LS:
had to re-think what I was trying to say, but in the patent NBS says the connect 5 & 6 however do note(or correct me if I am wrong)that he is referring to Figure 4 which has the secondary(outside) coil.
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"It will therefore be seen that the construction of the battery illustrated in Fig. 4 is practically a self-generating induction-coil, and it can be used for every purpose that a coil of this character is used, for as long as the coil-body 4 is wet or damp with moisture electric currents will be produced in the manner described. It will also be obvious that by reason of the magnetic inductive properties of the coil-body 4 the core-piece 1 will necessarily be magnetized while a current is going through the body 4, so that the battery may be used as a self-generating electromagnet, if so desired, it being observed that to secure this result is simply required connecting the extended terminals of the wires 5 and 6 together after wetting or dampening the coil-body."

So, from the way it sounds to me, you would need to try this experiment on 5&6 after you construct your core with the secondary coil around it.

To Wintermuteai1 and LaserSaber!

Having read hundreds of old patents and also newer patents about "wonderful things" I observed that many inventors do not describe crucial elements, materials and even important electrical connections in their patents. This is of course misguided, because exactly these important features will not be protected by the patent. It is the old "I want to become rich and therefore I keep the real secrets to myself" that leads people to do this little tricks, and specially laymen and lone inventors are prone to it.

Therefore it is best to replicate the "wonderful thing" as LaserSaber is doing so nicely and to experiment in order to find out additional or not disclosed effects.

It is of course clear that one needs an even number of winding layers in order to come out with the wire ends at the same side where the beginning ends start. But this might be the sloppy drawing in patent US600457 and not an intentional omission.

I like the idea of LaserSaber to use reed switches and a little rotor (with permanent magnets) to switch the coil (or the copper and the iron coil) which might in the end induce a higher voltage and current in a secondary coil (made out of enamelled copper magnet winding wire).

One could also do the switching with a transistor in a joule thief style circuit, but the rotor and the reed switch will work with very low voltages and very low currents (much lower voltage than with a transistor). Although it will be difficult to get a stable switching frequency with the rotor and the switching frequency might have to be increased by using more magnets on a bigger rotor. But the massive inductance of this big and heavy coil might just ask for a rather low frequency (in the hundreds of Hertz), which has implications for the secondary.

So, LaserSaber is on the right track and it is good to find out much more about the magnetic properties of the coil before going to a secondary which might have to be optimised in a certain direction (e.g. low frequency).

I have since some time planed to go on a trip over Easter, therefore my Stubblefield coil replication has to wait a few weeks. I am also just building an orbo replication which is in the final stages. Orbo (toroids as magnet shields) is an interesting motor concept, but not over unity as far as I can see.

The work of LaserSaber has definitely hooked me on Stubblefield coils.

Greetings, Conrad

 It is the old "I want to become rich and therefore I keep the real secrets to myself" that leads people to do this little tricks, and specially laymen and lone inventors are prone to it.

Greetings, Conrad

Hello Conrad,
It might be true that SOME people do those tricks, so that they can preserve their secrets for themselves, but what is also true is that sometimes inventors didn't put certain things in their patents because the little stuff they left out was just "common knowledge".  Everyone KNEW those little things back then, so why repeat it? 

It is too bad WE are not taught all the important things of how things operate anymore.  Every school should be teaching those things to the children from the beginning, but we have either gotten "lazy" or we have decided that basic information is no longer necessary since we now have such state of the art, high tech equipment.  I would like to know the basics, myself.

V= .432  and A= 2.94

Almost 3 amps with less than half a volt? Doesnt look right.

So does that sound right, or is the meter broken, or what?

I doubt it. Apparently Your getting about the same as Laser. I would like to know if these are digital meters or analog. Im thinking the coil is holding its charge like a cap. If folks are getting 2 amps with half a volt Im impressed. Id like to see a 2 amp load hooked up with a digital clamp amp meter with a hold function already in place, or an analog scope preferably before connecting the load..
 I must be missing something here and I would like to know what it is. Its been stated by a few people that digital or analog meters dont work well with NS coil measurements as its a different type of energy being produced. They seem to only work to a point.
If anyone can tell me why the amps are so high let me know.
 One more thought. I would like to see what kind of measurements there would be with the coil elevated to 6 foot or more over a 24 hour period. 

Iota_
I used an analog meter this time and although I am not sure if it is calibrated correctly or not, (can't find my manual on it right now) here are the readings:
V~ was half way between 2 and 3
V-... (line with three dots under it) was 45

Then I tried a different digital from the first digital and the readings were:
DCmA = 3.63
DCV = .445  (it went up to .448, but I am going with the .445)

I will elevate it tonight and see what happens, but why would the elevation help any?  What is the purpose?

Anyone know how to calibrate the analog meters?  I know it has to do with the little screw in front...but I forgot how to measure what when you calibrate.

I just looked at lasersabers latest video, very good indeed, but couldnt download them, never mind.

Very impressive work there.
The reed switch seems to be working to switch the magnetic field in a similar fashion to JB motors, I would like to see a scope waveform to see just how much spikes are on this thing.

It's a pity I am not back at my place or I would post a JPG of a wiring up diagram.

       Batt Pos --------------.___.-------------\/\/\/\-------------- Bat Neg
                                   Reed SW               Torch Bulb

Try this experiment, make a completly seperate circuit up containing a battery, reed switch and a torch globe all in series, hold the reed switch to the strongest magnetic field and see if the bulb flickers on or off.
Do the same with a LED, it will switch quicker.
       

Well done lasersaber.

jim