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Author Topic: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE  (Read 1070043 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2008, 06:36:57 PM »
Hi Luc,
I attached the drawing from user librame to your
first posting, so new readers will come faster to the clues.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2008, 07:00:24 PM »
I'm wondering if a spark plug ignition coil like you are doing produces flyback. Maybe try sending a wire from the ignition coil positive to the battery positive but through a diode. See if the battery power goes up while producing the sparks or if the sparks are no longer produced. lol

On the other hand, is this not possible with just straight wall socket AC power rectified then pulsed as you are doing. Meaning, do you really need the battery and the inverter to make the spark system work.

The other question would be what is the point of this. Do you think an engine will be able to use such high sparking. Will the engine timing limitations be in conflict with the timing limitations of such a spark system. Can this possibly produce hydrogen?
Hi wattsup, I'm happy to see you dropped in ;D  flyback is definitely something that I will be testing if you know my style. Did you read my posts from the beginning? did you see the RE Plasma Flame video I am getting from the inverter with a FWBR? I think that may have to do with the effect, so I think it may have to do with the non sine wave output of the inverter. The idea is to have a ICE running on water. Replicators and myself are already seeing an orange red flame (which cannot be captured on video) around the plug when it fires when sprayed with water, I think that would be Hydrogen.

Luc
« Last Edit: July 18, 2008, 07:06:49 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2008, 07:11:14 PM »
I'm a little bit confused about the picture in post 1.

How is the neodyn magnet exactly connected?



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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2008, 07:11:14 PM »
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2008, 07:13:38 PM »
I feel like a bit of a dolt for asking this, but electronics is not a strong area of knowledge for me.

Could one of you Brilliant, Generous people please post a write-up of what is going on here and why this is so exciting in layman's terms? 
How is this different from a normal spark plug and why?  What advantages does this offer? Could this be easily adapted to current auto-tech?, Etc...

Additionally, since I am not an electronics person and don't have the time to learn all this to contribute to the testing of various configs, I am more than willing to offer my skills in animation, video production, web design and database development to contribute to bringing this to the masses.

Much love & peace to all.
Thanks.
Will

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #79 on: June 28, 2008, 07:38:45 PM »
Another experimenter, with test results:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUBDX0-_ZZQ

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #80 on: June 28, 2008, 07:40:31 PM »
Hi Luc and Ossi, did you remove the internal resistor from the sparkplug first before doing your experiments ?

See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reYRkG39XHw

Do you think you can still get the required input power down ?

It would be interesting to know, if also only alone with the high voltage low current discharge the water could be blown up like this maybe via a bigger charged capacitor ?

Also, why is the spark blown out ?

Or is the explosion of te water itsself blowing out the water ?

In the video with the 24 x 9 Volts batteries the spark did continue to burn when ignited, so where is the difference in this water firing ?

Luc and Ossi,
do you think the spark explosion is big enough to propell a cylinder, so a motor could be done running on this water explosion ?

Regards, Stefan.
Hi Stefan, yes internal resistor is removed, this is mentioned that it is and how to do it at the beginning of topic. That is a good video on how to do it.

I do believe some collection of the back EMF could be collected. I will be testing this later.

I do not believe that hi volts cap discharge will do this, since it would of been found by now.

It blows out yes. I think it would be the energy release.

The video I posted at my first post shows an even more impressive spark burn at 1/2" inch gap :o. I stopped it because the metal was starting to melt. The difference is with this circuit is the RE Plasma Flame will last only the time the HV spark is on to make the bridge for it, that is why I say if we want more power all we need to do is have the HV last longer. Are you all not getting it???

Once we do that I am sure it will make an ICE work on water.

He is also getting a nice flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs-Uk511S_I

Regards, Stefan.
This was posted here before and I think it is off topic since he is using electrolyte in his water. It is just a show.

Luc
« Last Edit: June 28, 2008, 08:03:14 PM by gotoluc »

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #81 on: June 28, 2008, 07:45:45 PM »
Hello Luc and the Rest,

Thankyou Luc for your post, video, enthusiasm and willingness to share with others.

I will admit, I am not sure what is meant by radiant energy, perhaps a short explanation of it here would be appropriate.

However, when I look at the diagram created by Libra, I can't help but see an IRON CORE.
  This 'Iron Core' and what it does is the Topic of a thread I started about MAGNETIC PERMEABILITY.
     In fact, it's fair to say I am obsessed with this subject.

     http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,4831.0.html

However, here is short explanation of what I am so concerned about when it comes to Magnetic Permeability.

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A Coil
         with a current
                             produces a magnetic field.
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Same Coil with a Core (Ferromagnetic, Low Coercivity)
                                                                               with the SAME Current
                                                                                                                 produces a magnetic field

                                      1000's if not 1,000,000 times greater !!
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------         

Where does this energy come from? has definitely been a question on my mind.
Here are some answers and important points pertaining to the characteristics of Ferromagnetic Matierials.

      1. Magnetic Energy comes from the limitless energy of unpaired electrons spinning in the atoms of Ferromagnetic Materials.

      2. Without the presence of an external field, domains form that are a balance between what compasses would do when too close (on a the macro scale)
          And, ANISOTROPIC ENERGY, the Quantum Energy that makes dipoles align when they 'shouldn't'  (on the micro scale)   

          These balance out to get the maze like domains of ferromagnetic materials NOT in the presence of a Magnetic Field.
     
          Because the maze points 'any which way but loose', the external Magnetic NET TOTAL of the Domains/Atom Dipoles ADDS up to ZERO.
                                         
                                                                                                                       If you can't understand this, you won't be able to comprehend the rest.
                                     
                                                                                                              That is, a bunch of energy ADDS up to ZERO when observed from the outside.

      3. When an external magnetic field is applied, the aligned domains get bigger as a result of neighboring dipoles joining the 'happening' alignment.
          This takes little or no 'extra' energy as the ANISOTROPIC energy is very willing to help out in this matter.
 
          Then, the Sum of the domains gets to be Something
 
                                                                                          that can be observed on the outside.

This is where
   
                       an amplification of 5,000 or more

                                                                            is added to the coil's minuscule magnetic field.


So, I hope you can see why I think it is important to understand what is going on when introducing a core to coil in a setup.

In other words, I would bet dollars to donuts that this works because of the core.
                                                                                                                    No core, no 'radiant' energy.

Please, keep up the good work.
  Perhaps this info helps your understanding of the device you have created.

May Sun Shine on your Backdoor Someday,

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #82 on: June 28, 2008, 08:00:31 PM »
I feel like a bit of a dolt for asking this, but electronics is not a strong area of knowledge for me.

Could one of you Brilliant, Generous people please post a write-up of what is going on here and why this is so exciting in layman's terms? 
How is this different from a normal spark plug and why?  What advantages does this offer? Could this be easily adapted to current auto-tech?, Etc...

Additionally, since I am not an electronics person and don't have the time to learn all this to contribute to the testing of various configs, I am more than willing to offer my skills in animation, video production, web design and database development to contribute to bringing this to the masses.

Much love & peace to all.
Thanks.
Will
Hi Will, thanks for looking at this topic and speaking your truth. You have an excellent point and I do also see it the way you do. I am asking for help to do up a single page document that could be easier to understand but that can take some time. This topic is only 2 days old so it will get there with the Grace of God's will.

The idea here is to use water as a fuel for an automobile engine and limitless applications.

I do appreciate your offer in your skilled area and my hopes are up that we can get to that point. Please keep an eye on this topics first post since we will be posting the most up to date schematic and hopefully a simple documentation there.

Luc
« Last Edit: July 18, 2008, 07:07:22 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #83 on: June 28, 2008, 08:05:38 PM »
Spark plug model number should also play into this. The higher the number, the higher the spark/heat ratio. A J19 will spark hotter then a J7.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #84 on: June 28, 2008, 08:11:23 PM »
Hi there The Observer,

Thanks for looking at this topic. The word RE think is just someting we have made up. We are all talking about the same thing just in different words or ways.
Thanks for posting the information. Hopefully one day soon we will have a common language so that we can have a conversation about this. However we are just starting to learn it over again and it will take some time

Thanks for posting.

Luc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #85 on: June 28, 2008, 09:36:07 PM »
Hi Luc,
I removed the magnet in the picture from librame at the cap to your
directions at the first post of this thread.

So no magnet at the switch.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #86 on: June 28, 2008, 10:08:22 PM »
Hey guys,

                 Just new to the site and it seems very exciting. It seems that you are wanting to (by viewing the video of the 18 hp lawn mower engine on the cinderblock running on water) run an engine on water internally and not externally with a Hydrogen Gen. , feeding water directly into the combustion chamber and changing it there, by utilizing a plasma spark? I believe that is a brilliant idea, I even printed off the electrical diagram with the inverter and 12volt coil, you all posted in the last few days. I came across the FIRESTORM spark plug invention on the web and it sure looks like what we need for this application, it is a plasma emitting spark plug.....................God Bless ................J

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #87 on: June 28, 2008, 10:44:06 PM »
Hi Luc, I believe the direct power that you initially supplied to the plug actually energizes the water that is spayed on the plug. The water can be energized before being introduced to the plug.

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Joe%20Cell/Charging%20Water.wmv

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Joe%20Cell/Shock%20Group.wmv

If this is true, it would be better to have the water pre-energized before introducing it to the plug,





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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2008, 10:56:48 PM »
Hello all,  just trying to follow what is happening...  Has anyone tried injecting steam into an ICE with this type of spark plug in the motor?  I was thinking injecting the steam in the air stream, not the sparkplug, or perhaps with this sparkplug.  I dont think you will have a problem with compressing the steam???

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2008, 10:58:34 PM »
Hi Luc, I believe the direct power that you initially supplied to the plug actually energizes the water that is spayed on the plug. The water can be energized before being introduced to the plug.

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Joe%20Cell/Charging%20Water.wmv

http://www.waterfuelcell.org/WFCprojects/Joe%20Cell/Shock%20Group.wmv

If this is true, it would be better to have the water pre-energized before introducing it to the plug,





@nightlife
Being able to place a charge in water as the videos you listed show, has "Nothing" to do with the "Energy Capacity" of the water. It is simple to get water to hold a charge, but it does not increase the energy available from it.

 

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