hi Tinman .. what you say is quite true, the arguments you put forward are perfectly valid I don't have a problem with that.  I think Clarence wants to start with a blank sheet of paper. Often the things we have already been taught and preconceived ideas get in the way of our following simple instructions.  Do you remember when you first started working with computers? for me it was the early 1970's, remember how illogical much of it seemed to be, and 'Logic' .. it took me a while to get my head round that, I thought it all seemed totally illogical.  young children learn fast because they know nothing, they take what they are given and accept it, it's the fastest way forward at that time in their development. .. ... I think Clarence wants us to start with a blank sheet and put to one side what we already know because it will get in the way of achieving the objective, it's his game, he makes the rules, we decide if we want to play.
What he is proposing to start with costs just a little but will provide the 'hands-on' understanding for what is to come.  If we already understood what he wants us to know we would be doing it instead of talking about it.  I include myself in this .. we are all guilty at some time of not seeing the elephant in the room. Just like you I am putting forward the other side of the argument. Let everyone choose which path to take maybe one of them will be good, nothing ventured nothing gained, good luck to all.

I agree-not all what we are taught are correct. But there comes a time when you will come across devices that are nothing out of the ordinary-->and this device fits that bill. Would you really buy a car without first seeing it run,and taking it for a test drive?. And why oh why is it a must that ferrite cores are used in sted of laminated steel cores at these low frequencies. Infact,steel laminated cores would be far better in this situation and at these low frequencies--Clarence will not even provide a reason for having to use ferrite cored transformers.It is things like this that should start the alarm bells ringing. I have tested steel laminated and ferrite toroid transformers of the same size side by side up to 7.5KHz,and the steel ones win hands down up until that frequency--so why the ferrite insistance?.

And why the refusal of a simple test run before we all have to start spending money?.
The answer is-he wants followers to adhear to his ruels.
And he knows that his device will not perform as expected or claimed.

i am an old man too.

hi Cheors .. thanks for posting the B&L schematic again .. the thing I noticed first time I saw it a couple of years ago, and the one thing no one ever talks about but which I believe is very important is the 'trigger' .. seems to be a rotating magnetic 'Hall effect' trigger designed to set the pulse operating frequency in the system. Other people seem to have had good results from tuning the frequency, even Kapenadze with the basic spark generator. The Andrea Rossi device and many others use frequency tuning before they can can get results.  I believe this is important or it wouldn't be included. I don't say this is the only way to achieve the optimum operating frequency, but not achieving the good frequency may be the reason why so many people have failed to replicate the B&L device. ?? sk

Skibrat,

I don't have a problem when someone wants to demonstrates leadership in a project, infact
I appreciate it. My problem is when people have a predefined set of things they absolutely
will not consider doing for no valid reason while excersizing this leadership in other areas
of the project.  Too often it seems that a quick cleanly OU validation appears right
downstream from the stuff that can't possibly be done, for no valid reason. Don't forget
this is an educational opportunity where we show younger people how to do certain thing
that they may have never seen in other forums.

For example, simply because Clarence never intends to sell power back to the utility doesn't
mean nobody never intends to sell power back to a utility. Wouldn't it make sense for
Clarence to modify his long held belief to and "effectively" never sell any power back
to the utility so we cleanly demonstrate what is possible and what is not? The same thing
can be said about reducing AHour storage capacity of the system to low but resonable
levels and show the system continues to holds up for a reasonable long amount of time.

People say.."Why has it taken so long to make any OU systems available?"  Well the above
is a big part of the reason. Whether, your you, John Tilly or A. Rossi people expect to have a
*Unitary* demonstrtion of new OU technology and have their questions answered in one
spot and not have to restart, restart and restart again and again the project under new
leadership. I trust either user tinman or lasersaber will show the entire picture as they
have done in their past project, if they complete this one.

I am going to continue to look with respect in the future to people who tend to show the whole
picture, and askance to people who portray partial pictures, no matter what they contain.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Hello everyone
Run out from the maze is simple. Buy ticket to Iowa and check device from the first hand.
The TRUTH will show herself.
Reg,Enjoykin

Clarence is not located in Iowa. You just made that up.

Until a week ago or so, Clarence was still doing tests with his device by connecting it up to the
mains and powering loads like his microwave oven, and saying it could do amazing things, but the way the
device is wired to earth ground that would obviously just be a ground loop back to the mains neutral that was likely 
providing much of the power, when using the mains as the power source. I have seen no specific details from Clarence as
of yet that Clarence's replication of the B&L device can keep the battery fully charged for any considerable length of time when
the device is powered only from a battery and inverter. Clarence has said he is in the process of installing more ground rods and
he will do more tests using only the battery and inverter as the power source once he gets all the new ground rods installed.
However in the last day or two Clarence seems to have gone off into the deep end a fair bit and started going on about how
he apparently sees himself as a 'leader of the pack', and how he will only post more info on his device if people do tests
exactly as he dictates, and that sort of thing.    It is not looking very good at this point.
All the best...

try looking!
all the best!
Clarence

Hi Clarence. Thanks, but I don't see any transformer in that photo you posted.

Does anyone have a link to a video or photo that shows how the secondary on the B&L single transformer
arrangement is wound? I have an idea of how this might have been done, but I wonder if there are
any photos or videos that show any of B&L's transformers and their winding arrangement at all?
All the best...

I don't care if this gizmo won't run 24/7 at 100% non stop. Nothing made by man will do that.

If it will run my household necessities for a day or two before it runs down that 1 battery, well that would be just fine with me.

Mack

If it will run my household necessities for a day or two before it runs down that 1 battery, well that would be just fine with me.

Hi MadMack. There are no confirmations so far that I have seen that it can do even that however.
All the best...

Hi Clarence. OK, I see that Ariovaldo apparently did some tests with an actual B&L single transformer device.
I don't know why you couldn't have just said that.
I will go back and read through Ariovaldo's posts here when I get a chance and review what he was able to
find out in his tests.

P.S. It looks like Ariovaldo could not get the device to work and came to the conclusion that the device was
most likely a scam? Ariovaldo, are you out there?

All the best...

read and dig deep and you most probably will be shocked when you find out.

Clarence