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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1372583 times)

Offline Yuri_L

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1920 on: August 01, 2015, 09:58:53 AM »
To understand how this "magic-loop" creates “Anti-Lenz effect”,  I offer to redraw the "BarboGen"  ones more time with no shorted loop - Fig.6.
As you can see into the core, there are two fluxes Ф1 and Ф2 directed toward each other.

Flux  Ф1 is equal to   Ф1 = u*I1*400 (turns)*S/L

Flux  Ф2 is equal to   Ф2 = u*I1*1 (turn)*S/L
 
where u - magnetic permeability;
S - core section (cm2);
L- the length of the magnetic circuit.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1921 on: August 01, 2015, 10:30:15 AM »
Let's do a short-circuit  the loop to set its current equal to 100A.
In this case, in the core are formed three fluxes.

In accordance to Lenz's law the fluxes Ф3 and Ф2 acts against the each other but also the "magic" flux Ф3 is consistent with the flux Ф1 and besides Ф3>>Ф2.

It is ALL secret of Barbosa.

We cheated Lenz's Law.   without a ground connection.

I have cheated third Newton's Law in 2011 :)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1922 on: August 01, 2015, 10:38:40 AM »
Let's do a short-circuit  the loop to set its current equal to 100A.
In this case, in the core is formed three fluxes.

In accordance to Lenz's law the fluxes Ф3 and Ф2 acts against the each other but also flux Ф3 is consistent with the flux Ф1 and besides Ф3>>Ф2.
It is ALL.
We cheated Lenz's Law.

hi Yuri,

I like your strong theory.Now if only you can show us your working model in youtube which tallies with your theory it would be nice.

Good Luck. .. ... .. . ..

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1922 on: August 01, 2015, 10:38:40 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1923 on: August 01, 2015, 11:08:40 AM »
You can see a working example (8kWatt) of my partner (let see and  hear the sound of the transformer after 9 min 15 sec).

No-loaded transformer works very loud, but under load - its suond is wery low. This is the main work feature properly designed such an overunity transformer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRZBO-LILlA

I ve already patented in Ukraine the principle of  Lenz-law compensation and will continue to publish the appropriate PCT application.

Best regards.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1924 on: August 01, 2015, 05:22:26 PM »
Let's do a short-circuit  the loop to set its current equal to 100A.
In this case, in the core are formed three fluxes.

In accordance to Lenz's law the fluxes Ф3 and Ф2 acts against the each other but also the "magic" flux Ф3 is consistent with the flux Ф1 and besides Ф3>>Ф2.

It is ALL secret of Barbosa.

We cheated Lenz's Law.   without a ground connection.

I have cheated third Newton's Law in 2011 :)

Hi Yuri. Can you explain why you think there is a new third 'magic' flux, and why you think this will
be an advantage? I don't follow your explanation. Where would we connect the load in your diagram?
All the best...

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1924 on: August 01, 2015, 05:22:26 PM »
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Offline TheCell

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1925 on: August 01, 2015, 08:03:55 PM »
Hello Yuri,
I replicated the device like shown in your diagram:
http://wyst.at.ua/_fr/0/0232461.jpg
with one exception: the primary has no tapping , so the lamp is allways connected parallel to the primary.
The trafo with lamp connected consumes about 90 real Watts, the Lamp consumes 75 Watts itself.
The trafo alone also 15 real watts power factor allways 1.
It does not matter which wire of the primary is connected to the thick wire, the values are allways the same.
Please help.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1926 on: August 02, 2015, 06:27:19 AM »
The trafo alone also 15 real watts power factor allways 1.
Hi,
I faced with a similar situation at the beginning of my research.
I have some question to You.
1) How much consumes trafo without the shorted loop?
2) What is the current value in idling mode of trafo (without the shorted loop)?
3) What is the power factor in idling mode of trafo  (without the shorted loop)?
4) What is the value of the core area (in cm2)?
5) What is the current value in the shorted loop ?
6) How many turns are in pimary coil?
7) Where is placed the shorted loop on the core?

All these factors are essential.

At first You should get a "roaring" transformer without a load (but with a shorted loop).

Best regards.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1926 on: August 02, 2015, 06:27:19 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1927 on: August 02, 2015, 07:18:11 AM »
Hi Yuri. Can you please indicate where are you connecting your load for you last diagram?
I have tried this configuration and it draws about 20W in to the primary winding to
get about 75A on the single turn secondary. Where are you connecting the load
in your configuration? From the hot phase ('+') to the neutral? I am using a 600VA
power transformer toroid.
All the best...

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1928 on: August 02, 2015, 07:25:16 AM »
From the hot phase ('+') to the neutral?

Yes.
But You shuld answer all above my questions too.
From 600Watt's trafo You can get 1.2 kWatt active pover.

At first You should get a "roaring" transformer without a load (but with a shorted loop).
« Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 11:26:24 AM by Yuri_L »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1928 on: August 02, 2015, 07:25:16 AM »
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Offline leo48

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1929 on: August 02, 2015, 11:10:06 AM »
Please The Cell
 I have problems opening the file DSC00304.zip
 Thank you  ;D
 Leo48

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1930 on: August 02, 2015, 11:14:30 AM »
I have problems opening the file DSC00304.zip

I had the same problem.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1930 on: August 02, 2015, 11:14:30 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1931 on: August 02, 2015, 11:48:17 AM »
Can you explain why you think there is a third flux.
Where would we connect the load in your diagram?

I do not know what to answer.
I am sure that each coil creates its own flux under certain conditions (according to my researches).
The flow direction (in the core) from each coil  can set  developer of the OU device.
The output power can get with a separate coil.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1932 on: August 02, 2015, 07:56:48 PM »
Hi,
I faced with a similar situation at the beginning of my research.
I have some question to You.
1) How much consumes trafo without the shorted loop?
->1.09 Watts / 1.37 VA with  232Volts primary
2) What is the current value in idling mode of trafo (without the shorted loop)?
-> I= 'VA' / Volts = 0.0059 A
3) What is the power factor in idling mode of trafo  (without the shorted loop)?
-> cosPhi = 1.09 Watts/ 1.37 VA = 0,79 (bad core material ?!)
4) What is the value of the core area (in cm2)?
-> 3,2cm * 3,4cm = 10,88 cm^2
5) What is the current value in the shorted loop ?
-> clamp meter mot available , but I ordered one today
6) How many turns are in pimary coil?
-> 2199/6 = 232 / 0,633 -> 2199 prim wind.
7) Where is placed the shorted loop on the core?
-> see DSC00304_orig.JPG
All these factors are essential.

At first You should get a "roaring" transformer without a load (but with a shorted loop).

Best regards.
My pics:
http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/584/
http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/585/
http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/586/
http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/587/

The trafo can be disassembled and rewound, but the trafo steel is pretty bad .
CosPhi should be closed to zero ?!
My trafo is'nt roaring yet. (Secondary not thick enough, I think)

Thanks Yuri for analyzing my setup.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1933 on: August 03, 2015, 02:01:53 PM »

The trafo can be disassembled and rewound, but the trafo steel is pretty bad .
CosPhi should be closed to zero ?!


Dear TheCell

There is below  the picture of my first OU-trafo that I was tested a month ago.

As You can see  it is almost as in yours case (maximum power) BUT

You need to reduce turn number of the inductor.

Now I am doing experiments with a bigger OU-trafo on the base a welding device.

I'm shure  it  is most suitable for our purposes. There are two separate sections.

Please send me e-mail.

Best regards, Yuri

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1934 on: August 03, 2015, 03:09:41 PM »
hy  Yuri  what s  the  special   ou  can  get   I  have  try  for  months   winding  and  rewind    nanocristal amourfus   core  Hitachi ,with  good  driver    all  frequency   ,  not  really   lot  ou    coming    were  is   the  cat  ?

 

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