@wintermuteai1

I would also like to welcome you to the forum.

You obviously have studied up on the Stubblefield patient, and you are reading the posts, it's a hard thing to do, when theres so many, but theres a wealth of information in them.

@all,
I have been looking at the cutaway view of the Stubblefield coil wintermuteai1 has posted (which is a beauty).
I have just realised the secondary turns, is "offset" several degrees to the Bifilar turns.

Back on the Joule Thief thread, some of the people there made mobious toroids, the turns were offset on an angle.
I'm wondering if we have another mystery here as well?

I'm also having thoughts about the necessity of immersing the coil in water in the first place.
Listening to Lasersabers YouTube video, he mentions the coil was placed in water, but it began to function as it began to dry out, so could it be water shorts out the turns, and dry wires allows energy to flow?

I know one thing for sure, if a working stubblefield coil with a 240v secondary gets wet, there is going to be a heep of sparks in turnally if it gets wet.


jim

For what it is worth, my output on the 2 coils i had buried always went down when it rained and were much better as they dried out and the best in seemingly dry conditions.  It may be that there is an optimum amount of moisture required?  Too little not good and too much not good either?

Bill

It does seem to be that way, Bill, as you have shown with your coils.  I don't know why Stubbs said to use the water, but do you recall how people have said the wires were not even corroded after being buried for so long?  Perhaps it is some kind of intial treatment the coil needs and then it gets buried???  Perhaps he had to word the patent the way he did, just to throw off the officials.  He also said something to the effect that anyone knowledgeable in the art would know what to do...and something also about it wouldn't hurt to make a few changes.  Or, maybe the word WATER is a clue in itself.  So, perhaps the water is not such a necessity as worded in the patent, after all.  I have not buried mine yet, except that first one which was only in the ground a very short time.  (it still gives some voltage by the way) 

I just know that we will eventually discover all his little secrets and maybe a few more.  If we only knew some of the families HE knew, maybe they could give us some insights. 

Bill,

did you ever make it back down to the museum?  Did you ever get a chance  to look into the trunk?  Did you take more photos? 

Stephan,
Could you please name off the men in the logo at the top of the forum,  where it says The Quest For Freedom?  Thanks

"This successful operation of the device required very specific ground placement. It would not work with equal effectiveness in all locations. A very precise placement of the device required a precise knowledge, which only dowsers have. Stubblefield shared this particular fact with only one person.
I spoke with an academician who had the extreme privilege of speaking with Mr. Stubblefield's son, Bernard Stubblefield. Bernard, by this time himself quite aged, told that his father's method in locating the "right spot" was deliberate and time consuming. His father referred to the device as a "receptive terminal" and not a battery. Despite the insistence of Patent Officers in calling the device a "battery", Stubblefield declared it to be an "energy receiver ... a receptive cell for intercepting electrical ground waves". Its conductive ability somehow absorbs and directs the enormous volumes of earth energy.

Whether the current derived from this cell is electricity, as we know it has been questioned. One indicator that it is not is found when considering his use of the energy in lighting lamps. With this energy Nathan Stubblefield operated a score of arc lamps at full brightness for twenty-four hours a day. There was a definite trigger by which this energy was stimulated and maintained."

Not your standard current from the looks of it.

"The induction coil, which bears his name is equipped with three coils which are wrapped around upon a heavy iron core. Bare iron wire and cotton covered copper wire are wrapped side by side, comprising a primary coil body. Each layer of this primary coil body is covered by a band of cotton insulation, bringing four wire leads to the coil terminus. In addition to this bimetallic winding, there is a third winding: the "secondary". This third coil is insulated from the primary bimetallic coil, serving as a trigger device. Presumably, a stimulating impulse shock was introduced into the tertiary or third coil, after which the upwelling electrical ground response brought forth powerful currents in both iron and copper coils.

The Stubblefield power receiver is wound like an induction coil and is an Electrostatic induction coil.  It produces a steady direct current output. Electrical induction only occurs with electrical alternations, oscillations, and impulses. Which we know the earth is doing. Stubblefield may have discovered the auto-magnifying voltage effect of electrostatic induction in coils before Tesla, who later utilized the effect in his special electrostatic Transformers."

In my opinion unless the criteria of specific ground placement,tight coil winds,and proper triggering of the incoming waves or frequency is met you wont get much out of it. A minimum coil size may also be needed which I think J Bedini pointed out. 

This was published in 1893 by an electrical engineer. Its not the NS coil but he references Mica as being helpful in induction. NS mentioned using A Mica covering. Folks may want to add this to their coils as it apparently helps in the induction process.

"The inside of ring A is coated with mica in order to increase the induction and also to allow higher potentials to be used".
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Alternate_Current_Electrostatic_Induction_Apparatus

I really believe the 5 & 6 wires of the device, which if you read the patent states that connecting these two together will create an electromagnet. As I stated in my first post I also think that connecting the copper coil antenna will do much as Tesla described gathering the cosmic energy with the copper coil as the + and the nbs device as the ground - with the secondary wires being to the load. I have also been wondering if the bifilar winding is meant to be connected like the Tesla Coil for electro magnets as in Tesla's patent # 512340

@Pirate have you seen this one


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_UfrFljQfc&feature=related

No, but I have seen similar attempts at this BUT this fellow is getting 114 volts from his device!  This by far the best I have seen with this type of device.  I left him a comment telling him he can probably run a JT circuit from that to do all sorts of things.  if he dumped that into a supercap or b-cap, and watched that he did not over fill it, he would have real usable power there.

Thanks for posting the link.  I will check out his other videos now as well.

I wonder what would happen if you hooked up that device to an EER in parallel?  You can then get the amps (mA's) from the EER and the volts from the air?  Maybe?


Bill

Protonmom wrote(3053):

Every time I look at those Stubblefield farm photos with all the people standing around,  I can't help but wonder about those people.  How many of them actually owned one of those coils (or more) and what happened to those coils?  Up in some attic, or in some barn, or buried on someone's farm, unknowingly?  An earth battery buried in the ground, just waiting for someone to find it and utilize it.  I wonder how many of those people told their grandchildren about the coils and whether the grandkids ever thought about them, or knew where they were.  Or maybe there are papers about the coils, covered with dust in someone's attic, barn, trunk, etc.  Or perhaps Stubblefield met someone from another state and gave that person a coil.  You never know.  Those things DO happen.  If we could get to the right people maybe we could find some lost precious information that the government has yet to discover and destroyed.  If you, dear reader, are ONE of those people, PLEASE let us know...and PLEASE bring forth the coil.  Thanks

I found this interesting article
http://energysuppression.com/

“Bob Aldrich (Reporter): Suppression of Vibrating
Energy Source used by Farmers mid-20th Century
 From  : BOB ALDRICH -- RECEIVED --
To  : JERRY DECKER (SYSOP)
Hi Jerry
By Lamentations I mean lamenting on how difficult it's been to get free
energy made available to the people at large. How many people have tried to make
it possible over the years. Must have been thousands. Who has succeeded?
Say, did you ever hear of a device that farmers were using possibly fifty
years ago that worked on vibration? Apparently some very simple device that when
set to vibrating, would put out ample free energy. Chicken farmers and such were
building them and using them to power the ranch. Until some one or two farms
mysteriously blew up or burned to the ground, after some warnings. This was in
the Midwest to my recollection. The fellow who told me did mention specifics but
it was several years ago and he was very hard to pin down as he was always onto
the latest thing and didn't want to talk about things in the past much. Later,
Bob
(I may have obtained the following miscellaneous anecdotes from an old
version of Leroy Pea’s REA RESEARCH web site)”


If anybody was using a Stubblefield coil, I believe it would be easy for the
“Free energy police” to track them .
A Stubblefield coil in the ground would surely broadcast a frequency
which could be pinpointed by triangulation