I forgot those coils were there in that bunch of photos.
Thanks to both Bill and Jim for this.

@Jim,
I have been pondering this again with my more recently gained experience with coils.
I posted this on yourube today.
I am thinking that the iron wire is being selfinduced as the adjacent copper wire normally is, but because it is iron it is able to hold that induced magnetic influence and slowly release it...
Well, slowly compared to copper.

Now, as it slowly releases its induced magnetism it converts to electricity in the copper wire which re-induces the iron wire and...

All this time the cap may be refilling and re-emptying.

It is clear that the time without the battery is more than 2 times the time touching the battery, as you said.

I see from my files, I did another one later and touched the battery for one pulse length.
This time the motor ran for 4-5 seconds. One pulse gave proportionately more than the more extended time or 13 seconds did.

I had no idea what this meant 2 years ago, but I am beginning to appreciate the stunning brilliance of this design... again.

I am wondering why john bedini didn't make a bedini motor with the coil like this instead of all copper.

John?
Maybe it is just the different focus at the time to use the NS coil for propagation?

I see another coil coming on! and this time #14 will be made with a removable core, one layer of wet silk wrapping and the rest magwire next to iron/zinc wire. Topped off with a very long secondary.
I will also allow for a connection that gary suggests that the secondary connects to the copper primary the way an ig coil does.
And, for the core, I will use welding rods with one long uncut one in the center so it can go into the ground.

I got my 1k pot yesterday along with 2 10,000maH D cell NiMH batteries. ooo fun. I need to make my skate wheel ssg today and tomorrow...

jeanna

NS in the Indiana newspaper:

Bill

NS Wireless Telephony:

Bill

I will also allow for a connection that gary suggests that the secondary connects to the copper primary the way an ig coil does.

jeanna

I didn't realise Gary suggested that.  Where was that?

All,

Didn't Stubblefield's company brochure "define the manner in which his earth battery was to be activated"? Is there a way to find/see/read that company brochure?

Thanks,
%Heath

I wish!
 It was not as galvanic as the patent, but not specific either.

We have posted that brochure a couple of times. I think I dug it out when protonmom first arrived on the scene, so if you go to her first posts (her profile page) look at the date for her first post, then scroll for it from there.

It is worth reading that brochure.

jeanna

@Jim,
I am thinking that the iron wire is being selfinduced as the adjacent copper wire normally is, but because it is iron it is able to hold that induced magnetic influence and slowly release it...
Well, slowly compared to copper.

Now, as it slowly releases its induced magnetism it converts to electricity in the copper wire which re-induces the iron wire and...

All this time the cap may be refilling and re-emptying.

It is clear that the time without the battery is more than 2 times the time touching the battery, as you said.

I am wondering why john bedini didn't make a bedini motor with the coil like this instead of all copper.

jeanna

@Jeanna,
You may be right, there is one way to see if this theory is right, that is  to connect a sensitive amp meter (analog) between the power sorce and the load.
If you see the needle swing one way, then it go the other way, then this would reflect the currents direction each time it changes.

I think the needle/pointer would spend most of its time pointing to the discharge side, very little on the charge side.

Now, the Bedini coil made with "insulated" iron wire, in theory you could remove the iron bolt and allow the iron wire to take it's place, it could also open up a new realm of Bedini experiments, I would like to hear what JB has to say on this one, but it would be very interresting indeed.

I could see one could use a bifilar or trifilar, or even a quadfilar wound coil
The first copper and Iron wire connected in the usual way, the other wires (copper) as output wires, a bit like marrying up the stubblefield inside a Bedini.

The outputs could be configured as a series connection (higher volt out) or as a paralleled output (lower volt Double current out) or as a center tap output Hi-0-low out.

Very interresting indeed.

jim
 

@Jeanna,
You may be right, there is one way to see if this theory is right, that is  to connect a sensitive amp meter (analog) between the power sorce and the load.
If you see the needle swing one way, then it go the other way, then this would reflect the currents direction each time it changes.

I think the needle/pointer would spend most of its time pointing to the discharge side, very little on the charge side.

Now, the Bedini coil made with "insulated" iron wire, in theory you could remove the iron bolt and allow the iron wire to take it's place, it could also open up a new realm of Bedini experiments, I would like to hear what JB has to say on this one, but it would be very interresting indeed.

I could see one could use a bifilar or trifilar, or even a quadfilar wound coil
The first copper and Iron wire connected in the usual way, the other wires (copper) as output wires, a bit like marrying up the stubblefield inside a Bedini.

The outputs could be configured as a series connection (higher volt out) or as a paralleled output (lower volt Double current out) or as a center tap output Hi-0-low out.

Very interresting indeed.

jim

Jim

I do not think the phase  could be seen with a meter
I think it would take a dual channel Oscope
WIth a channel on  each  leg it  would  be easy to see the phase difference
Just  power  a secondary  with some kind  of a signal.......maybe a JT....... and watch the  primarys


gary