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Author Topic: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for months!  (Read 150765 times)

Offline lasersaber

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@conradelektro

You are on track with the corrected drawing.  Here is what I meant to show:

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Hi all
following on from Mscoffman questions, a simple and practical test could be to place the whole device in a Faraday Cage and then place it into a vacuum bag. hopefully this will result in elimination of ambient moisture and prevent the coil from receiving.
This test could be achieved for a low-cost and not too much time.
Here are some useful links
http://preparednesspro.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/emp-101-part-iv-faraday-cage/

http://www.amazon.com/Quantity-Space-Saver-Vacuum-Storage/dp/B0035Z9A1W/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1283534333&sr=8-1-fkmr2
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2010, 11:08:39 PM »
@laseraber,

That's great. Thanks for sharing it with us. Now what remains is to have it reproduced independently. Also, I second @powercat's suggestion for placing it in a Faraday cage (the vacuum seems redundant for now).

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2010, 12:59:15 AM »
@laseraber,

That's great. Thanks for sharing it with us. Now what remains is to have it reproduced independently. Also, I second @powercat's suggestion for placing it in a Faraday cage (the vacuum seems redundant for now).

Go to youtube.com and look at ''lidmotor''s videos - he has replicated lasersabers NS coils with complete success and fully credits him for it - this thing is most certainly reproducible (looks like it requires patience with the winding, but its not really too complicated).  Especially thanks to the extremely clear and well presented ''how to make a NS coil'' 7 part series that lasersaber has kindly made and stuck on youtube (look for lasersabers chanel or go to the links he left in the first post). 

@ lasersaber - great vids, great batteries, inspiring work.  I tried a copper pipe and magnesium ribbon battery after watching a few of your vids and managed to get a JThief running an LED.  I wanna get more amps now and make a homemade battery to run my exciter.

Have you tried any of your coils in the earth??  any success??  what about other places?

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2010, 01:38:25 AM »
@flat hunter,

There are quite a few videos there. Can you point to a specific one? If that's real it should be reproduced by as many people as possible at that very promptly.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2010, 02:48:40 AM »
Lazzer sabber your so cool i dream of understanding the circuits like you and lid I dont but i do have a idea if theres two open wires on the circuit
a iron core with electricity going thru it is said not to rust somewhere theres a iron rod in earth that defys all logic
but if you coukd run those extra wires to the end of the rod it should have the current fowing thru it from one side to the other and sto the rust altogether maybey this inteferes with the wireing them maybey jus a seperate wire from the end of the iron rod to begening would work the rust is just shorting the begening to the end

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2010, 03:05:13 AM »
I think about the fishes guills and the key you know how fish can swim up stream by directing the water thru its guills to the tail and overcoming the current very easy by creating a airplane wing and reversing it back and forth how a fish flops 
But then we talk about static and feathers then i think about how maybey the birds feathers are taking the static from the air like the stubblfield coil and turning that into the lift directly and on stormy days before the rain birds would be playing in antigravity what a nice life huh 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2010, 07:44:07 AM »
@flat hunter,

There are quite a few videos there. Can you point to a specific one? If that's real it should be reproduced by as many people as possible at that very promptly.

here , they are :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Tllt7GD_w
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWVFnTormg
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-MEWivS-Q
 
 

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2010, 08:44:29 AM »
@flat hunter,

There are quite a few videos there. Can you point to a specific one? If that's real it should be reproduced by as many people as possible at that very promptly.


If thats real????

A battery is 2 different metals separated by an electrolyte.

The stubblefield coil is iron wire and copper wire, separated by an electrolyte (damp cotton).

Im VERY VERY VERY sure it works.

Its just a question of how well - and from the videos ive seen from lasersaber and lidmotor, it seems to work very well - an extremely long time before the electrodes fully decay (here lasersaber is suggesting that salt water helped protect his iron/copper wire from oxidising....but im pretty sure the electrodes still oxidise, like in an ordinary galvanic battery.  Lasersaber can correct me if im speaking rubbish)

There is no need to doubt this design - firstly it HAS already been reproduced, and secondly the design is fairly similar to a regular battery.  Remember though Omnibus - this ISNT OU and no-one has claimed that it is - the only claim is that it is a very efficient battery.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2010, 08:56:01 AM »
There's a major problem here. What is this stubble field coil, if I got the name of it correctly? If that's just two dissimilar metals separated by an electrolyte-soaked cotton to form a Galvanic cell (not a capacitor, as the narrator puts it) then it's as trivial as can be and the whole thing is to be dismissed out of hand. If there's no contact via an electrolyte between these two dissimilar metals in whatever that coil is named and there's only an air gap between them then it's pretty interesting. If that's the case the first thing to do is put the device in a Faraday cage while having the two metals carefully insulated to avoid any Galvanic potentials. Thus, more is needed to demonstrate that this is a self-sustaining device.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2010, 08:59:30 AM »
@flathunter,

If that's what it is -- a device powered by a Galvanic cell -- then it's trivial and is no self-runner (notice the claim, it's in the title of this thread) whatsoever. Not interesting at all.

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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2010, 09:29:59 AM »
There's a major problem here. What is this stubble field coil, if I got the name of it correctly? If that's just two dissimilar metals separated by an electrolyte-soaked cotton to form a Galvanic cell (not a capacitor, as the narrator puts it) then it's as trivial as can be and the whole thing is to be dismissed out of hand. If there's no contact via an electrolyte between these two dissimilar metals in whatever that coil is named and there's only an air gap between them then it's pretty interesting. If that's the case the first thing to do is put the device in a Faraday cage while having the two metals carefully insulated to avoid any Galvanic potentials. Thus, more is needed to demonstrate that this is a self-sustaining device.

As I understand it there is NO liquid added to the coil. And it's retained in a controlled 'dry' environment.
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Re: Self-Runner NS Coil Pulse Motor Live Video Stream. It's been going for mont
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2010, 10:10:34 AM »
There's a major problem here. What is this stubble field coil, if I got the name of it correctly? If that's just two dissimilar metals separated by an electrolyte-soaked cotton to form a Galvanic cell (not a capacitor, as the narrator puts it) then it's as trivial as can be and the whole thing is to be dismissed out of hand. If there's no contact via an electrolyte between these two dissimilar metals in whatever that coil is named and there's only an air gap between them then it's pretty interesting. If that's the case the first thing to do is put the device in a Faraday cage while having the two metals carefully insulated to avoid any Galvanic potentials. Thus, more is needed to demonstrate that this is a self-sustaining device.

Omnibus - I get it that you see yourself as some kind of arbiter on any claims to OU.  To lasersaber's credit he has NOT made any such claims.  And I entirely fail to see any sense in varying the parameters of a perfectly efficient system to satisfy some irrelevant criteria that you nominate.  With respect.

My understanding is that the Nathan Stubblefield's 'earth battery' requires moisture to allow some kind of chemical 'battery type' interaction as the energy supply.  What lasersaber has done here - in an inspired variation of that early design - is to structure the material such that it does NOT need water.  Therefore is it doubtful that this effect depends on any chemical interaction at all.  The other variation is the inclusion of a second reed switch which, as he explains is critical. 

My own advice to lasersaber is to leave the apparatus precisely as is - and let's see it 'run down'.  Don't even bother with an LED.  Rather build a second if there are to be add ons.  Or use the LED on the multiple small coils that you're working on.  Just my tuppence worth.  There is definitely an 'expenditure' of energy - as there's a measurable voltage.  And I concur with lasersaber that the magnet would not perpetually 'rotate' if there were not alternating field patterns resulting from the 'two switches' and collapsing fields.

To my way of thinking this is the single most significant experiment that has EVER resulted from any of these forums and I'm rather concerned that it's not attracting the attention that it deserves or the acknowledgement that one assumes we all owe it.  Surely?  It's apparently defeating those barriers that our classicists require.  Isn't that the intention of these forums?  I would have thought.   ::)

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lasersaberit work is remarkable and fascinating and has so far been replicated by Lidmotor's.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lidmotor#p/u/2/Q_Tllt7GD_w

This is a battery ?, how does it work, I hope we will see test done to establish this, or are we going to say      "it doesn't matter it just works, like magic"
I do hope the testing will be done, I would love to make one of these that can minimally produced 1 W of free power over a very long time.
cat

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lasersaberit work is remarkable and fascinating and has so far been replicated by Lidmotor's.
http://www.youtube.com/user/Lidmotor#p/u/2/Q_Tllt7GD_w

This is a battery ?, how does it work, I hope we will see test done to establish this, or are we going to say      "it doesn't matter it just works, like magic"
I do hope the testing will be done, I would love to make one of these that can minimally produced 1 W of free power over a very long time.
cat

 ;D  Hi Cat, 

I don't know that anyone can definitively state what's happening, but - for what it's worth - my own take is that we've got induced magnetic fields collapsing and interacting with the spinning magnet in synch. I agree it's important to discover whether it's the combination of copper and iron - or wether one can use either one.  And I'ts reasonably important to discount any electrolytic process - but I would have thought that's pretty well discounted precisely because the surfaces are dry.  If moisture in the air is responsible for some kind of electrolytic process - then there's enough such moisture everywhere.  What I'm trying to say is that the quantitiy of moisture is so negligible that I suspect it can be entirely discounted.  But that's just my opinion.

lasersaber has interrupted the rig twice, once to transport it to the site where it now is.  And once to adjust the magnet's spin.  It would be a shame to interrupt it again.  I think any further questions can be established around further builds.  Let's get this one going for a year - uninterrupted.  That would be SO significant. 

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Rosie

 

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