Being able to place a charge in water as the videos you listed show, has "Nothing" to do with the "Energy Capacity" of the water. It is simple to get water to hold a charge, but it does not increase the energy available from it.

... I have what appears to be a stupid  idea ...What if you spray gasoline, with the same sprayer ...?

Hey guys,

Just new to the site and it seems very exciting. It seems that you are wanting to (by viewing the video of the 18 hp lawn mower engine on the cinderblock running on water) run an engine on water internally and not externally with a Hydrogen Gen. , feeding water directly into the combustion chamber and changing it there, by utilizing a plasma spark? I believe that is a brilliant idea, I even printed off the electrical diagram with the inverter and 12volt coil, you all posted in the last few days. I came across the FIRESTORM spark plug invention on the web and it sure looks like what we need for this application, it is a plasma emitting spark plug.....................God Bless ................J

@nightlife
Being able to place a charge in water as the videos you listed show, has "Nothing" to do with the "Energy Capacity" of the water. It is simple to get water to hold a charge, but it does not increase the energy available from it.

Hi Luc,

Great work from you and great input from others. Further to nightlife's suggestion of energizing water I wonder what effect using freshly Ozonated water would have on the effect. Many people are mis-informed about ozone, it is VERY, reactive to most inorganic materials, however Ozone is one of natures wonders for purging the planet from toxins. I don't know if a cheap (O3) water ozonator would saturate enough O3 into the water to make a difference but It might be interesting

Good luck and keep up the great work folks

Will

Hi Stephan,

>Hi Luc and Ossi,
did you remove the internal resistor from the sparkplug first
before doing your experiments ?

- My spark plug does not have any resistor. It measures 0 ohms.

> Do you think you can still get the required input power down ?

- Most definately. But I would have never believed I could get water to explode on demand even with the 1-1.5 amp at 12 volts I am using. Seeing and hearing is believing guys. This is very real indeed and practically very simple to replicate once you understand the key requirements.

> It would be interesting to know, if also only alone with the
high voltage low current discharge the water could be blown up like
this maybe via a bigger charged capacitor ?

- The goal must be to come up with the best circuit for the least energy input. At this stage I don't know if this will mean it will be a capacitive discharge or power on demand circuit. I think that maybe a power on demand circuit with DC pulses at the correct frequency, pulse width and voltage may result in the least energy input. Plenty of lab work to do for all of us but because this is the first alternative energy system that I now believe is truly practical for the home experimenter to build and use, we need to stop all the speculation and guessing and theory and simply analyse technically what has been achieved practically as the overall system and process is very simple. So simple that if you are from a technical or scientific background, you would never beilieve it...

> Also, why is the spark blown out ?

- Simply because it is a very violent explosiong of the water. It is a true and real explosion indeed!!! What you are seeing that is poorly captured by the video is the extremly fast expanding gases of a violent explosion that also creates a loud bang like a fire cracker! It does have a red colour to the gas that does not get captured by the camera as well. I used my digital still camera which does video but no sound. If I get time I will try and capture it on my digital handy cam with the sound and better quality. Just a pain to capture it to PC and convert then upload to youtube but it is important to show.

> As Ossi has real high DC power at his cap, the spark should be able
to burn after the firing of the hv coil ?

- No. Why? The process is simply this and why it can easily be adapted to any combustion engine with a standard ignition system. All you need is a DC voltage supply of a few hundred volts, even just 100 volts, sitting across the spark plug in parallel with the car's normal and standard ignition system. Put water through the fuel system instead of petrol. When the normal HV spark from the standard ignition system occurs, it will ionise the air-water mixture between the spark plug gap and provide a conductive path for the DC voltage supply to flow. When the DC supply flows through the ionised air-water mixture, it instantaneously dissassociates the H2O and ignites the dissassociated hydrogen and oxygen gases. This explosion causes a violent expansion of the gases which pushes the engines cylinders down and drives the motor action of the engine in sequence.

- So the water does NOT burn. It explodes instantaneously and will continue to explode for every ignition pulse as long as there is moisture in the gap. When the moisture is gone there is no explosion. But it does not take much moisture and it seems that even a very humid rainy day may have enough moisture in the air for some small but limited ignitions. I am sure the current air humidity percentage will effect the efficiency of the overall process. Heat and steam work very well but is not needed as an external input as the spark plug gets so hot it starts to heat the moisture in the gap on it's own in a very short time. Please understand that I agree that this is unbelievable but now I am doing this on the lab bench and it is very real and very simple.

> Or is the explosion of te water itsself blowing out the water ?

- Yes, exactly! The water itself explodes and is blowing out very voilently!

> In the video with the 24 x 9 Volts batteries the spark did continue to
burn when ignited, so where is the difference in this water firing ?

I don't know what is going on in that video but I don't think it really fit's in this very valuable thread. Luc well and truly needs a pat on the back.

> Luc and Ossi,
do you think the spark explosion is big enough
to propell a cylinder, so a motor could be done running
on this water explosion ?

- I have no doubt about it now. If you have read the pdf based on S1R9A9M9 work, I believe this can be done. He did it with little electronics knowledge and standard components and equipment. With just a little engineering, the whole process can be made so much more efficient and simple and applied to any combustion engine. The pdf can be found here.

http://waterpoweredcar.com/watercar.pdf

Regards,

Ossie