2006, 05:19:35 AM by djancak »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2006, 06:19:25 AM »
I agree! If he can show it powering itself then I will believe. It should be a relatively simple process to do. I'm surprised he went with a water pump instead of driving a motor. Plus, there is little math explained in the video that shows the flow of energy. Observations can be vary misleading. I'm still looking into it. Another note is it looks like he has had this setup for years and yet there is no coverage of it in the US? One would think if it really works and its as open sourced as it is that it would be well known by now. Just thoughts.

Tim

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2006, 06:41:37 AM »
his machine does show over unity except it is not set up in a closed loop fashion. the massive lever does show more output than what is needed to keep the pendulum swinging.

(http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Images/oscilator.jpg)
Figure 1. Mechanical hammer with a pendulum
1 - anvil, 2 - massive lever, 3 - lever axel, 4 - physical pendulum

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2006, 07:07:53 AM »
I now studied the underlying principle a bit
and it seems, it converts gravitational energy to
mechanical energy, so it taps the gravitational field.

Very interesting !

The example with the 2 dynamo flashlights is very convincing !
You see instantly, that he extracts more energy than he is putting
into the system !

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2006, 08:00:00 AM »
Have a look at this video !

This shows amazingly, how the gravity is used to light up
the dynamo flashlights, while very little
input power is used only
to keep the pendulum swinging:

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Video/Veljko_Milkovic_(video-7)_Universal_oscillator-generator.wmv


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2006, 08:06:29 AM »
that is fantastic!

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2006, 08:32:58 AM »
so i am guessing to close the loop we would place a magnet at the end of the massive lever arm where it swings back and forth close to some wrapped coil and that wrapped coil would feed a capacitor and that capacitor would run a small motor to keep the pendulum swinging so this way the system sustains itself in motion :)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2006, 12:09:17 PM »
I would suggest transfering the kinetic energy from the striking end
of the lever to a fly wheel then you can add magnets and coils to it.

I'm attaching an animated version of my idea.
It's not to scale and I left out the connecting rods. (tired)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2006, 12:33:22 PM »
Also:

How to electrostaticly run a pendulum for a lifetime...
http://www.sparkmuseum.com/PERPMO.HTM
http://www.physics.ox.ac.uk/history.asp?page=Exhibit1

I would assume like all working concepts it can be scaled up.
 ;D

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2006, 01:39:34 PM »
This dual mechanical oscillation system is so very cool  8)

 Nice to see strictly mechanical systems for a change. I think this one undoubtably works.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 01:42:34 PM »
lets just see how it is we close the loop on this system before we start declaring a victory .. slowly slowly ...

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 01:45:05 PM »
ie .. how much energy does it take to observe and interact with the pendulum in just the way that a human can interpret the system to keep it going with what seems to be minimal effort ???

but loving it all the same  ....

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2006, 02:40:24 PM »
Observing the movies, I have made a calculation on the energy necessary in order to maintain the pendulum in oscillation:
I have noticed that it is a lot important that the pendulum maintains it the angle of oscillation beyond the 45?
I have noticed that it is necessary to give to an impulse of every energy 2 second ones.
From these data, estimating the weight of the pendulum it is of approximately 18 Kg, obtains the following appraisal:
For an oscillation that goes from 45? to 40?: 1,35 W-h
For an oscillation that goes from 45? to 35?: 2,57 W-h
Where:
Pendulum weight : 18 Kg
Length of the arm between the point of application and the barycentre: 25 cm
From all this, if the data from me gain to you are corrected, the apparatus is sure an exceptional converter of the energy of gravitational field to mechanical energy.
I would wish that someone can make a similar analysis, in order according  to comprise if my analysis is corrected,  by the observation of the movie:
Veljko_Milkovic_(video-7)_Universal_oscillator-generator.wmv

Ciao, from Firenze

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2006, 03:54:29 PM »
In the end, we need a clear figure for work done, energy
output per second. We need a wattage.
Paul.