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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 150764 times)

Offline Rosemary Ainslie

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #75 on: September 06, 2010, 09:29:57 AM »
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I suspect that the next thing that will happen is that shruggedatlas will now come to the fray and try and explain that you're the next best thing to Einstein.  LOL.

Rosemary




Why are you being so cruel?

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truthbeknown - I am concerned - really concerned - that there are personalities on this forum and others that actively discourage experimentalists especially when they forge new fields and new grounds.  All such negativity is DANGEROUSLY effective.  I know the 'fight' that I had to put up else, I assure you, even my own technology - which I hasten to add is NOT as significant as this - would have been buried - ENTIRELY.  Can't you guys realise how important this is?  What I mean is this.  It is REALLY needed to show up dissentions and detractors for what they are.  If it were merely a matter of opinion - then that's fine.  But when that opinion begins to matter then it definitely DOES NOT serve the interests of OU technology.  And the slow systematic input of negativity and negative associations is ALL that's needed. 

And when that negativity is presented with a pretended authority - then it's doubly dangerous.  People can assume that there's accreditation and therefore the opinion is weighty and significant.  It divides the interest into polarised camps.  The rest is easy.  One or other side will win and the technology is, in any event trashed.  That's the danger.

I realise that I run the very real risk of being banned for being quite this outspoken.  But I'd sooner run that risk than be muffled again.  I lived almost 4 months under those conditions at EF.com - and I hardly progressed anything at all. 

Sorry to get this far off topic.  But you asked.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #76 on: September 06, 2010, 10:23:08 AM »
Hey Buddy, cut it out. This was tried by @alsealokin(Tinsel Koala) who used that hillbilly @overconfident, then it was tried by him impersonating Mylow, this time impersonating a schoolboy moron. This won't fly. You won't stop the reasonable from pursuing OU by playing these sick games. Don't kid yourself, many see through it. Cut it out. If Stefan wants to keep you just for some kind of amusement that's OK, otherwise he should ban you straight away.

Overconfident is hardly a hillbilly.  And I'm glad to see that you'll give permission to Stefan to - as you term it 'keep' Cletus.  We're all grateful for this permission.  It is my opinion that Cletus' contributions here are GOLD.  They're uniquely individual and they're all based on original thought.  In fact the only thing that they have in common with your own work is that the logic is never evident.  In Cletus' case it's because he has a unique turn of mind.  In your case it's why?  And where Omnibus is your experimental contibution?  Not even a replication.  And how much of this forum do you own - that you can indulge Steve in which members he may 'keep' as you so patronisingly put it?  And to his credit I very much doubt that Cletus will ever be your 'buddy' as you term it.

I rather suspect that a member's value is to the extent that he can learn about OU technology - one way or another.  So.  I ask it again.  What is your contribution here?  Or do you pontificate from an arm chair and decide on what you think is allowable or otherwise?  I'd sooner exercise my own discretion if you don't mind.

Rosemary

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #77 on: September 06, 2010, 11:04:42 AM »
It is very important to pinpoint stupid things such as this one (and some other in this forum -- she knows exactly who I mean) sooner rather than later so that no energy is wasted on dead ends. As a matter of fact to sway the OU into non-productive avenues is one of the tactics of the zealous activists trying to prevent the development in this area. Many of us recall how @alsetalokin(Tinsel Koala) used the hillbilly @overconfident and got a number of enthusiasts into his scam only to sit on the side and laugh at them. There are plenty of enthusiasts interested in OU but OU research needs more experts to get involved and to have the enthusiasts listen more carefully to them. Filling the gaps in one's understanding by pecking into google and reading about galvanic cells and so on is not the way to go. Missed years of systematic study cannot be made up by arrogance and random reading from sketchy sources on the net. That's wasting your own time as well as wasting everybody else's time.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #78 on: September 06, 2010, 11:10:16 AM »
As for @cletushowell, as I said, either he is some very, very stupid fellow who doesn't know his place or this is an expression of some quite unoriginal approach by the zealous activists to make everybody else here look stupid. This won't pass, however, and the activists in question should hear it loud and clear.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #79 on: September 06, 2010, 11:15:47 AM »
It is very important to pinpoint stupid things such as this one (and some other in this forum -- she knows exactly who I mean) sooner rather than later so that no energy is wasted on dead ends. As a matter of fact to sway the OU into non-productive avenues is one of the tactics of the zealous activists trying to prevent the development in this area. Many of us recall how @alsetalokin(Tinsel Koala) used the hillbilly @overconfident and got a number of enthusiasts into his scam only to sit on the side and laugh at them. There are plenty of enthusiasts interested in OU but OU research needs more experts to get involved and to have the enthusiasts listen more carefully ot them. Filling the gaps in ones understanding by pecking into google and reading about galvanic cells and so on is not the way to go. Misseg years of systematic study cannot be made up by arrogance and random reading from sketchy sources on the net. That's wasting your own time as well as wasting everybody else's time.

Another hard to follow post with very little logic and an awful lot of pretension.  But I take it that there's now an outright admission of the fact that this experiment that has been put to the table - and brilliantly designed by lasersaber - is now no longer considered trivial. 

And regarding the second post which I won't even bother to copy - I rather think that Omnibus is looking in a mirror and thinking aloud.

That is definitely progress. 

Rosemary

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #80 on: September 06, 2010, 11:20:26 AM »
...so that no energy is wasted on dead ends... That's wasting your own time as well as wasting everybody else's time.
my time is mine to waste... as evidenced by this response to you. ::)

it is not your place to dictate what people choose to do with their time. all you are doing is demonstrating your megalomania with such comments. you have made your point, you have stated that this is not interesting to you, trivial, i believe was your choice of words. and that is all great, grand and wonderful, but as you have failed to notice, no one cares... mint?

and as an aside, please stop with this erroneous habit of referring to people as @tinselkoala, @rosemary, etc. it makes no sense. the @ symbol (in its use on the world wide web) means 'at'... as in getbent 'at' fu.com. ie: getbent@fu.com. so why are you referring to people as 'at'tinselkoala or 'at'cletushowell, etc. ad infintum? don't respond, it is a rhetorical question...

edit: corrected error, had mislabeled the @ symbol as an ampersand.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2010, 01:13:30 PM by WilbyInebriated »

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2010, 11:27:11 AM »
my time is mine to waste... as evidenced by this response to you. ::)

it is not your place to dictate what people choose to do with their time. all you are doing is demonstrating your megalomania with such comments. you have made your point, you have stated that this is not interesting to you, trivial, i believe was your choice of words. and that is all great, grand and wonderful, but as you have failed to notice, no one cares... mint?

On the contrary, I have a moral obligation as an intellectual to fight for the truth and to not allow stupidity to overwhelm discussions on important matters. You may waste your time all you want but don't waste the time of others. Have no doubt, I'll confront any stupidity you try to impose on others as soon as I spot it. Am I clear?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2010, 11:28:52 AM »
I will continue using @ to indicate handles, as you and everybody else should also do (by the way @ is not ampersand; ampersand is &).

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #83 on: September 06, 2010, 11:29:56 AM »
On the contrary, I have a moral obligation as an intellectual to fight for the truth and to not allow stupidity to overwhelm discussions on important matters. You may waste your time all you want but don't waste the time of others. Have no doubt, I'll confront any stupidity you try to impose on others as soon as I spot it. Am I clear?
on the contrary, my time is mine to waste. furthermore, i'm not wasting anyones time, as that is not possible. the CHOICE of what you do with your time is yours... noone can waste 'your' time unless you permit it. no, you are not clear, you are as confused as ever.
'waste' and 'stupidity' are subjective. once again you demonstrate your megalomania...

congrats, you just made my ignore list...

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #84 on: September 06, 2010, 11:36:07 AM »
on the contrary, my time is mine to waste. furthermore, i'm not wasting anyones time, as that is not possible. the CHOICE of what you do with your time is yours... noone can waste 'your' time unless you permit it. no, you are not clear, you are as confused as ever.

congrats, you just made my ignore list...

I'm on your ignore list but you're not on mine. Like I said, I'll confront relentlessly any stupidity you try to impose on others, no matter how much that sounds unpleasant to you. OU is not for stupid and incompetent people. It is hard enough to pursue to allow incompetence to be an additional hurdle. Waste your own time, don't waste the bandwidth of the forum.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #85 on: September 06, 2010, 12:13:43 PM »
On the contrary, I have a moral obligation as an intellectual to fight for the truth and to not allow stupidity to overwhelm discussions on important matters. You may waste your time all you want but don't waste the time of others. Have no doubt, I'll confront any stupidity you try to impose on others as soon as I spot it. Am I clear?

 ;D Am I clear?   ;D  Not actually Omnibus.  I'm actually rather amused at your description of yourself as an intellectual.  Shouldn't you show us some evidence of more than average intellect - if you claim to be an 'intellectual'?  I would have thought?   And this 'fight for truth'?  When you barely acquaint yourself with the facts of the case.  LOL.  And that you will not allow 'stupidity to overwhelm discussions' and then - on 'important matters'.  LOL.  It's rich.  The only thing that's overwhelmed the last pages on this otherwise pristine thread - is your own stupidity.

I think it was YOU who determined that lasersaber's experiment was 'trivial' and his rights to post on his experiment - questionable.  By contrast you do what?  I keep asking this.  WHAT HAVE YOU DONE HERE?  You seem to feel you have every right to comment, rather freely at that - or fancifully - or wildly - in any event - entirely incorrectly - on an experiment where you also - self evidently - have NO knowledge the experimental apparatus or it's test objects.  Then you demand irrelevant explanations for that same apparatus while you continue to parade the extent of your own ignorance and presumption.   

Frankly I think it is YOUR comments that are trivial and YOUR rights to comment questionable.  And I think the only person here who has shown us the most alarming level of stupidity is yourself.  With respect.  Actually - not so much.

Again
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People, cant you see that with your eternal discussion you have trashed another good topic?

Why dont you all make a topic called " lets deal our differences here " and leave other peoples thread uncluttered with your differences?

Jesus

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Hi,

I think I posted this drawing in another thread but here it is again.
The Copper and Iron together with water forms a galvanic battery.
But we also have a coil and a core so if we short circuit the coil
for a short time then we can use the changing magnetic field to
run a magnet/rotor. An insulated pickup coil can be added on the
outside of the coil for various purposes.

Groundloop.

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People, cant you see that with your eternal discussion you have trashed another good topic?

Why dont you all make a topic called " lets deal our differences here " and leave other peoples thread uncluttered with your differences?

Jesus
Jesus - I've seen this kind of blanket criticism before.  Are you saying that we must allow unsolicited and unwarranted criticisms against any technology?  That none of us must do anything about it.  Just let it hang there?  Gathering dust and killing threads?  Interesting.  And that we must do NOTHING to speak out against this?  And who then benefits?  OU? Open source? Those experimentalists who've sacrificed their time and trouble to bring their technologies to the table? 

I put it to you that if one did not actively challenge the detractors to these new technologies then one may as well close up shop and stop trying to advance clean green.  And it is my opinion that very often those detractors are simply anxious to 'be heard' - which is dangerously self-serving if, in being 'heard' they're detracting from the very subject that needs nurture and support. 

And it's no picnic to stand up and defend.  Nice to keep one's nose clean and not get involved - but it serves no purpose in advancing these delicate realities that those, such as lasersaber are bringing to the table.  Pirate was able to point out the requirement for checking the water content of the device without offending anyone.  I earnestly suggest that it's possible to do so at all levels and as required.  But when the detraction is done with the censorial - ill advised - liberal criticisms that Omnibus enjoys - then I think it is better that such attitudes be addressed.  Lest this technology be damned before it comes to fruition.

So.  Tell me how you would check this inevitable 'attack' that seems to follow in the footsteps of really desirable technology.  If you have an answer I really want to hear it.

Rosemary

Edited.  May I just add - that it's very smug to disassociate oneself from the quarrel - but what purpose does that serve if it also kills the technology?  I'm afraid that this is one subject that one actually NEEDS to protect if it is to survive at all.  And I speak with authority.  I KNOW that my own poor contributions to these efforts would have died - entirely - had I not confronted a SLEW of attacks.  And I suspect that Dave Lambright's extraordinary device would have died an untimely death on EF.com if we had not faught the good fight.  It's required - is my take.  Or there will be precisely NO progress in a field of endeavour that really is already fraught with scepticism and detractors all with their own multitude of varying objectives.

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sorry guys a duplicate post

 

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