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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1370371 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1950 on: October 31, 2015, 06:01:33 PM »
Clarence:

In the realm of circuits an alleged over unity systems, measurements are king.  No measurements and you have nothing.   But whenever anybody asks you to make measurements you just scowl and then run away.

So, there is no "HA! HA!"

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1951 on: October 31, 2015, 06:58:09 PM »
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Clarence:

In the realm of circuits an alleged over unity systems, measurements are king.  No measurements and you have nothing.   But whenever anybody asks you to make measurements you just scowl and then run away.

So, there is no "HA! HA!"

MileHigh

Yall are STILL dwadling along with NO results!!! SO here's another  HA! HA! for you!!!!!

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1952 on: October 31, 2015, 07:46:23 PM »
Yall are STILL dwadling along with NO results!!! SO here's another  HA! HA! for you!!!!!

I am not dwadling about anything at all.  You are just being infantile, trying to pretend that I have to build something.  The fact is that I don't have to build something.

You are being non responsive about your lack of measurements when measurements are king and mean everything.  No measurements and you've got nothing.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1952 on: October 31, 2015, 07:46:23 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1953 on: October 31, 2015, 08:11:13 PM »
I am not dwadling about anything at all.  You are just being infantile, trying to pretend that I have to build something.  The fact is that I don't have to build something.

You are being non responsive about your lack of measurements when measurements are king and mean everything.  No measurements and you've got nothing.

HA! HA! AGAIN ! SLAP a meter on that one!
measure-ments are NOT king-ONLY RESULTS! HA! HA!

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1954 on: October 31, 2015, 08:26:14 PM »
HA! HA! AGAIN ! SLAP a meter on that one!
measure-ments are NOT king-ONLY RESULTS! HA! HA!

That's just more meaningless talk.  "ONLY RESULTS" indeed.  "RESULTS" ARE measurements.

You simply cannot hide away from the fact that you have no measurements, therefore you have no results.

You have a device that has a power loop.  Look at the attached diagram and see all the points where you can make measurements of the power flow in order to back up your claims.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1955 on: November 29, 2015, 11:36:55 PM »
Don t waste your time . This schema is not a ou device. It does nothing.  Let concentrate and search for anything else . Don t bother clearance at all. He has ou he s happy but not with this stuff he showed to us. And we are not happy :)

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1956 on: November 30, 2015, 11:24:50 PM »
Hello, I'm trying to replicate the Barbosa Leal (energy from the ground) circuit, but I've a problem. When I try to switch on the load connected to the output of the circuit, the automatic protection circuit from home switches off like when you do a short-circuit.
 
 What can be causing this?
 
Here there is the schematic I'm using

Probably can be the residual current switch , when it perceives the leakage current it disarms

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1958 on: December 26, 2015, 08:07:09 AM »
 Thanks for posting Yuri Likhovid video Stefan..




He is from Ukraine …. Here is some translation…. of Yuri post …
 
“According to the "Law of Lenz" (Newton's third law in electrodynamics) Magnetomotive force acting against the secondary winding magnetomotive force of the primary winding.

 If the secondary winding of the transformer no load, all consistent picture. This magnetic flux F is fully concentrated in the body core.
 

 And while we enough to understand the following paradox (we will not bother where the "Bloch wall").
 
 
 How free electrons secondary winding "know" that changes within the core flux F, because electrons (secondary winding) are outside the core, and all the magnetic field lines are concentrated within the core?” 
 
 
Here is the link to Yuri Likhovid (Юрий Лиховид) post No. 108 on
 
http://wyst.at.ua/forum/3-34-8
 
here is the explanation by Yuri…post No.
 
http://wyst.at.ua/forum/3-35-1
 
 
Yiri diagrams..and Clarence diagram from energetic forum.. btw he has a good device !!! and he is happy to share it here,

however he was attacked by a mad dog..here !! too bad !!

 below..
 
 Acca..[/font]

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1958 on: December 26, 2015, 08:07:09 AM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1959 on: December 26, 2015, 02:19:29 PM »
 HOW TO DESTROY MEMBERS WHO LACK CERTAIN UNDERSTANDING IN ELECTRONICS.
 
Here is the post by Mile High to of a Clarence device based on Barbosa /Leal device, as he (Mile High) is “an expert” in power systems and therefore the Barbosa power device is fake !!
 
Looks like we have another “So-Called Quack Buster MD Stephen Barrett” (See link below)
You have to question his motives here ?? Who is he working for !! on Overunity dot com ??
 
User2718218 4 months ago
 Djarno, I am MileHigh on overunity.com.   I started reading the thread on ou.com in April when Clarence was promoting his system.  I made a few posts that were strongly worded condemning this project and Clarence's involvement in this project because the whole thing is fake, it's not real.  B&L are just two criminal con artists that made a fake free energy system so that they could get investment money and also sell non-working demo systems to gullible people that don't understand electricity.  Clarence also has very poor knowledge about electricity.  Bro Mikey also has very poor knowledge about electricity.  I am sorry, but I have to tell you the truth. This whole thing is a silly game and some people have psychological problems.  It could be possible that seeing you do all of this useless work and wasting your money 'excites' Clarence.  I don't have the real explanation, I am not a psychologist.  However, I used to be an electrical engineer and I know what I am talking about.  This system is nonsense and impossible to work.  It's just a fantasy. I made some strongly worded postings on the thread on ou.com and when Clarence read them he got very frustrated that someone was challenging him and he "ran away" from ou.com and continued on the Energetic Forum. I am very technical and in the thread on ou.com I give an honest and blunt technical analysis of Clarence's system including analyzing his schematics and marking them up and reposting them with annotations showing where the problems are. Here is the link showing where I stated to post on the thread: http://overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/1230/#.Vb6Bn_kZa-Y I would strongly advise you to read the thread with special attention to what I say.  I talk tough because I do not like seeing people being taken advantage of by other people.  Please don't waste any more of your money on copper rods and if you don't need the inverter and can return it and get your money back that would be the smart thing to do.  - MileHigh


[/font] He has YouTube channel account that hides his Mile High Identity,  the channel is sanitized with no comments and all links removed and NO IDENTITY of “him” as Mile high.. not EVEN A VIDEO ??
 
It’s just an abstract number User2718218 on his YT channel…
 
His mission is to attack people who get too close to free energy !! He is the ENEMY.. to Free Energy..
 
Mile High is lying as he had NO posts on this thread at all,  prior to making this post….and craps here with his hatred of the two men who he knows nothing about!!
 
Here is his JUSTIFICATION for killing this debate ??  : after reading this ask your self if he is NUTS ??
 
As posted by Mile High Reply #1296 on: April 08, 2015, 02:11:05 PM
 
“Here are some issues for you to consider: Some people have a real problem with the free exchange of ideas.   They say, "Oh!  Somebody that disagrees with me is spamming or trolling!"  Or they say, "Oh!  Somebody that says something I disagree with is spamming or trolling!"  Or they say, "Oh!  Discouragement is not nice and should not be allowed!"  Or, "Oh!  I am annoyed by people that disagree with me or people that say things that I don't like and those people should go away!"
 
 There has been no spamming or trolling taking place recently in this thread.  Anyone that makes that claim is lying.  You do not have the right to redefine words for your own convenience in order to falsely make an argument or falsely impugn others.
 
 Do you want to live your life in a straigh-jacket and self-imposed censorship where people can only say things that you want them to say and you only hear things that you want to hear?  They tried that in many countries and where they are successful those countries are among the worst places on Earth to live.
 
 What happens when you become the person that is saying the "wrong things?"  What then?  Look at history and learn the lessons it is supposed to teach you.  Turn off the self-brainwashing and learn to truly think freely.”
 

 « Reply #1348 on: April 08, 2015, 11:25:41 PM »
 
“I will speak when I want.  Nor did I "pee in his punch bowl" which is just more straw man stuff from you.  I suppose the "big insult" is that I stated that Clarence doesn't understand electronics.  That is what I see, it's a fact based on evidence.  Do you get that?  It's true.  I am just doing a service for those that may not realize this. “
 

 MileHigh”
 
Here a member posts his statement about  : “Milehigh:  You come into this thread dismissing it .  Yet you admit you haven't read it all. That's just damned disrespectful and dishonest.”
 
 
 
And what does Mile High say !!
 
” I read the last four full pages worth of this discussion so I got the "flavour" of the discussion. I may be hedging my bets, but still:  What's truly disrespectful and dishonest in this thread is the people with no credibility making false claims.  Especially if they expect people to invest time and money in a project that won't work.”
 
 It’s obvious, he is THE ENEMY !! to free energy..
 
Here is Mile High self misguided justification for what he does to others.. HE IS NOT NORMAL ..
 
“The only solution is to just let people say what they want to say.  Stop being a bouncer.  There is a difference between straight no-nonsense comments about some implausible electronics fantasy and outright mean-spirited trolling.  Myself and others have made our comments for the benefit of all reading.  Some might not like reading the comments, tough luck for them.” …
 
THESE ARE YOUR WORDS … Mile High …..
 
 
“In reading the last few pages of this thread (I don't really follow this thread) I can see that Clarence and Enjoykin are engaging in fantasy talk.  Very similar to Tito.  It's just silly and assuming that they are both grown men, you wonder why they do it.
 
 I have found over the years there are some common traits that you see when this happens.  The fantasy talkers usually are not able to describe circuits with proper commonly known and understood technical concepts.  I realize that for one at least English is not his first language.  Even with that factored in, you can still see the "baby talk" when they talk about electronics.  Hence, my assumption is that both of them are just bluffing with respect to their alleged electronics knowledge and the claims that this thing allegedly works.  The other trait is the silly game of hints and teases and excuses for not showing any real data and the idea that you have to build it yourself to "prove it for yourself."  It's the usual nonsense talk that we have all seen hundreds of times before.
 
 So, don't hold your breath expecting someone to show anything special with Clarence's box, no matter how many earth grounds he drills.  It's all some kind of strange theater of the absurd.  If you want to be a bit tougher you can argue that both of them are getting some kind of mental masturbation with this.  How they get satisfaction from doing a charade like this is beyond me.”
 
http://www.health-report.co.uk/quackbuster_barrett_busted.htm
 
 
 
Looks the “so called expert” is just suffering some head injury (  some people have psychological problems  )  as he has had NO basis to post crushing destruction…
maybe he enjoys being a sociopath.. he should have limited posting as it is obvious that he has destroyed this thread for all members..

Acca..

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1960 on: December 26, 2015, 05:51:48 PM »

I have pretty much satisfied myself that Mile High has erroneous technical ideas about how electronics work.
(that is that earth currents and utility ground currents are made up of fungible (interchangeable) units called
electrons. Electrons do not loose energy but change in quantity as a vector quantity.) So some external
signal modulation is going to be required to understand just where the electron drive comes from be it natural
or manmade and some drive will almost certainly be natural. But just as certainly the majority is probably
manmade. Ground resistance will almost certainly converts major power into a major low-voltage electron
current flow but that low level flow though that can be regauged stepped up by a power transformer.

I have no intention of accepting *anything* technical that user Mile High says in the future. If
he want to act as guard dog for this thread, so be it.


I can understand why Clarence does not want to show data, because modulation on the signal could
be used to show that the majority of signal is manmade and a natural sequence of conclusions can
be drawn from there. For example the utility signal is probably modulated by the same synchronous
signal that utilities know as their average demand curve.

The problem is that without data it is impossible to easily show that the device works as magnetic amplifier
regulator and it is impossible to show that the ground array is a acting as a complex array or even an
amplifying device. So there are some technical interesting features to be understood even if the device itself
primarily picks up manmade power signals. So, I do not rate Clarence as a true friend of a technician or a friend
of technical learning *which is what this web site is supposed to be about*,even though I do rate Mile High an
enemy of it.

:S:MarkSCoffman


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1961 on: December 27, 2015, 01:17:35 AM »
Poor All/Acca:

I have to assume that you are very upset and frustrated because I asked you repeatedly to explain your aquarium videos.  I urged you to rethink what you were saying and do some basic research that a student in high school could do.  Not to mention the fact that you now have a magic Internet box on your desk and the pursuit of knowledge and enlightenment is easier than it has even been before in the history of Man.

You couldn't explain your aquarium videos, the only thing you could do was drone on about a "magnetic vortex."

So I clearly and unambiguously explained you aquarium videos with diagrams and it turns out the explanation goes back to the simple fundamental concepts behind electricity and magnetism, and a kid in grade eight could understand my explanations with a bit of supplementary background research - at their fingertips.

After my explanation you had nothing to say, and you still have nothing to say.  The only thing that you could do was repost the same incorrect stuff again.

So you must be in a tizzy.  Your posted your nonsensical "explanations" for your aquarium videos many times and finally someone with basic common sense corrected you.  It must make you frustrated.  Your attempts to demonize me say everything about you.

Djarno tried to replicate Clarence's stuff and failed.  He blew his inverter at least twice and returned it under warranty.  Perhaps he blew it a third time and they refused him.  He is GONE, he never reported anything positive.  If you think I have regrets or am ashamed for advising him to stop doing this dangerous nonsensical experiment you are wrong.

Recently BroMikey posted that Clarence has to recharge his battery between "sessions."

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But in the beginning you are correct, use 60 rods was the instruction
 and the output was enough to power many things. If you look back in
 the record you will see that the refrigerator ran for about 5 hours at
 times and the battery would begin to discharge some. He would stop
 the system and charge it
so he didn't destroy the battery and repeat
 the process over and over again getting excellent runtime powering
 devices all day. No grid power, only a battery and sinewave inverter
 as the source and I am sure you knew that.

This whole thing is "Solar Roadways" on steroids.  They talk about "where you are on the geomagnetic map" as if it really means something but they never actually state what that "something" is.  The whole thing is a farce and you will never see B&L or Clarence or anybody at all show a working system.  You will never see Clarence show any measurements or do anything related to measurements.   So I have no problem advising people to not dig up their backyards and invest a lot of money in grounding rods and inverters and other equipment.  That makes me the good guy and you the bad guy for trying to portray the good guy as the bad guy.  Suck on that.

Mscoffman:

It's not me that has "erroneous technical ideas about how electronics work."  You are trying to argue that the vast majority of members of this forum as well as all of Science and Engineering "got it wrong."  Why are you pinning this label on me?

You are the one that is out in left field and many times I have responded to your postings and you had nothing to say for a followup.  You are the one where nearly everything you post is either pie-in-the-sky or sounds technical but has one or more fatal flaws.

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1962 on: December 27, 2015, 12:25:07 PM »
I am mad with anger at MileHigh that he destroyed "CLARENCE" a 77 year old farmer, and my choice to build that device..

As he decided for me what I should DO !!  HE IS NOT MY DADDY !! HE IS A FLIPPIN NUT !!

Acca...

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1963 on: December 27, 2015, 03:52:19 PM »
After a post like that I don't think there is any doubt about who the nutter is.  I have made countless postings to educate people around here.  Instead of Djarno repeatedly blowing out his inverter one can imagine he could have made a different sort of mistake and electrocuted himself instead.  Thank God that didn't happen.  Stating that the B&L stuff is wrong and offering an alternative opinion makes me a good guy.  Stating a different opinion before you dig up your backyard and work like an ox and spend thousands of dollars on folly makes me a good guy.  Why don't you ask Clarence to try to make proper measurements just like many others on both forums try to do all the time?  He can start by asking for help from his peers.  Now you need to take a chill pill Acca.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1964 on: December 28, 2015, 04:07:42 AM »
Does anybody know if these guys have done anything recently? I am using a similar technique with a current sensor. However I am not 100% sure how they are using there's so I can only speculate that my technique is similar.

- Core

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It's EZ to get pissed on these forums. Spend more time building and experimenting and you will soon see that you simply have no time to post here on a daily basis. Not posting here on a daily basis is a good thing and rather therapeutic. Don't worry, nobody will get a working device anytime soon as all these ideas are re-hashes of failed devices. So, your not missing anything.


 

 

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