I just saw a most wonderful video made of john bedini last year.
freenergyinfo posted it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aA8-0tctyw&feature=channel

In it I think I learned what john was alluding to with the electroscope.
It is an effect he describes happening inside the battery itself.
This is really interesting.

John talks about the spikes a lot and has made a method of charging batteries with them.
Jim, I think you discovered the same sort of thing last night.
I am thinking a 1.2v joule thief can indeed charge a 12v battery or 12 of them easily because the spikes don't blow up the battery as amps do, but they cause a charge to appear on the plates that has the same or better effect as a full battery.
(If it is reversed, it can be confusing to an operator, but that is in there too.)

Last year I spent a lot of time testing the ways to use the spikes on multiple secondaries with series inductors. here John shows how to store more than is "possible" in a battery for later use.

Great video john!
5 stars.

jeanna

ps
@protonmom, I just sent those pics to you.
j

Hi mag,
No He even goes into that.
There are 11 videos in a row, and you should watch them all.
It is very good.

thank you,

jeanna

Jeanna
I will check out the rest of the vids.
Im not picking here. =]  Ive just been through it before myself. I thought I was for some fascinating reason able to add more and more light bulbs to my output in parallel and they were all as bright as just 1. I was like Yeee Haw Baby. But I found my bridge was collecting from the battery while it was pulsing the coil and collecting bemf.
This has happened to me a few times in different configs and I find them pretty quick, but man do those experiences stick. I havnt seen the other vids yet, but the only thing I could think as to why it wouldnt take from the first battery is due to the transistor voltage drop? A good bit of my experience was with reeds and there is no drop.
But it has me thinking already before I see.  Ah and plus the bridge drop. Maybe. hmmm. Ive just played with trying to feed back to the first battery quite a bit and the 2 ways I have found successful were to take the bemf to the primary of a transformer, which is a perfect isolator for phase and to lower the high voltage down to a lower voltage above the battery voltage and the current will be more also.

No. 2 way was drive a second and third pulse setup off of the first ones bemf, that has been rectified to a cap that drives the second pulse setup. Then the output of the second setup is back in phase with the first, as in the grounds and positive from the input of the first pulse circuit now can be connected to the output of the second pulse circuit without conflict.  I have yt vids that show this.

But as for charging a second battery, when that second battery is low, that first battery is dumping some current into that bridge when the motor pulse happens. In my experience anyway.  I need to watch them vids, I am always willing to learn something new.  =]

mags

Edit    No 3rd pulse circuit just 2. Im a loon sometimes.  I did do 3 in a row and it works, but the out to in was out of phase again like 1 circuit. I thought of it and tried it thinking that the stages could run in sequence to give each recharge cap some input before it was drained, and I was so wrapped up in the seq thing, that I forgot about the phase, but I found it. lol   So 4 in seq will work and with 2, the 3rd part of a 3 sequence would be an off time.

Hi guys it's true that with spikes by a bedini motor will charge batteries. I did two small wind turbines with small motors like children do. I fed them to a JT/Bedini circuit. When wind blows they're putting around 80v  into the bank. Amazing guys and it seems that they are charging my 12v batteries!!!.
Thanks

upon the subject of radon

At one time I was a  facility manager and had to take tests for every room in the building. Radon may have something to do with the NS coil. Anyone who has an NS coil or EB should buy a radon test kit and see what the ground levels are.

I am thinking a 1.2v joule thief can indeed charge a 12v battery or 12 of them easily because the spikes don't blow up the battery as amps do, but they cause a charge to appear on the plates that has the same or better effect as a full battery.
(If it is reversed, it can be confusing to an operator, but that is in there too.)


j

INteresting concept
It should not be hard to prove.

If  it works we should  be able to use  inverters to power  stuff very soon

gary

It strikes me he went to a lot of trouble to write a note the wrong way round, but why? what were the reasons for doing this? was it to throw people off the scent? steer them in a different direction? or to steer them to a clue, or keep them tied up in knots.

What does "mapnitude" mean?
 
Look at the 3rd line from the bottom, 3rd word across, it looks like a tiny triangle, but is it a direction pointer arrow? if it is, it is pointing to the word iron.
Look at the end of the 2nd last line. the word Jason is seen, if read without a mirror, it spells nosaj, which makes no sence.

I will have another try late tonight to resend that 1st set to you.

jim


 
 

Jim; Just to clarify what was written at the bottom of that cryptic message.  It says the following:
"Author Of This Expression:
Now if you can't read backwards, hold this before a mirror and read the reflection.
Nathan B. Stubblefield"
 

So, when you say that Jason spelled backwards is nosaj....that has no relevance at all.  There is NO Jason.  There is no nosaj.  The word in question is "read" written in a flair.

I was just told, recently, that someone thought it looked like a twelve year old kid wrote that message.  I suppose it is possible.  It is also possible that Stubblefield wrote it and left a lot of clues.  I was thinking about how shorthand was in common use back then, and coded messages were also common.  I am not sure if there are any shorthand notations in the message, or not.  I tend to agree with you that it IS a coded message though...of some sort.  And if a 12 year old kid really did write it, he has fooled a lot of people.  I am still going to keep looking at it.