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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1415141 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1830 on: April 26, 2015, 06:54:59 PM »
And Grum seems to be a really nice guy.  But he is not "doing experiments about energy coming up from the ground" or however you worded that.  He is just making observations that you can measure a voltage when you stick some metal rods into the ground.

Let me put it this way:  Without ever having done it, and without ever having given it much thought, and without ever having seriously contemplated doing it, I would expect to measure some voltage if I stuck two similar metal rods in the ground.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1831 on: April 26, 2015, 06:59:44 PM »
MH
You have real issues calling people LIARS with out Hard evidence.
I've often told you this is quite Risky and dangerous behavior .

and you retort that saying such is a threat...??

not at all a threat ,just very risky behavior...we can't even write Bedini's name at
OUR Forum because Peter was threatened with a lawsuit because of mostly  your Risky
behavior .

how many times you gonna throw those dice in somebody elses house.
where THEY have to pay for YOUR risky behavior..?
that One example should have been a big wake up call....

and similar things have happened here with other "Risky business"[lawsuits threatened]

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1832 on: April 26, 2015, 07:10:44 PM »
MH
You have real issues calling people LIARS with out Hard evidence.
I've often told you this is quite Risky and dangerous behavior .

and you retort that saying such is a threat...??

not at all a threat ,just very risky behavior...we can't even write Bedini's name at
OUR Forum because Peter was threatened with a lawsuit because of mostly  your Risky
behavior .

how many times you gonna throw those dice in somebody elses house.
where THEY have to pay for YOUR risky behavior..?
that One example should have been a big wake up call....

and similar things have happened here with other "Risky business"[lawsuits threatened]

That's a nice diversionary tactic to avoid everything else just discussed.  Google "Bedini" and look around without bias and see what you find.  He just didn't like the fact that I analyzed the "10 coiler" for what it really was because perhaps he sold one or two fewer units.

Get your common sense in order.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.  If Clarence makes extraordinary claims and offers no evidence to support those claims, then what can you conclude?  If you know that there is no rational reason that his claims can possibly be true, then what can you conclude?  When in one year, there is nothing then what can you conclude?

Just use your wits and put two and two together and what word nicely summarizes Clarence's pitch?

I am sure that you will find that dreaded word used elsewhere in many threads discussing many pitches so why are you focusing on me?

Work on your common sense skills.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1832 on: April 26, 2015, 07:10:44 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1833 on: April 26, 2015, 08:01:19 PM »
Diversion???
It's exactly the reason I behave myself in another mans house..
And I always treat others the way I would want to be treated.
The word LIAR has hardly ever passed betwixt my Lips...(strong medicine where I come from)


yet you keep demanding I do this ..
Call people LIARS with out hard evidence...
GDS,Solar Hydrogen Tech ...etc etc etc.
WHowever meets your fancy. ??? ?


It's not how I roll and most definitely not a diversion tactic,more a survival skill if anything.
And no that's not a threat just my experience.



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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1834 on: April 26, 2015, 08:01:28 PM »
And Grum seems to be a really nice guy.  But he is not "doing experiments about energy coming up from the ground" or however you worded that.  He is just making observations that you can measure a voltage when you stick some metal rods into the ground.

Let me put it this way:  Without ever having done it, and without ever having given it much thought, and without ever having seriously contemplated doing it, I would expect to measure some voltage if I stuck two similar metal rods in the ground.
I am not making this posting to start a brawl.  Just giving you things as I see them.  It doesn't mean that there are not any more possible discoveries or innovations, it just means that you can't get energy from dirt.


MileHigh


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1834 on: April 26, 2015, 08:01:28 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1835 on: April 26, 2015, 08:19:22 PM »
Go ahead A.King21, show your work.

You are just copy/pasting me and trying to imply that I am contradicting myself.

You need to put content and context into what you are saying.   Let's hear you make an argument and and put some of your own thoughts and your own rationale into what you want to say.  Let's hear you make some logical points with substance and original content.

The floor is yours.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1836 on: April 26, 2015, 08:28:30 PM »
I don't have to try.




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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1837 on: April 26, 2015, 08:38:51 PM »
it just means that you can't get energy from dirt.

MileHigh

MileHigh/a.king21: If that is true about the Earth, then what do you think Nikola Tesla meant
when he said,"... the ground is "a vast reservoir of negative electricity."

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1838 on: April 26, 2015, 08:47:46 PM »
That's a cop-out and a fail.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1838 on: April 26, 2015, 08:47:46 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1839 on: April 27, 2015, 09:13:50 AM »
You can't compare nanowatts or picowatts to hundreds of watts.  Order of magnitude rules.

I just plucked a few BroMikey quotes with highlights:

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Electrons will love this system. Send a few down the hole setting up more or less a static field and as the system is called upon not only will the electrons you sent down the hole come back, but more will piggy back from these processes.

I do not know what the value is by proportion but the requirement is to send a small amount down the holes to stimulate the cultivation of electron collection.

So in BroMikey's imagination there is some kind of "happening" going on down in the ground.   Electrons from above (the system) enter the ground from one pipe and pass "the happening" and as they go back up the ground return pipe the cool electrons from "the happening" join up with the returning electrons.  The gathering of the tribes.  That means "more current" on the way back up and that is equal to "more energy" and the free energy.

It's like a farmer's field of electrons down there to harvest from Mother Earth.

The problem is that it doesn't work like that.  If one amp goes down one pipe, then one amp goes up the other pipe.

Then relative to what BroMikey is imagining, that sets off a chain of logical falsehoods that brings bring down the entire structure.  Disaster!

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1840 on: April 27, 2015, 03:43:59 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1842 on: April 27, 2015, 04:41:08 PM »
Hartmann grid:  http://erdmagnetfeld.pimath.de/global_grids.html

Another stupid thing to say, with a stupid nonsensical link.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1843 on: April 27, 2015, 05:29:36 PM »
Another stupid thing to say, with a stupid nonsensical link.


Let me put it this way:  Without ever having done it, and without ever having given it much thought, and without ever having seriously contemplated doing it, I would expect to measure some voltage if I stuck two similar metal rods in the ground.


I am not making this posting to start a brawl.  Just giving you things as I see them.  It doesn't mean that there are not any more possible discoveries or innovations, it just means that you can't get energy from dirt.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1844 on: April 27, 2015, 06:02:32 PM »
Okay, so you are saying that you don't have enough brains to make a distinction between sensing voltage with a one-megaohm input voltmeter from a feeble source with a 250K ohm output impedance and sensing voltage from a source that can supply 100 watts.

 

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