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Author Topic: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions  (Read 613812 times)

allcanadian

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1635 on: January 26, 2015, 01:17:51 AM »
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I was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?.


I mean look at my last post, it has some kind of progression, it offers some useful information and hopefully provokes people to think about things. Then we come to your last post which is condescending and arrogant and doesn't provoke thought concerning much of anything. It amounts to little more than googled one liners to make other people look stupid, not unlike most all your posts.


So here is a suggestion, go read the original works of some of the greatest minds in our history. You will find none of them forced anything on anyone. The most intelligent people always ask people to consider their perspective and attempt to justify it in a meaningful way. The most intelligent people always layout their thoughts in a comprehensive way and let the listener discover the answer. This is what we call learning Mark and the greatest minds, the most intelligent people in our history all did this while you do not.


So if you are here to help people I would suggest you try and hold a rational conversation like an actual human being because what your doing is ridiculous and counter productive. You know I do not always agree with others such as MH and TK but I do respect them and their opinions because they act like grown ups and can hold a rational respectful conversation with other people.


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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1636 on: January 26, 2015, 01:27:07 AM »
Quote from: allcanadian on January 26, 2015, 01:17:51 AM
@Mark


I was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?.
Because I choose to be here, just as you choose to be here.
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I mean look at my last post, it has some kind of progression, it offers some useful information and hopefully provokes people to think about things. Then we come to your last post which is condescending and arrogant and doesn't provoke thought concerning much of anything. It amounts to little more than googled one liners to make other people look stupid, not unlike most all your posts.
Speaking of progression where is an example of free energy progress that you claim?  I asked you to cite an example of progress.  Did I miss your reply?  My last reply was to wattsup's error laden diatribe.  Would you prefer that the garden path to wonderland he laid out be accepted as truth?  If so, why?
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So here is a suggestion, go read the original works of some of the greatest minds in our history. You will find none of them forced anything on anyone. The most intelligent people always ask people to consider their perspective and attempt to justify it in a meaningful way. The most intelligent people always layout their thoughts in a comprehensive way and let the listener discover the answer. This is what we call learning Mark and the greatest minds, the most intelligent people in our history all did this while you do not.
Considering the active and willful rejection of what the giants have told us by many here, you might wish to reconsider your assertions.
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So if you are here to help people I would suggest you try and hold a rational conversation like an actual human being because what your doing is ridiculous and counter productive. You know I do not always agree with others such as MH and TK but I do respect them and their opinions because they act like grown ups and can hold a rational respectful conversation with other people.
If you are claiming my posts are irrational, then kindly cite an example.
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1637 on: January 26, 2015, 02:08:47 AM »
Quote from: allcanadian on January 26, 2015, 01:17:51 AM
@Mark

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I was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?.
Many are starting to ask the very same question.

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So if you are here to help people I would suggest you try and hold a rational conversation like an actual human being because what your doing is ridiculous and counter productive
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There are times when the ridiculous are clearly present,like we should follow the magnetic example given to us by science and physics,but they are yet to explain the what produces the physical force within that magnetic field. But to be fair,are you misinterpreting the !counter productive! ?__>is it more a case that MarkE is correct,and we just dont like that,as that means we are incorrect?.

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So here is a suggestion, go read the original works of some of the greatest minds in our history. You will find none of them forced anything on anyone. The most intelligent people always ask people to consider their perspective and attempt to justify it in a meaningful way. The most intelligent people always layout their thoughts in a comprehensive way and let the listener discover the answer. This is what we call learning Mark and the greatest minds, the most intelligent people in our history all did this while you do not.
Some are stuck fast in the dogma that is common physics,and have no room for change. They see what has been shown to work around a few basic test,and decide that there is no need to look any further. This can be seen with the magnetic field-things work around there theories of the magnetic field,so that's that,no need to look any further. But it is clear that they have missed something some where along the line,as there is still no answer to basic questions we ask about the magnetic force. One would think if there modle and understanding was correct,then the answers would be right there in front of them.

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I mean look at my last post, it has some kind of progression, it offers some useful information and hopefully provokes people to think about things. Then we come to your last post which is condescending and arrogant and doesn't provoke thought concerning much of anything. It amounts to little more than googled one liners to make other people look stupid, not unlike most all your posts.
For some,it's a matter of having to be right wether right or not. This happens so much in the scientific comunity-->take the cold fusion fiasco for example. Some have a need to be king,and they like others to see that they are what they seek to be. It's funny to watch these guys sometime's-you will notice that they wont take on another that they feel may know just as much!if not more!than they do. So far i have seen three such instances in the last couple of weeks,and it's funny when one questions the others opinion,all go's quiet lol.

We all know who is number 1 here-and number two. The good thing about these two guys is that they go out of there way to help you out,and there actually open to looking into AND even building/replicating so called OU devices-->because there mind is still open. Mark would be sitting at number 3 here in my opinion as far as knowledge go's-and thats not to bad at all,but i feel he is a closed book,and has little room for change.

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You know I do not always agree with others such as MH and TK but I do respect them and their opinions because they act like grown ups and can hold a rational respectful conversation with other people.
And you can take that to the bank ;)
hell-This is a little snipet from  MH's last post to me-Quote: Do you understand the most basic basic fundamentals about electricity and magnetism?   (This is a generic "you") Because clearly if you don't understand them, then you are handicapped and simply can't function properly when it comes to electronics.
Lol,but thats all good-sometimes i deserve that sort of a comment with the odd things i post-->or i may forget to include the full schematic for the space shuttles instrument cluster in my description,or it may be a case that they dont speak mandarin like i do ;D
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MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1638 on: January 26, 2015, 02:22:26 AM »
Then there is the classic:  Failure to answer a question about a circuit that consists of a power supply and one single lousy component.

If you (generic) can't answer a question properly about a circuit that consists of a single component, then why should I listen to you at all?

It's like I said, you go to a car mechanic and you find out he has no clue that there are two sets of socket wrenches, English and metric.  I don't think anybody would want that guy to service and repair their car.
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1639 on: January 26, 2015, 02:26:53 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on January 26, 2015, 02:22:26 AM

It's like I said, you go to a car mechanic and you find out he has no clue that there are two sets of socket wrenches, English and metric.  I don't think anybody would want that guy to service and repair their car.


There are two sets of sockets?  Great Scott!  No wonder my wrenches do not always fit.

(Just kidding.  Actually a very good analogue.)

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1640 on: January 26, 2015, 02:30:18 AM »


Quote from: allcanadian on Today at 01:17:51 AM
"I was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?."


Quote from: tinman on January 26, 2015, 02:08:47 AM
Many are starting to ask the very same question.


The question that answers itself...nevertheless, I believe  I provided the answer many moons ago.

That particular moniker may be past its 'best before' date...time for a name change...again.

Sarkstichintime may be suitable.

It may be advisable to recruit another bumboy, however.

Regards...
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Pirate88179

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1641 on: January 26, 2015, 03:40:27 AM »
Is Crap-Z-ro still posting?

I mean, I see that he is posting but do not read them as he is on "IGNORE".  I can only imagine what pearls of wisdom he is sharing now.  Let me guess....anal ...gay activities, or other deviant sexual activities?

Good to know that some things do not change.

Bill
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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1642 on: January 26, 2015, 04:21:05 AM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 26, 2015, 03:40:27 AM
Is Crap-Z-ro still posting?

I mean, I see that he is posting but do not read them as he is on "IGNORE".  I can only imagine what pearls of wisdom he is sharing now.  Let me guess....anal ...gay activities, or other deviant sexual activities?

Good to know that some things do not change.

Bill

If it wasn't readily apparent before that the forum's resident arse kisser has lets say an avid repressed preoccupation with homosexuality, then it should be by now.

Guess he didn't want to give it away by including the revealing prefex 'butt' to his moniker 'pirate'.

If it walks like a gay duck and sucks mallard schlong like a gay duck...then its a gay duck.

It is, as it appears to be.

Regards...
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MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1643 on: January 26, 2015, 04:53:22 AM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 26, 2015, 03:40:27 AM
Is Crap-Z-ro still posting?

I mean, I see that he is posting but do not read them as he is on "IGNORE".  I can only imagine what pearls of wisdom he is sharing now.  Let me guess....anal ...gay activities, or other deviant sexual activities?

Good to know that some things do not change.

Bill
You are not missing much.  It would be a favor to me if you wouldn't stoke the fire so to speak.
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Pirate88179

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1644 on: January 26, 2015, 04:54:53 AM »
Quote from: MarkE on January 26, 2015, 04:53:22 AM
You are not missing much.  It would be a favor to me if you wouldn't stoke the fire so to speak.

Understood.

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1645 on: January 26, 2015, 05:10:42 AM »
Quote from: MarkE on January 26, 2015, 04:53:22 AM
You are not missing much.  It would be a favor to me if you wouldn't stoke the fire so to speak.

 Quote from: MarkE on Today at 04:53:22 AM<blockquote>You are not missing much.  It would be a favor to me if you wouldn't stoke the fire so to speak.


Arse kisser's reply:

"Understood.

Bill "   



Folks, that lip smacking sound you may have heard was the forum resident closet homosexual arse kisser stopping work momentarily to take direction from one of the handlers who's arse he loves to kiss.

A little too late for that tho...ol' Cappy's door has been knocked on again, and he's not in a good mood.

Regards...


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MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1646 on: January 26, 2015, 05:13:29 AM »
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 26, 2015, 04:54:53 AM
Understood.

Bill
Thanks.  It helps reduce clutter.
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tinman

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1647 on: January 26, 2015, 05:17:56 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on January 26, 2015, 02:22:26 AM

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Then there is the classic:  Failure to answer a question about a circuit that consists of a power supply and one single lousy component.

If you (generic) can't answer a question properly about a circuit that consists of a single component, then why should I listen to you at all?
So dose this circuit have one or two components?-transistor + another component,or just the 1 single lousy component?.

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It's like I said, you go to a car mechanic and you find out he has no clue that there are two sets of socket wrenches, English and metric.  I don't think anybody would want that guy to service and repair their car.
MH-you have not provided enough information for us to ascertain as to wether the mechanic can survice our car or not.
1-Is the mechanic old school or new school?-is he apt with the metric or the imperial?.
2-what is the make and modle of this car,so as we know if it is a metric or imperial fitted vehicle.
3-You have stated metric as one,but what is the imperial scale you are refering to>?
A-Whitworth
B-BSF
C-BA
D-AF

For us to be able to make an accurate assumption of wether or not the mechanic can service our car with confidence,PLEASE include all the details we need to make this assumption ;)
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allcanadian

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1648 on: January 26, 2015, 05:20:44 AM »
@Mark
I guess what I should have said was you seem like an intelligent person and I think you have a lot to offer but I don't understand why you picking posts apart versus trying to move the conversation forward. I know I have and continue to do the same thing sometimes as well as many others here but I have come to understand it is pointless. In fact it is kind of amazing that "We" as responsible adults could act like this and I'm sure even our children would find it it embarassing to know their parents would act like this.
This place just boggles my mind that a group of supposedly responsible adults cannot seem to get along and debate the issues rationally, we can do better I think. I am going to make the effort to change and I would hope others would consider it as well.
 
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1649 on: January 26, 2015, 05:28:33 AM »
Quote from: allcanadian on January 26, 2015, 05:20:44 AM
@Mark
I guess what I should have said was you seem like an intelligent person and I think you have a lot to offer but I don't understand why you picking posts apart versus trying to move the conversation forward. I know I have and continue to do the same thing sometimes as well as many others here but I have come to understand it is pointless. In fact it is kind of amazing that "We" as responsible adults could act like this and I'm sure even our children would find it it embarassing to know their parents would act like this.
This place just boggles my mind that a group of supposedly responsible adults cannot seem to get along and debate the issues rationally, we can do better I think. I am going to make the effort to change and I would hope others would consider it as well.


Because thats what he gets paid to do.

Regards...


 
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