Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal (Read 1745290 times)

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1890 on:** May 13, 2015, 07:26:28 AM »

Quote from: NickZ on May 13, 2015, 07:18:13 AM

"Notice that the students said they have gone five months without discharging the battery."

The rest is speculation. As that also means, that they ran it for that long without ever having to do any additional charging.
Time will tell.
But, why do we need to assume something doesn't work as shown, until it's proven that it does.
Can't we just take it with a grain of sand until proven one way or the other?

It's all speculation as the translations are totally butchered. Why do they need a spark ignition? Do other electric bikes have that? They also said they went 60kph but, with those small wheels, others translated that as having gone 60 km. (distance, not speed)

I am assuming nothing other than it is not self-sustaining which is obvious, unless, you think my car battery being 5 years old is self sustaining like I said. They do not explain the solar cells either. Read the various translations and you will see some conflicting data which is understandable. I am not saying they are lying or it is a scam, I am just saying it is not what is being reported.

We can't assume it works as shown as it is not really demonstrated, but explained using translations for English and therefore we really do not know what they are meaning.

Bill

tesletic · « **Reply #1891 on:** May 13, 2015, 10:22:13 AM »

Thank you all for the replies, highly appreciated

I will stick to my old idea using compressed air that seems to be for the moment realistic and as you can see in the link already proven to work although not by not using electricity but powering it directly witch is OK but then you have to buy their motor and it is not a bicycle !
http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-news/motorbike-that-runs-on-air-2797531.html

I would like to use AIR as temporarily storage capacity for electric energy as there is an enormous amount of energy available for example going downhill and mostly lost ! Yes I know regenerative braking but it is only a small amount that go's back because batteries are to slow unless they will release this new aluminum batteries !

In terms of my bike project will try to use a small combination of lithium batteries & capacitors (boostcap) & a small compressed air motor-generator that provided more then 1KW electric power on demand in real time using previous mentioned setup that will only be used as buffer to run a 5KW HUB motor ! Hoping to have some budget for this by selling my Jeep

as it is here just standing most of the time ! These days a carbon FAT-BIKE are not that cheap even getting the frame from China!

Anyway will be posting my findings here that's for sure. carpediem

https://twitter.com/thevoice4you_

mscoffman · « **Reply #1892 on:** May 13, 2015, 06:27:12 PM »

Quote from: tesletic on May 13, 2015, 10:22:13 AM

Thank you all for the replies, highly appreciated

I will stick to my old idea using compressed air that seems to be for the moment realistic and as you can see in the link already proven to work although not by not using electricity but powering it directly witch is OK but then you have to buy their motor and it is not a bicycle !
http://media.drive.com.au/cars/car-news/motorbike-that-runs-on-air-2797531.html

I would like to use AIR as temporarily storage capacity for electric energy as there is an enormous amount of energy available for example going downhill and mostly lost ! Yes I know regenerative braking but it is only a small amount that go's back because batteries are to slow unless they will release this new aluminum batteries !

In terms of my bike project will try to use a small combination of lithium batteries & capacitors (boostcap) & a small compressed air motor-generator that provided more then 1KW electric power on demand in real time using previous mentioned setup that will only be used as buffer to run a 5KW HUB motor ! Hoping to have some budget for this by selling my Jeep as it is here just standing most of the time ! These days a carbon FAT-BIKE are not that cheap even getting the frame from China!

Anyway will be posting my findings here that's for sure. carpediem
https://twitter.com/thevoice4you_

One way of using air is by providing a weather forecast that allows the bike to charge air when air temperature
is in the cold part of the day then recharge the battery when air temperature is high the difference in
temperature translates to a difference in pressure. This method was in use in mining air powered trains
during late 1800's

..S..MarkSCoffman

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1893 on:** May 14, 2015, 04:08:23 AM »

Quote from: mscoffman on May 13, 2015, 06:27:12 PM

One way of using air is by providing a weather forecast that allows the bike to charge air when air temperature
is in the cold part of the day then recharge the battery when air temperature is high the difference in
temperature translates to a difference in pressure. This method was in use in mining air powered trains
during late 1800's

..S..MarkSCoffman

Good idea. Also maybe a small compressor (like he said) on board running off of solar when parked to top off the tanks with a pressure on/off switch. I would not mind if my air tanks were slowly filling all day while I was at work, and it costs me nothing. Cloudy days...plug it in or walk I suppose. India has had air powered cars for sometime now I believe. I remember reading about them a few years back.

Bill

screen · « **Reply #1894 on:** May 15, 2015, 12:28:50 PM »

New Video of Captor of eletrons ground by Barbosa and Leal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkuL1V1Fe9k

fnoguesromero · « **Reply #1895 on:** May 16, 2015, 06:43:43 PM »

Someone get a working replication? share schematics ?

I was reading a lot of pages in this blog and I don't see it clear

rigelorion · « **Reply #1896 on:** May 27, 2015, 08:16:30 PM »

Hello, please forgive my poor English, my native language is Spanish, I have closely followed this thread, and I read very interesting things here.

However, I notice that some people look even more hopeful that Clarence them solve the problem, and my opinion is that what we must do is to replicate the experiment of Mr. Clarence, all data is here, then you repeat the experiment if you have doubts.

thanks

kEhYo77 · « **Reply #1897 on:** May 29, 2015, 03:47:03 PM »

Magnethos · « **Reply #1898 on:** July 02, 2015, 06:51:10 PM »

Hello, I'm trying to replicate the Barbosa Leal (energy from the ground) circuit, but I've a problem. When I try to switch on the load connected to the output of the circuit, the automatic protection circuit from home switches off like when you do a short-circuit.

What can be causing this?

Here there is the schematic I'm using

captainkt · « **Reply #1899 on:** July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM »

@Magnethos, use ground rods or another earth not the main supply earth as will always trip as if a fault ( earth leakage).

Regards
Keith

Magnethos · « **Reply #1900 on:** July 03, 2015, 10:12:59 AM »

@captainkt
I'll use the water pipe as the earth's ground. Thank you for the answer.

Magnethos · « **Reply #1901 on:** July 03, 2015, 10:18:24 AM »

Just one more question.
How I know that the water pipe is a good ground? I mean, if there is some measurement or technique to determine that the pipe is a good or bad ground.

ATOM1 · « **Reply #1902 on:** July 03, 2015, 05:47:54 PM »

Its the surface area that's all ! Water spreads out but I don't see much power here on the proposed system also the energy will not be predictable it will have lows and highs ect .... The earths electric field is just over 7hz but that's not including interstellar radiation soaking into the earth at 8000hz and than charged alpha particles coming up from the earth core but you need a lot of fine coil to catch them. My suggestion is a negatively charged coil to catch everything ! About 1 kwh per square meter... Also remember a solar panel only converts 19% so a negative coil is best ...

ATOM1

Magnethos · « **Reply #1903 on:** July 03, 2015, 05:52:45 PM »

I've tried again replacing the power grid ground with the water pipe. The water pipe ground is ok because I've tested it with the multimeter. The problem is that I've still the same problem as before: the breaker trips when I try to switch on the load in the output.

When the circuit is on, no problem. When I connect a load and I try to switch it on, then I get the problem.

What can be causing that problem?

seychelles · « **Reply #1904 on:** July 03, 2015, 06:02:05 PM »

YEP IT IS EASY BUT YOU TAKE YOUR OWN RISK IF YOU DIE TOMORROW FROM ELECTROCUTION DO NOT COME TO ME OK..YOU GET A 100WATT 240 V QAURTZ HALLOGEN LAMP. YOU CONNECT IT NORMALY ,THEN YOU GET THE AC CURRENT CONSUMED BY THIS LAMP.
THEN YOU TAKE THE LIVE WIRE CONNECT IT IN SERIES WITH THE LAMP TO YOUR GROUND NOT THE TAP PLUMBING GROUND BUT YOUR ROD IN THE GROUND EARTH.. THE LAMP SHOULD LITE UP JUST THE SAME INTENSITY AS WHEN YOU CONNECTED WITH THE SYSTEM NEUTRAL CHECK THE CURRENT DRAW IT SHOULD BE THE SAME..IF NOT YOUR EARTH IS KAKA..

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