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PIH123

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3060 on: April 02, 2015, 05:42:06 PM »
4.  The flying saucer can go in a spiral path using centrifugal force.  It can use thrust to weight ratio less than 1.  It can also fly in space. It may appear to be stationary similar to a helicopter.

Larry T,

I know you either won't read this or will completely ignore it but here goes.

You state that the "flying saucer" is using a spiral path, gaining thrust via centrifugal force from this.
So how can it possibly maintain a stationary aspect without the spiral path ?

There is so much else that can be mentioned (like you knowing US and Chinese secrets - not very good secrets then are they?), but what is the point, since you will not respond to any critical evidence.
 


But ................. The reason that I bring this up is because in your "communication to Motor Manufacturers" (eg. see Reply #2963 on: March 19, 2015, 11:29:25 PM)
you point them in your letters to this thread:
such as - "Details are in http://www.overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg442672/#msg442672"

A smart potential investor / partner will most likely browse the entire thread (including the newer entries) and not just the hand picked posts you want them to see. This should give them a good understanding of your overall level of credibility.


So at least anyone you have contacted can see the path you are taking now and know not to get involved.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3061 on: April 02, 2015, 06:40:57 PM »
Let's talk about easter eggs. How did they populate the world, and did they arrive secretly in a spiral fashion?
Did they arrive in a centrifugal black vortex hole without legs and bunny feets?

Vidar

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3062 on: April 02, 2015, 09:32:11 PM »
Larry T,

I know you either won't read this or will completely ignore it but here goes.

You state that the "flying saucer" is using a spiral path, gaining thrust via centrifugal force from this.
So how can it possibly maintain a stationary aspect without the spiral path ?

There is so much else that can be mentioned (like you knowing US and Chinese secrets - not very good secrets then are they?), but what is the point, since you will not respond to any critical evidence.
 


But ................. The reason that I bring this up is because in your "communication to Motor Manufacturers" (eg. see Reply #2963 on: March 19, 2015, 11:29:25 PM)
you point them in your letters to this thread:
such as - "Details are in http://www.overunity.com/1763/12-times-more-output-than-input-dual-mechanical-oscillation-system/msg442672/#msg442672"

A smart potential investor / partner will most likely browse the entire thread (including the newer entries) and not just the hand picked posts you want them to see. This should give them a good understanding of your overall level of credibility.


So at least anyone you have contacted can see the path you are taking now and know not to get involved.

A tight spiral will appear stationary.

My task is to sow seeds.  I do not have the resources to build a Flying Saucer.  But many Governments do.  The USA and Chinese Governments already built them.  Some of their test prototypes mistakenly flew outside the controlled areas and got photographed.

When an object is moving in X direction and if a perpendicular force is applied, the object will turn very tight circles - including flying back at 180 degrees.  The behavior of a flying saucer is easily explained once we apply circular motion concepts...

The Physics is undeniable.  The Centrifugal Force or Circular motion aspects need to be re-evaluated.  The Milkovic 2SO, the Chan Wheel, the Skinner Device, the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier all used such technology to lead-out energy.  This field will also allow flying to outer space and have the energy replenished...  It is better than reversible chemical reactions.

Some seeds will fall on rocks.  Some will be eaten by birds.  Some will bear fruit. 

Lawrence Tseung
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3063 on: April 02, 2015, 09:50:15 PM »
I now have email from an Asian motor manufacturer interested in the Flying Saucer.

Will this seed bear fruit?

Divine Wine is for all to share.

Lawrence Tseung
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PIH123

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3064 on: April 02, 2015, 11:28:23 PM »
I now have email from an Asian motor manufacturer interested in the Flying Saucer.

Sorry, that is less believable than the TsingTao (intended spelling) university multiplier.


As has been mentioned before, you are a likeable guy.
You do not curse in your posts (unlike that Theoria A-pot-to-piss-in).
You are steadfast to your beliefs, and I believe you genuinely want to make a difference.

I think you would be better suited to leave the flying saucer thing out of this thread if you want it to be viewed and taken seriously by potential partners.


Your statement in the previous posts
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The USA and Chinese Governments already built them.  Some of their test prototypes mistakenly flew outside the controlled areas and got photographed.
makes no sense.

A government has the EXTREME technology and is capable of building flying saucers, but fails to pilot them within a controlled area.
USA and China are the 4th and 3rd largest countries in the world, with tens (if not hundreds) of millions of acres of  military land.
And they go and accidentally fly the number one most secret technical advancement ever over a populated area for a photo session.

Come on man. Have some pride in what you are posting.

Pete

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3065 on: April 02, 2015, 11:57:10 PM »
With any prototype developments, there are accidents or unforeseen happenings.  When a Flying Saucer can fly to space covering many thousands of miles, an accidental flying over a crowded city is not unimaginable.

I happen to believe in Mr. Lee Cheung Kin - the co-author of the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy Theory.  He is a retired missile expert and is well connected in China.  In his words: "What you have posted is kindergarten staff compared with what has been developed in China.  I even know which group that got the Flying Saucer over Nanjing."

Wars between major Nations will be destructive - end of the human race.  It is better to use the powerful technology to benefit the entire human race.

I am not looking for investors nor partners.  I sow seeds...

The Physics is correct (The Earth is round) - no matter what the Nay Sayers post.

Lawrence Tseung
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3066 on: April 03, 2015, 12:27:59 AM »
With any prototype developments, there are accidents or unforeseen happenings.
agreed

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When a Flying Saucer can fly to space covering many thousands of miles, an accidental flying over a crowded city is not unimaginable.
That should be "IF" not when

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I happen to believe in Mr. Lee Cheung Kin - the co-author of the Lee-Tseung Lead-out Energy Theory.  He is a retired missile expert and is well connected in China.  In his words: "What you have posted is kindergarten staff compared with what has been developed in China.  I even know which group that got the Flying Saucer over Nanjing."

I have no problem that you are basing your entire crusade on a belief. But that should be made clear by you.
You present ALL of your beliefs as factual evidence. They are not.

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Wars between major Nations will be destructive - end of the human race.  It is better to use the powerful technology to benefit the entire human race.
It would be better in that case to use technology which can be proven.

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I am not looking for investors nor partners.  I sow seeds...
You are sending letters out to businesses looking for them to spend money on your ideas.
If you chose not to call that a partnership, then so be it.

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The Physics is correct (The Earth is round) - no matter what the Nay Sayers post.
Who ever said the world was not round ?
Apart from religious types who were told (on threat of death) what to think and relied on beliefs, not well established evidence.

The diameter of the earth was very closely estimated well before 0 B.C.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3067 on: April 03, 2015, 02:04:33 AM »
A quote from NASA.

China is following and planning to overtake such steps.

Some "private" motor manufacturers in China are taking steps to build QMOGENs.  Will they succeed?  Tsinghua University has succeeded since 1996.  Will it share the secret?  Will the many motor and generator manufacturers figure out the secret on their own?  They have some of the brightest scientists and engineers in the World...

If there are over 50 QMOGENs known already, will they produce a few more.  The Physics of the lead-out energy theory is here for them to read...

Lawrence Tseung
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3068 on: April 03, 2015, 02:31:20 AM »
"If there are over 50 QMOGENs known already" it's that two letter word 'IF' that says it all. I's fun to speculate, but the stark reality is that NO QMOGENs exist.
Why don't you communicate with Mike at: www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%2011/contact.htm
He'll be happy to hear about lead-out energy.

ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3069 on: April 03, 2015, 02:39:43 AM »

You present ALL of your beliefs as factual evidence.

1.  The Milkovic 2SO uses centrifugal force to lift the Weight is a fact.
2.  The Chan Wheel with a properly unbalanced wheel is superior to the pendulum is a fact.
3.  The Tsinghua University Unbalanced Cylinder is a super set of Unbalanced Wheels is a fact.
4.  The Skinner device using centrifugal force to lead-out gravitational energy is a fact.
5.  If gravitational energy can be lead-out, magnetic and electromagnetic energy will be lead-out in a similar way is a fact.
6.  The sling (King David) used centrifugal force is a fact.
7.  The Forever Yuen experiments in swinging up, down, left and right on youtube using Centrifugal force is a fact.
8.  The meetings with Liang, Wang, 225HP groups at Tsinghua University is a fact.
9.  Centrifugal force varies as the square of the angular velocity is a fact.
10. QMOGENs use motor to increase the angular or rotational velocity is a fact.

The Physics cannot be wrong. The secondary school students who went to Taipo to see the Chan Wheel can follow it.  The Nay Sayers cannot follow it (or paid to act stupid) ...

Lawrence Tseung
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PIH123

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3070 on: April 03, 2015, 04:56:38 AM »
1.  The Milkovic 2SO uses centrifugal force to lift the Weight is a fact.
2.  The Chan Wheel with a properly unbalanced wheel is superior to the pendulum is a fact.
3.  The Tsinghua University Unbalanced Cylinder is a super set of Unbalanced Wheels is a fact.
4.  The Skinner device using centrifugal force to lead-out gravitational energy is a fact.
5.  If gravitational energy can be lead-out, magnetic and electromagnetic energy will be lead-out in a similar way is a fact.
6.  The sling (King David) used centrifugal force is a fact.
7.  The Forever Yuen experiments in swinging up, down, left and right on youtube using Centrifugal force is a fact.
8.  The meetings with Liang, Wang, 225HP groups at Tsinghua University is a fact.
9.  Centrifugal force varies as the square of the angular velocity is a fact.
10. QMOGENs use motor to increase the angular or rotational velocity is a fact.

The Physics cannot be wrong. The secondary school students who went to Taipo to see the Chan Wheel can follow it.  The Nay Sayers cannot follow it (or paid to act stupid) ...

Then I guess since I can easily follow the physics of what you are trying to portray as fact, I must be the other one.
Some dumb paid shill awaiting my check from XYZ petroleum corp.

Sorry, but that is just lame Larry.

Do you really not have a problem offering number 5 as fact
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"5.  If gravitational energy can be lead-out, magnetic and electromagnetic energy will be lead-out in a similar way is a fact."

"Ifs" and "will be"s represent facts to you.

That is not just word semantics, it is blatantly made up.
Anyone reading this post (even your supporters) will have a hard time supporting that.


Maybe you are not such a good guy if you try to pass off something so obviously untrue as a fact.

Good Luck

Pete

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3071 on: April 03, 2015, 07:00:50 AM »
Conversation with a teacher who is also a sailor.

Teacher: "We can sail with the wind blowing behind.  We can also sail into the wind with some zigzag path.  Can you use gravitational energy to do something similar?"

What is your answer?

Lawrence Tseung
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ltseung888

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3072 on: April 03, 2015, 07:05:11 AM »

Do you really not have a problem offering number 5 as fact

5.  If gravitational energy can be lead-out, magnetic and electromagnetic energy will be lead-out in a similar way is a fact.

Pete

Pete,

You missed the magnetic horizontal pendulum experiment.
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3073 on: April 03, 2015, 03:19:25 PM »
Conversation with a teacher who is also a sailor.

Teacher: "We can sail with the wind blowing behind.  We can also sail into the wind with some zigzag path.  Can you use gravitational energy to do something similar?"

What is your answer?

Lawrence Tseung
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The way a sail produces "lift" can be easily explained by conventional physics.
Bernoulli and/or Newtonian principles specifically.

But this "lift' alone cannot produce forward motion. You also need to understand what is under the boat resisting the urge for sideways slip.

A combination of fixed mast point (leading edge), a curved/cambered sail and keel/centreboard are all part of the equation.

To simply point out that "we can sail into the wind" as if that is some kind of unexpected thing, highlights the fact that your "teacher" who is also a sailor, merely understands how to helm a sail boat, and not how the sail works.
And he is probably a "music therapy" or "dance" teacher judging by the last part of his question.

It always amuses me (as an aerospace engineer and an occasional sailor BTW), when someone quotes a pilot as some kind of authority on how any component of a plane works. Are taxi drivers experts on the IC engine because they steer the cab?


The bottom line is that any system relying on gravitational energy ::) to produce an unexpected result, will not work because the critical component of being able to vector the force in a desired direction (that which the keel of the boat does) simply does not and physically cannot exist.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #3074 on: April 03, 2015, 03:58:15 PM »
The way a sail produces "lift" can be easily explained by conventional physics.
Bernoulli and/or Newtonian principles specifically.

But this "lift' alone cannot produce forward motion. You also need to understand what is under the boat resisting the urge for sideways slip.

A combination of fixed mast point (leading edge), a curved/cambered sail and keel/centreboard are all part of the equation.

To simply point out that "we can sail into the wind" as if that is some kind of unexpected thing, highlights the fact that your "teacher" who is also a sailor, merely understands how to helm a sail boat, and not how the sail works.
And he is probably a "music therapy" or "dance" teacher judging by the last part of his question.

It always amuses me (as an aerospace engineer and an occasional sailor BTW), when someone quotes a pilot as some kind of authority on how any component of a plane works. Are taxi drivers experts on the IC engine because they steer the cab?


The bottom line is that any system relying on gravitational energy ::) to produce an unexpected result, will not work because the critical component of being able to vector the force in a desired direction (that which the keel of the boat does) simply does not and physically cannot exist.

4 boards as shown in 3065 (not 3035) will do it...  Thanks for the vectoring of forces.  You are a real engineer...