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Author Topic: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE  (Read 1368924 times)

Offline xee

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #135 on: June 29, 2008, 08:31:49 PM »
@ callanan,
Did you remove the resistor from the spark plug? It is hard to believe that the resistor would not get hot and heat up the plug. Great documentation. Thanks.


Offline nightlife

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #136 on: June 29, 2008, 08:57:48 PM »
sigmaX, page 42 of the following link gives us results from testing done. It shows ocean water having the highest BTU rating and lake/reservoir having the second highest.

 It also shows the break down % of oxygen, nitrogen and hydrogen of each of the different waters tested.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #137 on: June 29, 2008, 10:28:06 PM »
Luc,

        I was still searching on the firestorm plasma sparkplugs and come up with this link, at sounds like Robert Krupa has tried the plasma spark in the chamber with water. Here is his email----interesting choice in words   flamefromwater@yahoo.com  and here is a link from a gentleman that was working with Robert last fall,   http://www.worldwidescam.info/rattewater.htm        May the  GOD of Abraham bless this project........jeff

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #138 on: June 29, 2008, 10:43:47 PM »
Luc: i saw you new diagram. That is much more like S1r's. But i saw something that didnt look right to me, i made a change on your image, let me know if i am right  ;)

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #139 on: June 29, 2008, 11:02:02 PM »
@Callanan

You are really on top of this.  I commend you on your work. 
From my point of view, there are two possibilities for the plug to be cold:

It is an implosion, not an explosion.
It is negative (cold) electricity.

It may be both.  The implosion leads to the negative electricity being generated. 

In reading the PDF file you posted on the s1r, no one seems to have caught on that there is a power amplification here.  The "Effective Circuit" diagram shows the high voltage coil with 34,000 volts @ .38 amps = 12,920 VA.  But, going to the plug we have 24,000 volts @ 6.3 amps = 151,200 VA.  This gives us a gain factor of 11.7 times.  The magic of the spark gap has allowed the high voltage source to piggyback the amps of the low voltage source.  Is this the secret of the Gray engine?  His spark gap with clever circuits is allowing the same thing to happen?  Is the secret of cold electricity the combining of High voltage low amps with low voltage high amps by use of a spark gap?

After we get our cars running on water, we should be thinking of making pulse motors to drive the car like Gray did and do away with the ICE forever?
As long as I am dreaming, dream big!

To see if there really is a power factor gain, you could run some wires from your plug to a large neon sign transformer in reverse.  In other words, the high voltage will be the input and it will drop the voltage down to a usable level.  If you could run it at 50 or 60 cycles per second, we can test with motors or light bulbs and see what we get.  If you could put a capacitor inline as a series resonant circuit, it will help generate a good sine wave from the pulses.  A large cap at these voltages would be really dangerous and I don't know if you want to do this?   Maybe this will lead to a home power plant?

I Hope I am not grasping at straws and there is something here.

Good luck to all
Chris



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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #140 on: June 29, 2008, 11:07:12 PM »
Luc: i saw you new diagram. That is much more like S1r's. But i saw something that didnt look right to me, i made a change on your image, let me know if i am right  ;)
Hi xbox hacker and everyone, I'm back home now but I think I posted the circuit in too much of a hurry before going out. Let me think about this again. I had a clear idea but my EE skills are not as good as my thoughts.

I'll get back to you on this.

Luc
« Last Edit: July 18, 2008, 07:21:32 AM by gotoluc »

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #141 on: June 29, 2008, 11:28:44 PM »
Hi All,

Please see my two new videos here:

http://www.youtube.com/m1a9r9s9

I believe I have replicated a setup that does the same thing as s1r9a9m9 shows in his videos. I believe the setup configuration can allow a combustion engine to be run on water only instead of petrol/gas through the same fuel system on the engine.

In my videos, you will see I am now replicating an engine's ignition system using a signal generator switching a transistor driver that pulses an ignition coil at 20 Hz. This is powered seperately by a small 12V battery although the sig gen is powered from mains power.

I am now using a 300W 12-240V DC to AC inverter to charge up a small capacitor that is effectively in parallel with the spark plug via some diodes. The system works very well, as you can see in the video and only uses 2-2.5 amps on the inverter's input.

With this new setup I was again surprised to find that even after running it continuously for 15 minutes, the spark plug is stone cold to the touch. The water explosions are cold and there is no heat that I can feel. I cannot explain this and my assumption that it was hot and warmed up the water was incorrect. It is a cold explosion or the explosion itself cools the plug tremendously through very fast evaporation of the water. So it would seem that because the explosions may actually cool the cylinder, external heating to assist the humidity and moisture content of the air may be required after all for cooler climates. Also, there is no smell whatsoever and only cold moisture around the spark plug.

Please see following a circuit diagram of my latest setup and some pictures.

Regards,

Ossie
WOW Ossie, I did not have enough time to check your post before going out but just now I looked at your video and it looks great ;)

Thank you for making this better once again ;D as I said before, you are my hero.

It's very cool 8) that it stays COOL.

Luc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #142 on: June 29, 2008, 11:34:41 PM »
@ Luc

I apologize for my previous post as I did not read enough and it was not relevant to your experiment.

I would like to propose that the next step (after successful replication) be to replicate the effect in a closed atmosphere (with some sort of pressure gauge) to measure the energy produced by the radical disassociation of the water by plasma.

I thinking of a cheap clear plastic soda bottle with the label peeled off, a modified spark plug "screwed" into the side, a pressure gauge in the lid/cap, and a way to introduce water mist into the air tight atmosphere of the bottle.

I will try to replicate your schematic and do this (I will need the help of a ham radio friend to realize the electronics).

A very exciting effect, and I hope to contribute good factual data to your discovery.

:D
Hi exxcomm0n, at the speed Ossie is going he may just install it strait to the cumbustion engine.

Luc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #143 on: June 29, 2008, 11:36:57 PM »
Hi Ossie,

Great circuit design!  We here in the US do not have 220-240 50 Hz mains nor use 220-240 VAC 50 Hz inverters.  Not being an electrical circuit design person, can you draw the same circuit you graciously gave us only using 12 VDC to 110-120 VAC 60 Hz inverter.  Also, is the signal generator powered by 220-240 VAC mains required for this to work?  Please post to the forum or email me.

Thank you in advance,
Geo
geovel56@yahoo.com

Offline lefferdink

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #144 on: June 30, 2008, 12:03:03 AM »
Will there be any newer diagrams & or parts where you can go to the candy store and purchase them; like the inverter?


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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #146 on: June 30, 2008, 12:06:56 AM »
Great circuit design!  We here in the US do not have 220-240 50 Hz mains nor use 220-240 VAC 50 Hz inverters.  Not being an electrical circuit design person, can you draw the same circuit you graciously gave us only using 12 VDC to 110-120 VAC 60 Hz inverter.  Also, is the signal generator powered by 220-240 VAC mains required for this to work?  Please post to the forum or email me.


The drawing shows a voltage doubling circuit.

Regards, Larry

Offline gotoluc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #147 on: June 30, 2008, 12:12:38 AM »
The drawing shows a voltage doubling circuit.

Regards, Larry
Hi Larry, glad ;D to  see you here. Thanks for the circuit.

Luc

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #148 on: June 30, 2008, 12:20:43 AM »
Hi Luc, great stuff, looks like another sleepless night for me.
Question, do you folks ever sleep?

Regards, Bren.

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Re: URGENT! WATER AS FUEL DISCOVERY FOR EVERYONE TO SHARE
« Reply #149 on: June 30, 2008, 12:36:49 AM »
Hi Larry, glad ;D to  see you here. Thanks for the circuit.


Thanks, you're doing a great job of administrating this thread. Getting my act together, that's why I had the circuit. I have a big killer cap that's been gathering dust for years, 690MFD at 450 VDC. It's bigger than the ignition coil! Thanks for giving me an excuse to use it.

I plan on using the variac with a 12 to 120 transformer, so I should be able to set it at 400 with no problem. I'll be careful, but if you don't here from me again you'll know why.

Regards, Larry