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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 150756 times)

Offline cletushowell

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #60 on: September 06, 2010, 04:11:56 AM »
And now ill give you the answer even though i had to get arrested for my earth battery the feds did tell me carrots and i didnt get it till
but now I do go to the very old fairy tail of stone soup
everyone contributes we all eat for free
well the first thing in was a stone in the iron
pan it changes the boiling point three stones exactlty the three stones on top of the coral rock a soup fit for a king
its all how you cook the soup the very next thing
to go in is carrorts do you know why carrots
well carrots are a antioxidant and a conductor
so in the tesla tube the carrots essentialy stop the corriosion
of electrodes essentialy ending your Galvonic effect making your coil run
forever no the stones not for sale

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #61 on: September 06, 2010, 04:15:40 AM »
But if you got some cabbage to add feel free were trying to
feed everyone free

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2010, 04:19:38 AM »
Im sorry this is actualy a nail soup
morays and edd are stone soups my mistake
but will light the village free and those that bring the nail do sleep like a king
in the end

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #62 on: September 06, 2010, 04:19:38 AM »
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The NS coil replications that myself, and several others in the group, made about 3 years ago worked pretty good.  The most interesting thing we noted was that, when buried in the ground, the voltage and mA's were higher when the soil was the most dry.  Stubblefield himself said the same thing.

What Lasersaber has done here is to do a more faithful replication using materials that NS used himself.  He has also developed his version of the make-break system that NS might have used, or at least something similar.  None of us in the group ever got that far with it.

So, I believe this work to be very significant and I am happy that he is sharing all of his details with us here.  I hope we can see other replications of Laser's work and maybe others can maybe make some new improvements to these devices.

I hope to replicate laser's work here as soon as time and funding allow.  I believe this to be very important.

Bill

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #64 on: September 06, 2010, 05:21:36 AM »
Bill I beleive we made the break thru
on both in one day the temperature split between
the air and the ground creates a energy transfer all the time tge moray
valve but the problem was and is the
tube tesla reversed the tube so as to
contain the pressire to equal the boiling point
so the lightning cannot how do you say this go everydirection
but bounce in the tube directing the diapoles
thru the tube when the pressure and size
gas is right the bulb will just stay warm not boil over
although i beleive when it boils over the aluminum oxide
finds its own happy medium of gas to
air making this pressure relatively easy to find
i have to do more testing but i beleive your earth battery
is directly related to your tempersture change and my remoerature change on mine was a steady 58 degrees but i did not add a cap
or a tube to direct the flow morays caps and 50 bulbs his tubes
so i think if you can seperate your temperature more your energy will go up which is what the water was doing in the air battery
but the salt overcones the remperature change by inserting more or less temperature with no water thats my take im pretty shure the joe cell
has very same principles the inner ring tempersture
is higher a smaller ring distributed over the next
a larger lower tempersture to the next a wheel within a wheel
within a wheel the core the zinc the salt

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #65 on: September 06, 2010, 05:42:49 AM »
@Pirate88179,

Can you describe in more detail your experiment? When the coil was not buried in the ground were the metals insulated and yet there was still potential difference measured between them?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #66 on: September 06, 2010, 05:56:27 AM »
He says outright he is not claiming OU in the video. I didn't say he's 'convincing,' and really he's not trying convince anyone of anything. Deep breaths, man.

On the contrary, he' s trying to convince whoever reads this that it is "Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor" which it is not if the coil is a galvanic cell.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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The NS coil replications that myself, and several others in the group, made about 3 years ago worked pretty good. 

Bill

Can you point me to a URL that lists the components and instructions to build one of yours and/or Lasersaber's Stubblefield coil?

Thanks
DonL

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2010, 07:55:53 AM »
He spicifically states in the video he's not claiming OU. If the battery really is dry, you have to admit it's intriguing.

I LOVE waking up to this kind of thread interest.  happyfunball - take a look at the construct related to the actual Nathan Stubblefield coil which lasersaber has given us.  I'll try and get the link when I've posted here.  You'll note that amperage and voltage are evident without damping the cotton.  Damping simply served to increase both.  That's the first point.  Secondly in this coil lasersaber has done without the secondary winding - all that copper that usually takes up almost a 3rd of the coil.  It only has the initial windings.  Then.  The coil itself was over 80 days drying and only half that time was the entire test apparatus in 'full swing' so to speak.  I very much doubt that there's any moisture left in it - but Cat's right.  It would be as well to determine this - if possible.  But then - build a second rig PLEASE.  Let's see this one go to the death. 

Regarding ou prize claims - can't quite remember who brought this up - I think Stefan wants something to run for 'months'? is it?  Certainly not even for a year.  I'm glad to see that lasersaber has got this in a controlled environment - hopefully a library or somesuch - available for public view and to be put on public record and YET - not available for sabotage.  I'm reasonably certain that he'll not change that apparatus.  I do hope so.

Pesonally I think that lasersaber has compensated for the lesser voltage resulting from a dry coil - by adding the second switch.  Indeed.  This is very, very interesting.  Absolutely.

Kindest regards,
Rosie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #68 on: September 06, 2010, 07:55:53 AM »
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A Galvanic cell, named after Luigi Galvani, is an electrochemical cell that derives electrical energy from chemical reactions taking place within the cell. It generally consists of two different metals connected by a salt bridge, or individual half-cells separated by a porous membrane. It is sometimes called a "Voltaic cell", after Alessandro Volta, inventor of the voltaic pile, the first electrical battery. In common usage, the word "battery" has come to include a single Galvanic cell, but a battery properly consists of multiple cells.[1][2]

Guys, here's Wiki's definition of a galvanic cell.  I looked it up to put paid to Omnibus' pretentions.  You will notice that it requires the physical separation of two metals through an acid or alkaline mix or through the construct of a salt bridge.  Here we've got the two metals in gridlock and some tenuous insulation of iron winding with the use of cotton fibre.  I very much doubt it can be described as a 'galvanic' cell at all.

Also of interest is Cat's reference to the date of the initial Nathan Stubblefield patent.  I'm just sorry that this device was not, apparently, further developed.  It would have changed history. 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #70 on: September 06, 2010, 08:46:15 AM »
Like Ii said, if there's no galvanic contact between the two metals (the two metals are insulated from each other)
When I read something like this then my actual concern is that we're dealing with another troll.  In the first instance he takes the trouble to tell lasersaber - obviously a genius experimentalist - that he DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.  And then he states

and the rotation persists while the device is in a Faraday cage, then we'll have something to pay attention to.
that initial 'REQUIREMENT ACCORDING TO OMNIBUS' the omniscient ignoramus - is that the two metals must be insulated from each other?  Why?  What exactly would this prove?  That it's not a galvanic effect and therefore of no interest.  Or that it is a galvanic effect and therefore of no interest?   ::) And this from a man who professes to know whereof he speaks.  I would urgently advise all members and readers to see this pretentiousness for what it is.  Indeed the most of us already do. 

Then we get this.
I'm afraid that's not the case, though. If I'm wrong then this person should come here and clearly state that there's no galvanic cell in his contraption and the two metals are wound into the said coil while insulated from each other and the device thus set up works in a Faraday cage too.
Notice, if you please, there is no request here.  There is a demand that this gentleman - who has taken time out of his life to give us the variation to the Nathan Stubblefield Coil - gratis and for nothing - who has video'd and explained the manufacture of the entire apparatus - also gratis and for nothing - to then demand that he demean himself and come and explain to this obviously intellectually challenged mediocrity - what?  That Omnibus needs to revise his terminology?  That's the only appropriate response.  Else just ignore him.  Hopefully he'll do the latter.

Otherwise this whole thing has to be dismissed.
By whose ruling may I ask?  Does Omnibus now determine what may or may not be allowed on this forum and on lasersaber's own thread?  What extraordinary presumption of authority.

We've seen enough incompetence and too many sick games played here (@cletushowell being the latest) that it's high time to take a clear stance against such charade.
Well.  It seems that Omnibus now sees lasersaber's offer as a 'sick game' - unless he declare something that is entirely illogical - demeaning and insulting.  All I can say to this attitude is this.  lasersaber I heartily apologise to you that our members can be so thankless and impolite.  I trust you know enough to ENTIRELY discount Omnibus' attitude and that you realise how much the rest of us appreciate your work.

It is precisely this attitude that Omnibus and others like him manage to hold back OU technology.  To me the real miracle is that progress is made on these forums notwithstanding these trolls.  Are they paid? From what I understand the only OU technology that Omnibus has attempted to defend is Steorn's technology.  And that technology is NOT FREE or OPEN SOURCED.  It's licensed.  Makes one think.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Why listen to dreary windbags like Omnibus? ... (he might be OU himself if someone wanted to strap a Sterling engine on his keyboard)


LOL

it appears OnthebUs is already OU


more energy emerges from his backside than goes into his brain!  ;)

 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #72 on: September 06, 2010, 09:11:22 AM »
No, he's not convincing. What he's showing is nothing, it's trivial, he can't get it and if he wants to persuade those of us who follow the matter closely he should really do some serious work to prove that's something worthwhile. So far it's a joke and we need no more of this.

@Omnibus
I trust your use of the word "we" is intended as the royal plural.  It is NOT A REFLECTION OF THE MAJORITY OF THE CONTRIBUTORS HERE.  "We" as the majority of the contributors in this thread absolutely do not regard this effect as 'trivial'.

And may I again ask you to show us your OWN contributions to OU technology?  From where I sit this has been confined to a sad little apologia  that thermodynamic laws allow for OU?  Where's your paper?  Where's you treatise?  Where's you nobel prize?  Where's that brilliant logic that gives you this presumption of authority to speak on behalf of everyone here?  It's patently lacking.  Show us your credentials Omnibus that we can revise these opinions about you.

I suspect that the next thing that will happen is that shruggedatlas will now come to the fray and try and explain that you're the next best thing to Einstein.  LOL.

Rosemary

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #73 on: September 06, 2010, 09:17:45 AM »
Besides, if he's not claiming OU what is his device doing in this forum? It shouldn't be in any forum discussing unusual setups for that matter. What he's presenting may be shown at some school fair where kids present experiments based on the known laws of physics. No more than that. Like I said, all he's showing is trivial and worthy of no attention in a forum such as this.

It is my opinion that if we depended on your own standards of 'worthy' experiments we'd need to wait into eternity to find such.  Clearly you are, yourself, incapable of original thought let alone original experimentation. 

Where are your own experiments Omnibus?  Even a replication would help?  Where are they?  What can you bring to the table?  Apart from your mediocrities and your lack of accreditation?

Rosemary

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #74 on: September 06, 2010, 09:18:28 AM »
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I suspect that the next thing that will happen is that shruggedatlas will now come to the fray and try and explain that you're the next best thing to Einstein.  LOL.

Rosemary
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Why are you being so cruel?

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