Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months! (Read 187955 times)

Groundloop · « **Reply #105 on:** September 06, 2010, 09:33:05 PM »

Rosemary,

The easiest way to make a low friction rotor is to disassemble
a computer fan. Take out the electronics, the toroid magnet and
cut of the fan blades. Glue Neo magnets on the outside of remaining hub.
If you use a fan that have two ball bearings then apply some lubricant
to the bearings before assembling the fan again. (Not needed on a new fan.)

Groundloop.

dllabarre · « **Reply #106 on:** September 06, 2010, 10:09:10 PM »

Whenever I search for iron/metal rods they all have code numbers.
What is soft iron: "1018 Cold Rolled Steel Round Bar"?
Or something else.
I'm not looking for a core thats "good enough".
I want to buy what works "best" for the core and if it's too expensive what's "second best".

What size (AWG) copper cotton insulated wire and iron wire to buy and where to buy if possible?

Thank you,
DonL

Omnibus · « **Reply #107 on:** September 06, 2010, 10:21:04 PM »

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 06, 2010, 12:13:43 PM

Am I clear? Not actually Omnibus. I'm actually rather amused at your description of yourself as an intellectual. Shouldn't you show us some evidence of more than average intellect - if you claim to be an 'intellectual'? I would have thought? And this 'fight for truth'? When you barely acquaint yourself with the facts of the case. LOL. And that you will not allow 'stupidity to overwhelm discussions' and then - on 'important matters'. LOL. It's rich. The only thing that's overwhelmed the last pages on this otherwise pristine thread - is your own stupidity.

I think it was YOU who determined that lasersaber's experiment was 'trivial' and his rights to post on his experiment - questionable. By contrast you do what? I keep asking this. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE HERE? You seem to feel you have every right to comment, rather freely at that - or fancifully - or wildly - in any event - entirely incorrectly - on an experiment where you also - self evidently - have NO knowledge the experimental apparatus or it's test objects. Then you demand irrelevant explanations for that same apparatus while you continue to parade the extent of your own ignorance and presumption.

Frankly I think it is YOUR comments that are trivial and YOUR rights to comment questionable. And I think the only person here who has shown us the most alarming level of stupidity is yourself. With respect. Actually - not so much.

Again
Rosemary

Nonsense. Read what I write and try to understand it. This thread is about a proposed experiment and it is obvious that the experiment in question is trivial and should not be encouraged. On the other hand, what I've done in the area of OU is not the subject of this thread and only a stupid person will try such an attack at someone pointing the irrelevance of the proposal at hand.

Omnibus · « **Reply #108 on:** September 06, 2010, 10:40:08 PM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 06, 2010, 03:19:15 PM

Here are some photos of my crude attempts at this from a while ago. As I have said, we all did learn a few things and, yes my coil, seen here with one layer of windings only, did have an output after building and before placing in the ground, when it was totally dry.

So to answer a few questions asked of me here, yes, the 2 metals are totally insulated from each other and yes there was a dry output, although not as much as after I wet it and let it dry. No other electrolyte was added.

Lasersaber put it best and it basically summed up our understanding of this coil from back then in that it is partially some sort of galvanic reaction and also it is something else. Otherwise, if galvanic was all this ever was, why would NS's coils not break down after years in the ground? Maybe it is a very, very efficient type of controlled galvanic reaction? I do not really know and do not claim to know.

The 2nd and 3rd photos are of my larger coil which actually has 2 layers of primary such that all the wire ends can be on the same end as NS has done it and now Lasersaber. The max. mA's output from this small coil was 47.2. The core was a galvanized iron spike that had very strong attraction to my test neos in the store.

I hope this answers those questions asked of me but, I am telling you that Lasersaber is setting the pace here and is far beyond what our group was able to do. My suggestion is that for those that see this as I, and many others do, keep following and try replicating. For those who think it is nothing new and not worthy of messing with....then don't.

Bill

I disagree that this question should be left hanging and those who don't understand that galvanic potentials are trivial should be left unchecked. First it should be understood that wetting the separator, that is, making the two dissimilar metals in contact through an electrolyte disqualifies at once the setup in question as being an OU. Therefore, experiments with wet separators should never be mentioned in the context of OU (unless some extremely precise measurements are made, beyond the scope of this discussion, showing OU; without such any implying that a wet cell may be OU is plain wrong).

Secondly, I disagree that @laseraber is setting the pace in this. if what you say is real then you would be the one setting the pace (@laseraber's being being only a forseeable application of what you've done). Therefore, it is extremely important to go back to your experiments and verify especially that the metals are in no contact whatsoever and that you can measure a potential even when the coil placed in a Faraday cage.

As for the setup remaining intact despite the galvanic potentials developed across, it is quite usual -- think about the amalgam fillings some people have or the various dentures -- galvanic potentials are there and yet the dentures and the fillings remain intact for years. In fact changing them is never because of the galvanic potentials developing.

happyfunball · « **Reply #109 on:** September 06, 2010, 11:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Omnibus on September 06, 2010, 10:21:04 PM

Nonsense. Read what I write and try to understand it. This thread is about a proposed experiment and it is obvious that the experiment in question is trivial and should not be encouraged. On the other hand, what I've done in the area of OU is not the subject of this thread and only a stupid person will try such an attack at someone pointing the irrelevance of the proposal at hand.

Really petty uncool and unnecessary. This guy didn't have to post his experiment here, and clearly stated it's not OU. How about you produce a working OU device, not just data, or shut up.

Omnibus · « **Reply #110 on:** September 07, 2010, 06:43:48 AM »

Quote from: happyfunball on September 06, 2010, 11:59:41 PM

Really petty uncool and unnecessary. This guy didn't have to post his experiment here, and clearly stated it's not OU. How about you produce a working OU device, not just data, or shut up.

It doesn't matter what the guy stated or didn't state. What matters is the reality of the claim in the title of this thread. The shown device isn't a self-runner because the motor is driven by a galvanic cell. What's potentially interesting is @pirate88179's work but there's more to be understood about it.

Also, like I said, what I've done in the OU field is irrelevant here because this thread is about something else.

Rosemary Ainslie · « **Reply #111 on:** September 07, 2010, 06:58:09 AM »

Hi guys,

I see now that there's no silencing our resident troll. I think I need to follow Wilby's example and put him on my ignore list. Not sure how to do this but will give it my best shot.

Meanwhile to others who may also feel their hackles rise at such excessive sanctimonious smug ignornace displayed so frequently and so compulsively - may I suggest you do the same. Alternatively, just ignore his posts. Maybe he'll learn that he's really not wanted.

Regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary Ainslie · « **Reply #112 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:51:46 AM »

Quote from: Groundloop on September 06, 2010, 09:33:05 PM

Rosemary,

The easiest way to make a low friction rotor is to disassemble
a computer fan. Take out the electronics, the toroid magnet and
cut of the fan blades. Glue Neo magnets on the outside of remaining hub.
If you use a fan that have two ball bearings then apply some lubricant
to the bearings before assembling the fan again. (Not needed on a new fan.)

Groundloop.

Hi Groundloop. What a comfort to see you're a member here as well. Thanks for the advices. I'm not sure where to find a computer to disassemble though. LOL. It'll be easier for me to buy the stuff or manufacture them.

But I'll ask around.
Many thanks

Rosemary

truthbeknown · « **Reply #113 on:** September 07, 2010, 07:56:01 AM »

Computer fans are very inexpensive and should be very easy to find near you. Otherwise you can order them on the internet. In the USA they cost as little as $9.00. Try any store that sells or repairs computers.

J.

Rosemary Ainslie · « **Reply #114 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:02:23 AM »

Quote from: truthbeknown on September 07, 2010, 07:56:01 AM

Computer fans are very inexpensive and should be very easy to find near you. Otherwise you can order them on the internet. In the USA they cost as little as $9.00

J.

Thanks truthbeknown. I'll check it out. I have a friend here whom I'm sure will know where to go.

Kindest regards,
Rosemary

Omnibus · « **Reply #115 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:10:51 AM »

Quote from: Rosemary Ainslie on September 07, 2010, 07:51:46 AM

Hi Groundloop. What a comfort to see you're a member here as well. Thanks for the advices. I'm not sure where to find a computer to disassemble though. LOL. It'll be easier for me to buy the stuff or manufacture them.

But I'll ask around.
Many thanks
Rosemary

Don't call people who criticize nonsense trolls. You are an impudent person who has no shame. Being incompetent as you are the prudent thing to do is be silent and try to learn something rather than overwhelm the net with your gibberish.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #116 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:38:51 AM »

Quote from: Omnibus on September 06, 2010, 10:40:08 PM

I disagree that this question should be left hanging and those who don't understand that galvanic potentials are trivial should be left unchecked. First it should be understood that wetting the separator, that is, making the two dissimilar metals in contact through an electrolyte disqualifies at once the setup in question as being an OU. Therefore, experiments with wet separators should never be mentioned in the context of OU (unless some extremely precise measurements are made, beyond the scope of this discussion, showing OU; without such any implying that a wet cell may be OU is plain wrong).

Secondly, I disagree that @laseraber is setting the pace in this. if what you say is real then you would be the one setting the pace (@laseraber's being being only a forseeable application of what you've done). Therefore, it is extremely important to go back to your experiments and verify especially that the metals are in no contact whatsoever and that you can measure a potential even when the coil placed in a Faraday cage.

As for the setup remaining intact despite the galvanic potentials developed across, it is quite usual -- think about the amalgam fillings some people have or the various dentures -- galvanic potentials are there and yet the dentures and the fillings remain intact for years. In fact changing them is never because of the galvanic potentials developing.

Omni:

We can agree to disagree then. lasersaber is not replicating mine, or anyone from our group's work, he is replicating Nathan Stubblefield's work. I want to be clear on that. My efforts were kind of cheesy as I was using parts I could locate around here easily and most probably not the best ones for the job.

It did serve as a proof of concept however and we learned that more experiments needed to be done.

I can assure you that there is no contact on the metals in any of my coils because, if you build one, and it does not work, the first thing you do is a continuity check to find the short. So, if it works at all...no contact. I never ever even tried a secondary because although we had some ideas in our group, no one ever built a make/break device so a secondary was useless to us at that point.

This is where Laser has taken this to the next level and then some. He used materials true to the NS original coil and also devised a make/break device.

All of my earth battery experiment videos lighting leds from JT's is from a different way of generating energy. I went with the electrode approach which, interestingly enough, also exhibits some galvanic reactions and some not. It has been working now for almost 3 years. Many folks back then said the magnesium would break down in a few days...well... it has not. Others claimed I was tapping into a "leak" from the power company although my scope shots showed much higher freqs. then 60 hz. and none at 60 hz. I have not tried that in a Faraday cage but then again, it is in the ground and I am not sure that would be possible to do.

Bill

Omnibus · « **Reply #117 on:** September 07, 2010, 08:54:45 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 07, 2010, 08:38:51 AM

Omni:

We can agree to disagree then. lasersaber is not replicating mine, or anyone from our group's work, he is replicating Nathan Stubblefield's work. I want to be clear on that. My efforts were kind of cheesy as I was using parts I could locate around here easily and most probably not the best ones for the job.

It did serve as a proof of concept however and we learned that more experiments needed to be done.

I can assure you that there is no contact on the metals in any of my coils because, if you build one, and it does not work, the first thing you do is a continuity check to find the short. So, if it works at all...no contact. I never ever even tried a secondary because although we had some ideas in our group, no one ever built a make/break device so a secondary was useless to us at that point.

This is where Laser has taken this to the next level and then some. He used materials true to the NS original coil and also devised a make/break device.

All of my earth battery experiment videos lighting leds from JT's is from a different way of generating energy. I went with the electrode approach which, interestingly enough, also exhibits some galvanic reactions and some not. It has been working now for almost 3 years. Many folks back then said the magnesium would breakÐ¢ down in a few days...well... it has not. Others claimed I was tapping into a "leak" from the power company although my scope shots showed much higher freqs. then 60 hz. and none at 60 hz. I have not tried that in a Faraday cage but then again, it is in the ground and I am not sure that would be possible to do.

Bill

Like I said @laseraber's work deserves no attention since it's just powering a motor with an energy source. Your experiments are earlier than his and they are about the very essence of things and therefore are of real importance. I'd be very interested to learn more after your assurance in the last post that there's no contact between the metals and yet you can measure a potential difference. Is it possible to redo some of these experiments, placing the coil in a Faraday cage, and then possibly send one coil to me to study it (I'm in Europe right now but I'll be back in a moth or so)?

Mk1 · « **Reply #118 on:** September 07, 2010, 09:19:23 AM »

@oblivious

Thanks for your input , but it dose seem that no one cares about your post or opinion for that mater , why are you apparently lowering your self to reason with deluded people ?You have better things to do here .You are a great asset ? Do good show them better! Don't shout that they failed because you have no part in there work ...

I for one am pleased to see a Ns coil working , you can't even see that in a museum !

Now can't you get people's attention in other ways than attacking them ?

Take a break , stop posting here or it will be clear that you are a paid troll .

Only some one that gets paid could bother that much , or a juvenile or else ..

Omnibus · « **Reply #119 on:** September 07, 2010, 09:45:45 AM »

Quote from: Mk1 on September 07, 2010, 09:19:23 AM

@oblivious

Thanks for your input , but it dose seem that no one cares about your post or opinion for that mater , why are you apparently lowering your self to reason with deluded people ?You have better things to do here .You are a great asset ? Do good show them better! Don't shout that they failed because you have no part in there work ...

I for one am pleased to see a Ns coil working , you can't even see that in a museum !

Now can't you get people's attention in other ways than attacking them ?

Take a break , stop posting here or it will be clear that you are a paid troll .

Only some one that gets paid could bother that much , or a juvenile or else ..

It isn't at all obvious that the coil in question works as claimed. So far, aside from @pirate88179's assurance, it it appears to be a galvanic cell. Note, we're talking about the coil, not about it's application such as that by @laseraber. Like I said, if there were anything interesting about it it would be @pirate88179's research and that has to be pursued until we get to the bottom of it.

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