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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1731880 times)

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1875 on: April 29, 2015, 05:00:29 AM »
@MH: I think your switch is in backwards. Hint: When switch is ON, bulb should be LIT.

Try plugging the cord into one of the outlets, maybe it'll work right then.

You know that has been done already!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz-Lupbn7mc

Farmhand

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1876 on: April 29, 2015, 08:32:49 AM »
The way I see it there are very few people actually believing Clarence and those that are are the same old crew who are of no consequence anyway because of them showing "blind faith" in just about everything. Could it be that Bro Mikey is a fictitious character created to yell down the Skeptics ?

Seems pointless to argue across forums with them, I think anyone that matters already has the required information to make their own decisions.

The movement towards outing the false claims began way before you came along MileHigh. Those with some real word experience have made a big difference to this area of the "free energy" scene.

I've been questioning most things for a few years now. And I'm just one.

There is no OU but there is ways to harness free energy with paid for equipment. It is that simple. Where it gets complicated is showing people that claim free energy that they don't have any when they don't.

When I ran all my personal experiments investigating different things I was most concerned about just finding the truth for myself. I am confident that almost all the free energy and OU claims are bogus, from Tariel to B&L all BS, Lasersabre has no OU nor did Dr Stiffler or Bob Boyce ect. ect.

All BS. Someone prove me wrong.
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I've read that Scientists believe that even time began in the Big Bang, what BS that is. Considering that Energy cannot be created or destroyed, then the big bang can only have been the beginning of another cycle of the Universe. Time existed before that as well as all that went BANG.
It is so because nothing cannot go BANG.

Pure Logic.

Some apparently esteemed Scientists get so far back in the history of the Universe they come to the big bang then say all was created then we'll start there, completely bogus. So for me that is also delusion. And it is worse because it stifles thought from a position of authority..

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MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1877 on: April 29, 2015, 09:14:11 AM »
Very wise words about this B&L variant Farmhand.  Honestly, I am less "championing" than hoping for seeing the process go forward:  Propose -> demo -> test -> analyze data -> conclude -> move on.  It's because it's more "local."

But the process seems to have more or less stopped dead in it's tracks.  That always seems to happen.  It's the old project left in limbo syndrome.  Also, often replicators that get bad data will not say anything instead of sharing it.

There is still a chance that some people will go forward and produce data, including Clarence.  Then you just have to get through analyze and conclude to make it to the finish line.

But when people start asking if they can use ignition coils or use rods with dissimilar metals, that's a sign that things are falling off the rails.

The worst-case scenario is the one we all know.  "It didn't work because you didn't build it right."
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 11:41:24 AM by MileHigh »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1878 on: April 29, 2015, 12:33:56 PM »
Hi all,
my conclusion after 15years of research on the topic of free energy is that if there is indeed a kind of quick and simple way of harnessing this ''RADIANT'' energy the powers that be will sure do all in their power to keep it from us ! For the moment I am accumulating info for my parts to build an electric fat-bike that runs on compressed air, in short using compressed air as storage and generating the right amount of electric power to run a 3-5kw hub motor ! Charging won't be a big problem as every gas-station here has FREE compressed air !  ;D

So this brings me back to my old conclusion that is a simple one that can be achieved true off the shelve parts ! Below you can find a link to this idea, I would appreciate your thoughts on my (old) idea of how to get ''FREE'' energy !   ;)

http://www.view-tronics.com/mymindtwist/freeenergy/plan.html

PS. If this aluminum battery really get's available it will really change a lot if it won't be shelved like the Tochiba battery years ago !?
https://youtu.be/db_yNYEcKjo

http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/7708/toshiba-announces-super-charge-battery/

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1879 on: April 29, 2015, 12:40:40 PM »
Just so there is no doubt about the Elvis-quackery-magnetic-belt joke, this is the real quackery:

"The way I see it, the earth return is adding energy to the load. It's coiled around the #4 AWG to modulate and attract energy from the ground."

Quark! Quark!

Pirate88179

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1880 on: April 30, 2015, 02:52:09 AM »
Farmhand:

I totally agree with your post, especially about the big bang being cyclical.  Time has no beginning nor end.  Planets may come and go, same with stars...but...time always was and always will be.

Your take on the big bang answers the question I always had when I first read of it long ago.  That question is:  If this small, dense mass exploded...where did that mass come from?  Did it just spontaneously appear from nowhere?  Not likely.  It was always there and probably was the result of the universe collapsing in upon itself....AGAIN.

Well posted Sir.

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1881 on: May 04, 2015, 11:32:22 AM »
what happened with tread ,why stop from 30.4

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1882 on: May 04, 2015, 10:06:02 PM »
"If this small, dense mass exploded...where did that mass come from? "
Exactly! We have to ask ourselves how is mass formed. Waveforms? Thermal? From what Ive read nothing moves at "Absolute" zero. That leads me to speculate the coldness of empty space coalesced and contracted to a point of intense density and exploded. Its warmer  inside snow than outside so cold can make heat.  That interior temperature may have led to the formation of hydrogen causing an explosion. Like dropping a match into liquid hydrogen but on a much grander scale. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction! :o

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1883 on: May 05, 2015, 05:07:28 AM »
what happened with tread ,why stop from 30.4

Clarence is not providing any data.  There are several people on the EF thread that have openly expressed their disappointment with this situation.  They also mentioned the issue of the work and expense required to replicate without any hard data as proof that it actually works.  Therefore Clarence has pretty much withdrawn from that thread.  He lost is 'glamour boy' reputation.  People have pretty much run out of ideas.  Plus the fact that the whole slef-looping thing is a dead and disproven concept.

It's possible that this whole thing was launched because Clarence saw it working with a fresh battery and then simply got carnied away and he started telling big fish stories.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1884 on: May 12, 2015, 08:43:00 PM »
Perhaps something to hope for and get some talk started about this !?  ;)
R-Walker Free Energy Self-sustaining Electric Motor Bike from Mexico
https://youtu.be/z_dxUgOTVOs

Pirate88179

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1885 on: May 13, 2015, 03:26:57 AM »
Perhaps something to hope for and get some talk started about this !?  ;)
R-Walker Free Energy Self-sustaining Electric Motor Bike from Mexico
https://youtu.be/z_dxUgOTVOs

It is not self-sustaining and there is a topic where this is being discussed.

I believe the problem was due to being lost in translation, which often occurs.  It still appears to be pretty efficient, which is a good thing
by itself.

Bill

Topic here:  http://overunity.com/15764/r-walker-selfsustaining-free-energy-bike-from-mexico/#.VVKokJOm2FM

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1886 on: May 13, 2015, 04:05:56 AM »
  After 5 months running time off of the same battery?  So, when does it become not self sustaining?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1887 on: May 13, 2015, 05:24:40 AM »
  After 5 months running time off of the same battery?  So, when does it become not self sustaining?

I have 5 years running off the same battery in my car.  That does not mean O.U.  Read the other topic and you will see that there are some translation problems with the news reports.  A lot of conflicting info has been flying about.  They talk about how fast they can recharge the batteries, which you would not need to do if self-sustaining.

Check it out as more info becomes available.  Oh, it also has solar cells.

Bill


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1889 on: May 13, 2015, 07:18:13 AM »
   "Notice that the students said they have gone five months without discharging the battery."

    The rest is speculation.  As that also means, that they ran it for that long without ever having to do any additional charging.
    Time will tell.
    But, why do we need to assume something doesn't work as shown, until it's proven that it does?
    Can't we just take it with a grain of sand until proven one way or the other? 
    You ever wonder how long it will take before even Tesla car/house batteries are a thing of the past? And, no batteries needed, becoming the thing of the present.