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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1377597 times)

Offline ulisel

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1905 on: July 06, 2015, 01:33:11 AM »
Dear friends,
Someone could help me?...I would be very grateful if someone arrange the construction manual of Barbosa and Leal device.I don't have any idea how to make the toroid.

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Offline Farmhand

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1906 on: July 07, 2015, 03:15:01 AM »
   "Notice that the students said they have gone five months without discharging the battery."

    The rest is speculation.  As that also means, that they ran it for that long without ever having to do any additional charging.
    Time will tell.
    But, why do we need to assume something doesn't work as shown, until it's proven that it does?
    Can't we just take it with a grain of sand until proven one way or the other? 
    You ever wonder how long it will take before even Tesla car/house batteries are a thing of the past? And, no batteries needed, becoming the thing of the present.

It's all in the choice of words used and maybe the translation. They say it hasn't been discharged in 5 months. They say nothing about charging, but it has solar panels on it and if it does regenerative charging or some kind of KERS = Kinetic Energy Recovery System, then all they would need to do is carry the tiny bike up the hills and roll down them using the over 2000 RPM generated at the wheel while rolling down the hill to recharge the battery. I think they would definitely carry it up the steep hills because I don't think it could carry even a child up a steep hill.

Considering that a pushbike with a motor would be more useful, no need to stop and carry those.

They don't mean no recharging at all they just mean the battery hasn't become fully discharged and they have not applied an external charger. They certainly did not say they they didn't carry the bike uphills or only travel one way in a two trip where one way is mostly down and the other way is mostly up.

Basically if it was true they would be rich by now. And they do not verify their claims. They just claim. No evidence. No full explanation, just enough to get the attention of the hopeful.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1907 on: July 10, 2015, 08:10:50 PM »
HI MADAMA. PLEASE TELL ME FIRST WHAT COUNTRY YOU WANT THIS PROJECT DONE. THE BEST DEAL IS A WOOD GASIFICATION. IT CONSIST OF WOOD BEING BURNT IN AN AIRTIGHT THICK METAL CONTAINER..THEN THE FILTERED FUMES IS INJECTED INTO THE PETROL ELECTRIC POWER GENERATOR..IF THE PEOPLE THERE ARE GOOD WELDER EG AFRICANS ARE THE BEST WELDERS..THEN IT COULD BE EASILY ASSEMBLED THERE .. OF COURSE YOU NEED A CONSTANT SOURCE OF WOOD. THIS IS GOOD, CREATE EMPLOYMENT..ALSO BY PRODUCT IS POTASH FERTILIZER.. AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU CAN ORGANISED A METHANE BIO GAS FROM ANIMAL WASTE AND HUMAN WASTE PLUS MULCH UP BIOMASS YOU ARE LAUGHING 24 HOURS OF ELECTRICITY..BYPRODUCT OF BIO GAS IS BEST FERTILIZER..THE WHOLE DEAL CAN BE PURCHASE FAIRLY CHEAP FROM CHINA ALIBABA.COM..MY SUGGESTIONS IS DO NOT GET ONE SYSTEM GET 3 SO IF ONE BREAKS DOWN  OR BEING MAINTAIN YOU STILL CAN GENERATE ELECTRICITY..PEACE LOVE AND MORE PEACE.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1907 on: July 10, 2015, 08:10:50 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1908 on: July 11, 2015, 04:14:33 AM »
THEN YOU SHOULD GO SOLAR..ALL THAT IS DISCUSS HERE WILL HAPPEN BUT HAS NOT HAPPEN YET.. THAT IS FREE ENERGY AS WE SHOULD KNOW IT..THE BEST BET FROM HERE IS EARTH CAPTOR FROM ENERGETIC FORUM..BARBOSA AND NEAL DEVICE REPLICATED BY
CLARENCE POST329.. AS CLARENCE SAID ONE NEED A SUPER DOOPLE GROUND CONNECTION AND AS ADVISED BY CLARENCE IS TO GET A MAGNETO-FIELD OF YOUR AREA OF OPERATION OR LEY LINES OR EARTH CURRENT. THE BASIS OF THIS DEVICE IS TO PUMP EXTRA  ELECTRON FROM THE GROUND BECAUSE THE EARTH IS A SUPER MASSIVE CAPACITOR.. THE BEST WAY TO FIND OUT IF YOUR AREA IS SUIT IF IF IT RECEIVE A LOT OF LIGHTENING STRIKES THROUGH OUT THE YEAR.. GOOD LUCK BUT PLEASE REPLICATE IT EXACTLY AS CLARENCE..

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1909 on: July 27, 2015, 09:58:50 PM »
Hi all this might be the real deal !  8)
https://youtu.be/mB1Wtve7aug

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1910 on: July 28, 2015, 12:14:19 AM »
Hi all this might be the real deal !  8)
https://youtu.be/mB1Wtve7aug

Hah, you're funny. THE BATTERIES ARE NEVER DISCONNECTED. So we have Yet Another "Looping" Free Energy Device that won't work unless it has two big BATTERIES connected to it!  And as usual the claimant Marc Belanger is making all kinds of false claims in the video. In a seven minute video taken with a cellphone.

Sit back, Marc, and let's see if the thing is still running after 24 hours. It won't be, the batteries will be flat and it won't continue to run.

The guy is another blowhard "Saviour of Mankind" with his "PELEX" device that he won't be releasing to the public. How nice of him to worry about the billion people his device would put out of work. Of course he's not worried at all about the thousands of innocent children who starve to death or die from dysentery EVERY DAY because they can't get access to clean water or good food.  People like this make me sick.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1911 on: July 28, 2015, 02:07:53 AM »
Thanks for calling me funny ! At least this leaves me some tolerance ! LOL Anyway only saw the video quick but whatever people say I am going to give it a try ! meaning his first video as they say you never know ! LOL  ;D 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1912 on: July 28, 2015, 04:58:02 AM »
Hah, you're funny. THE BATTERIES ARE NEVER DISCONNECTED. So we have Yet Another "Looping" Free Energy Device that won't work unless it has two big BATTERIES connected to it!  And as usual the claimant Marc Belanger is making all kinds of false claims in the video. In a seven minute video taken with a cellphone.

Sit back, Marc, and let's see if the thing is still running after 24 hours. It won't be, the batteries will be flat and it won't continue to run.

The guy is another blowhard "Saviour of Mankind" with his "PELEX" device that he won't be releasing to the public. How nice of him to worry about the billion people his device would put out of work. Of course he's not worried at all about the thousands of innocent children who starve to death or die from dysentery EVERY DAY because they can't get access to clean water or good food.  People like this make me sick.

TK:

You should know by now that all free energy devices require batteries, many of them require multiple, very large batteries.  Oh, and you also need a bunch of clip leads scattered about in an unorganized manner.  This appears to help the output.

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1913 on: July 28, 2015, 02:23:46 PM »
@Pirate88197. It is also worth remembering that when experimenting batteries act as a good buffer against miss matched frequencies, voltages and currents. Also preventing back feeds in the circuit.

Regards
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1914 on: July 30, 2015, 07:09:55 AM »
guys, did anyone succeed in replicating this?
if yest , i would need their help in my project feel free to contact me thru pm or here

Hello, guys and madama.  I have replicated this device without a ground connection.
Please, see this passage of mr. Patrick J. Kelly.

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Barbosa (Leal) in his patent reports the following:

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My understanding of the "Anti-Lenz effect" you can read and see here.

http://wyst.at.ua/forum/3-35-1

If you have an interest, I can translate into English and comment on this chart.
My e-mail:  graviton_kiev@meta.ua
Best regards.






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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1915 on: August 01, 2015, 06:22:26 AM »
Hi, "madama".
I ve got an e-mail from "p.. j..".
I understand You wrote it?
« Last Edit: August 01, 2015, 09:11:40 AM by Yuri_L »

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Offline Yuri_L

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1916 on: August 01, 2015, 06:54:26 AM »
Everyone knows the "official version" that explains the working principle of the transformer with ferromagnetic core which is made of the transformer-steel or ferrite.

Here is shown a schematically drawn transformer on Fig.1, which has a primary winding and a secondary winding located opposite each other.
At the primary winding is an alternate voltage U1 and we have got (an alternate) current I1 in the primary winding.
And where is the current, there is always a magnetic field.
Magnetic flux Ф1, created by primary winding, is pulsing in ferromagnetic core and somehow affects the electrons of the secondary winding.   It provides EMF U2 at the secondary winding.

We suggest that EMF U2 occurs because the magnetic field lines (of the flux Ф1) cross the  secondary winding turns and free electrons in the latter are accumulating on the one terminal of the secondary winding (according to the regulations of the hand of Homo Sapiens) and it creates a potential difference EMF.

But it is  a fallacy (misbelief).

In fact the magnetic flux Ф1 is almost fully concentrated in the body core.

And this is enough for us to ask the following question.

How free electrons of secondary winding "know" that flux Ф1 is changing inside the core,
because electrons (of secondary winding) are outside the core, and all the magnetic field lines are concentrated in the core?

Offline Yuri_L

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1917 on: August 01, 2015, 07:11:58 AM »
Theory is explaining to us: when the load  is connected to secondary winding , the picture is changing somewhat and already looks like this (Fig.2)
Magnetomotive force of the secondary winding is acting against to the magnetomotive force of the primary winding
according to the "Lenz Law" (Newton's third Law in electrodynamics).
In secondary winding occurs an alternate current I2, that is creating a secondary flux Ф2 which acts against Ф1.
This flux Ф2 is undesirable for us and we have to compensaste it.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1918 on: August 01, 2015, 08:29:50 AM »
During my researches I’ve found the following regularities:
1) around the magnetic core (having alternated magnetic flux) exists a kind of a potential field that acts outside the core on free electrons of the environment (windings);
(partially this my hypothesis is confirmed by Aharonov-Bohm experiments).

2) Fluxes from “partnered winding” in certain conditions are not deducted but repel each other.
(I accept your donations for my researches  :) )

Aharonov-Bohm effect is a phenomenon in which an electrically charged particle is affected by an unknown field, despite being confined to a region in which the magnetic field  B is zero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov%E2%80%93Bohm_effect

You can see in Fig.3 the consequence  of Aharonov-Bohm effect in a transformer core.

This  phenomenon  outside the  transformer core is a fully “mirror-analog” of Hans Christian Ørsted’s  experiment – Fig.4.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Christian_%C3%98rsted

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1919 on: August 01, 2015, 09:39:46 AM »
Now we can redraw the Barbosa-Leal device as an auto-transformer and  to have the following circuit – Fig.5. 
Here the loop is actig opposite to the inductor and both  are  forming together an asymmetric “partnerred coils”.

 

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