Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal (Read 1745822 times)

Farmhand · « **Reply #1140 on:** April 04, 2015, 01:46:25 AM »

Quote from: Hoppy on April 03, 2015, 09:24:06 PM

Thanks for your reply.

So, you have 120.4V between your earth ground array and your mains grid neutral! That would suggest to me that what you take as a grid neutral connection is in fact live - a phase! Your grid neutral to earth ground voltage measurement should be very low.

I second that, The voltage between the neutral and the ground should be very low as the neutral is connected to ground at the
fuse box as far as I can tell. It is like that so that the neutral line is held at or near ground potential. If you measure 120 volts
between the neutral and ground you either have a serious problem with the way the house is wired or you are actually
measuring the phase/active to ground.

Usually a portable inverter is an isolated supply and there is no neutral as neither conductor is connected to the ground itself.
Which makes them dangerous to experiment with without an inline RCD.

With an inline RCD any mismatch of current between the two power wires will trip the RCD.

The RCD can detect if current is diverted from the main current loop through the ground which is what can fool the meters.

If I remove the GFI/RCD from the house I could probably steal power that way, by confusing the meter with no reuturn current.

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Ultimately all that matters is. Can the system be replicated ? Is there an accurate schematic ?

If a well drawn and accurate schematic is made, then many people should be able to see how it works or what the oversight is.

If a well drawn schematic is made and it can be replicated all will sing the praises to the maker of the drawing.

If it works why not draw it and videotape it thoroughly while working for the benefit of mankind ?

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shylo · « **Reply #1141 on:** April 04, 2015, 02:04:56 AM »

Hi Clarence, Do the rods have to be 8' long, and is 3' the final verdict?
Can you or did you measure each individual rod voltage as you placed them?
They must put something out.
Not sure if it's Stubblefield, or Cook that i wired, but I stuck it in the ground and it gives a third of a volt.
It was the steel core with iron , cotton layer, copper.
artv

ramset · « **Reply #1142 on:** April 04, 2015, 02:24:44 AM »

Farmhand
here is all you requested
post 1057 thru 1064

http://www.overunity.com/13721/energy-from-the-ground-self-powered-generator-by-barbosa-and-leal/msg444124/#msg444124

respectfully
Chet K

tinman · « **Reply #1143 on:** April 04, 2015, 03:18:03 AM »

Come on guy's.
Go back and look at the schematic on post 1077-->have a good look at it.Do you not know what you are looking at???.

The so called captor transformer setup is a nothing system.
The rest of the system is a loop loss system,where the ground rods are acting like a resistor. Do you not understand as to why Clarence is getting a higher voltage the more ground rods he add's to the system-->he is reducing the resistance on the neutral side of the system.

Quote FarmHand-

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If it works why not draw it and videotape it thoroughly while working for the benefit of mankind ?

You know the answer to that as well as i do FarmHand.

tinman · « **Reply #1144 on:** April 04, 2015, 03:35:59 AM »

I have removed the captor loop transformer from the circuit,so as you can see a little more clearly what you have. As you can see,the ground rods are nothing more than a resistor on the neutral side. The more ground rods you add,the more you decrease the resistance-the more power avaliable to complete the loop.

tinman · « **Reply #1145 on:** April 04, 2015, 03:47:52 AM »

Below is a pic of the captor transformer.
If windings A,B,C and D are in phase,then you have a nothing transformer that will just sit there and hum,and get a little warm after a while-->just a waste of power. If one of those windings are wound out of phase,then you have a big heater-->and probably smoke.

Winding F is a nothing winding,and wont be doing much at all--> maybe good for hooking the scope to to see the AC signal.

Clarence · « **Reply #1146 on:** April 04, 2015, 05:07:04 AM »

Quote from: a.king21 on April 04, 2015, 01:42:20 AM

I am trying to eliminate the last possible conventional explanation.
As you stated before, many farmers use electrified fences in your area.
Also the known system of Single Wire Earth Return (SWER) is common in rural areas.

It is a little known fact, but the earth is an excellent conductor. I have for instance re-routed a spark gap through
2 earth rods, and it worked just fine. I have also used very low power ie an ne2 bulb powered by a capacitor and routed it
through 2 earth rods. There is usually a little resistance to current flow at first then (I assume) the earth forms an ionic pathway.

So BOTTOM LINE:

It may work in your area, but it may not work in other countries or in urban areas.
That's what I am trying to figure out.

By measuring voltage between earth rods with your system switched off, you should have no electrical flow to speak of - maybe half a volt or so.

Hello a.King21,

didn't hear from you right away, so when I finished the series connections of the new 17 rods I had installed I just went ahead and made a quick check on this isolated string of rods.
I already figured what it would read from my WAY BACK data I had filed upstairs ( ME ). but I went ahead and redid it anyway. using a DVMM (FLUKE) the only way you can read anything
is to connect red or black to one end of the connection wire and the other probe right straight into EARTH. red into earth gives a + dc volt reading of around .200 volts and stays there - nothing new about that! black into earth gives a - dc volt reading of .425 - .475 and stays there, nothing new about that either! same old story !!!! also this area is a two wire system and NOT a SWER system.

I decided to go recheck the 30 rod looped series for the hell of it. SAME READINGS!!! whether its series open ended or series looped configuration it does not make a difference.
however do not connect a open ended series string to a closed loop series and ever expect to get a reading!!! HA! HA!

BTW: I see the same old members keep ringing their bells about their stuck between their ears drivel concerning a mains scenario residential DRAMA concerning neutral to ground problems!!!

I know I stated it MANY times that my unit HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY CRAPPY KIND OF UTILITIES MAINS AT ALL!! their ole danger- warning- drama has played once too many times simply because its OUT OF CONTEXT!!! you would think they could catch on after awhile! Oh well, I have learned to ignore their propaganda for certain.

If you think of anything else might be able to help with just post and say!

Thanks again!
Cheers.

Clarence

Clarence · « **Reply #1147 on:** April 04, 2015, 05:10:29 AM »

Quote from: tinman on April 04, 2015, 03:35:59 AM

I have removed the captor loop transformer from the circuit,so as you can see a little more clearly what you have. As you can see,the ground rods are nothing more than a resistor on the neutral side. The more ground rods you add,the more you decrease the resistance-the more power avaliable to complete the loop.

WHAT A SAD SAD JOKE!!!!

Clarence

a.king21 · « **Reply #1148 on:** April 04, 2015, 05:16:07 AM »

Clarence: Wow. That's a result. Very encouraging.
Keep up the good work.
We will have to figure out how it works however.
Some of us want to build a smaller system to check out the technology before we spend thousands of
dollars.

If you have a small 75 watt inverter it would be fantastic if you could duplicate your system on a smaller scale.
I know it may seem like a step backwards, but just the opposite will be the case as more and more of
us replicate and figure out what is going on.

Anyway, congratulations on the breakthrough.

tinman · « **Reply #1149 on:** April 04, 2015, 05:54:58 AM »

Quote from: Clarence on April 04, 2015, 05:10:29 AM

WHAT A SAD SAD JOKE!!!!

Clarence

Looking forward to your video of your self running device.

Clarence · « **Reply #1150 on:** April 04, 2015, 06:03:40 AM »

Quote from: a.king21 on April 04, 2015, 05:16:07 AM

Clarence: Wow. That's a result. Very encouraging.
Keep up the good work.
We will have to figure out how it works however.
Some of us want to build a smaller system to check out the technology before we spend thousands of
dollars.

If you have a small 75 watt inverter it would be fantastic if you could duplicate your system on a smaller scale.
I know it may seem like a step backwards, but just the opposite will be the case as more and more of
us replicate and figure out what is going on.

Anyway, congratulations on the breakthrough.

Hello a.King21,

thanks for your support Sir!
I am going to be off of the forum for awhile in order to catch up on all of my to dos.
I understand your desire to replicate at a smaller design level but I don't think it would work out for many reasons.
I believe while I am off that it would be better to finish the 120/240 adaptation for this KW module I started with.
proving all of its merits would then remove the risk for those who desire to duplicate it.
also it will give all of those coming out of the wood work time to drown themselves in their own juice which they most certainly will.
if at any time you need anything else just post and I will see your I D pop up on my PC and I will look and see.

again - many thanks.
Cheers.

Clarence

tinman · « **Reply #1151 on:** April 04, 2015, 06:36:34 AM »

Quote from: Clarence on April 04, 2015, 06:03:40 AM

Hello a.King21,

thanks for your support Sir!
I am going to be off of the forum for awhile in order to catch up on all of my to dos.
I believe while I am off that it would be better to finish the 120/240 adaptation for this KW module I started with.
proving all of its merits would then remove the risk for those who desire to duplicate it.
also it will give all of those coming out of the wood work time to drown themselves in their own juice which they most certainly will.
if at any time you need anything else just post and I will see your I D pop up on my PC and I will look and see.

again - many thanks.
Cheers.

Clarence

And away we go when crunch time is at hand.

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I understand your desire to replicate at a smaller design level but I don't think it would work out for many reasons.

Of course it wont work out,and we also will never see a video of this device self running-->the chicken has flown the coop,as the to do's are far more important than showing the world the first self powered/self running device with excess energy.

Yes-->WHAT A JOKE.

forest · « **Reply #1152 on:** April 04, 2015, 08:45:26 AM »

Clarence , yours setup reminds me Sokolovsky transformer made from 3 coils and a C part of transformer core. I believe this captor is where the energy is multiplied by the same effect. Part of current goes straight to the load and part induce secondary current which apparently attract also some electrons from ground. They meet at load and give total power rise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fk4DOA3viE (I cannot find schematic right now)

perexime · « **Reply #1153 on:** April 04, 2015, 10:43:49 AM »

Thanks Timan for coming to this free energy forum to help and encourage us
Your kind words are much appreciated

Hoppy · « **Reply #1154 on:** April 04, 2015, 11:17:16 AM »

Quote from: ramset on April 03, 2015, 10:47:25 PM

Hoppy
if Clarence is not connected to his neutral or mains "in any way"
why would that be a problem for this completely isolated experiment??
[all other obvious concerns aside if its truly reading a phase in the house]

??
respectfully
Chet K

Hi ramset,

As I previously commented, I fully understand that Clarence is not connected to a mains supply and is running his load from a battery. Nonetheless, I was interested in knowing the voltage between his ground rod array and his grid neutral.

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