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IronHead

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2007, 07:45:15 PM »
High grade car audio power cable ,maybe 8 gauge .
More than 700 strands of zero oxygen electronic
grade pure copper tined all the way through.

Buck a foot for KICKER  hyper flex wire.

Just a thought

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2007, 07:51:17 PM »
Hello all,

sorry guys I cant be quiet!!

Did you ever ask yourself why we have NO POWER in our coils????
Where is the POWER???
Why cant we make even a 40W light bulb to light????
We feed into our coils 1 or 2 or 3 or even more amperes but nothing. Where is the Power gone???

The answer is in the wave (kick)!!!! You know, a wave (kick) is a very, very powerfull "Thing"!!

Otto



Well ? from what can see, if your pulse is a grounding pulse then it will do nothing.  However, if you pulse is a positive pulse then all you're doing is shoring out the coil to the plus side of the supply.

So, let's see.  Since the light bulb is lit this means that there's a magnetic filed formed in the coil.  When you short out the coil you will generate a pulse and when you let the coil charge back up you will also get a pulse.

This could work to your advantage.  Hard to predict the results.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2007, 08:05:33 PM »
I don't know that GK has claimed any OU in the form of heat or otherwise.  I was just asking him to perform this heat test if he can, as iron wire will get hot easily, its not really meant for circuits, its meant for tying plants up in the garden!

So, am waiting his results!


D.

To you and Pese. If I had used copper core my field generation would have been more dangerous? I made the next mistake for lack of control then. So let's backtrack. 555 drift, iron core, cheap pots. I feel like Alexander Graham Bell. These mis-doings were a true blessing. By using copper core now then there would be a greater field with less control. And the inverse would be better control with field limitation. Tesla used copper. Mannix said 'Don't change anything'. Maybe implied control till the freqs get figured out. And what I did is a great test platform for to play with. Just think how battered our faces would be if we ran before we crawled.

I agree with our speed of trying.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2007, 08:16:00 PM »

"Hello Dave,

I hope you and a few people with scopes will make the little test.

Make just a little coil.

Wind over your 2 fingers 50 turns of thin wire. Diameter is NOT important. Then connect one end to +12-13V. The other end to your MOSFET to pulse this coil.
Through this coil put a wire and connect it to the end of your coil where you pulse it. Now you have 1 end open. This end of the wire connect to a light bulb and the other end of the light bulb connect to minus.

Waiting for your results!!

Otto"


This is very similar to an automobile ignition system.  A twelve volt coil is pulsed by a set of points or electronically.  When the magnetic field collapses into the inner coil the voltage is increased from 12 to maybe 15,000 volts and is able to fire a spark plug.

The difference here is that the inner coil is not coiled but a single wire.  Hopefully the TPU uses resonance to increase the output to ou.  If it will not do this we have a dead end.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2007, 08:20:40 PM »
GK,

I agree, if it helps to reduce the effect, ie let you see it, but less dangerously then thats good.

I think what we are saying is that is heat generation in iron wire odd, no?  Is the heat generated, more than the input power?  Waiting on your test result.

Just wanted some clarification on what has been discovered because heat in a coil is expected isn't it?  Without some temperature and power readings how do you know what you have is odd?  I mean 12v at 3 amps, is going to make some heat?

Forgive me if I missed anything where you already covered this.


Best Regards,


Dave.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2007, 08:22:37 PM »
High grade car audio power cable ,maybe 8 gauge .
More than 700 strands of zero oxygen electronic
grade pure copper tined all the way through.

Buck a foot for KICKER  hyper flex wire.

Just a thought

Great! ;)

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2007, 08:28:51 PM »
GK,

I agree, if it helps to reduce the effect, ie let you see it, but less dangerously then thats good.

I think what we are saying is that is heat generation in iron wire odd, no?  Is the heat generated, more than the input power?  Waiting on your test result.

Just wanted some clarification on what has been discovered because heat in a coil is expected isn't it?  Without some temperature and power readings how do you know what you have is odd?

Forgive me if I missed anything where you already covered this.


Best Regards,


Dave.

I don't have the radient energy detector from c0m yet. So I need to get a tuning fork and thermometer setup to do. A simple test would be to see when the sweet spot hits and look at amps at the PSU. Yeh? But the the sweet spot is very tight and the heat jacks up!

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2007, 08:34:22 PM »
GK,

Just wondering, have you been able to connect a resistor on the output coil and place a scope across it?  What sort of power are you able to see?

At least we can say your input power is about 36 to 40 watts?


Thanks,

Dave.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2007, 09:10:40 PM »
GK,

Just wondering, have you been able to connect a resistor on the output coil and place a scope across it?  What sort of power are you able to see?

At least we can say your input power is about 36 to 40 watts?


Thanks,

Dave.
I scope at the meeting point of the top collector input and the watt resistor and plus scope ground. Besides, where is the load point?

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #54 on: January 07, 2007, 10:49:27 PM »
@GK,

Otto said from the end of the feedback coil that connects to the collectors and other end to the negative rail of the PS.

BTW, almost there, I am using all copper.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #55 on: January 07, 2007, 10:58:18 PM »
GK, I've finished winding the control coils on my GK replication TPU.

But I really need clarity on the circuit.

You have said you have 3x 100ohm 1/8 watt resistors, 3x 100 ohm 1/4 watt resistors, 6x 10 ohm 5 or 10 watt resistors (2 in parallel).

Basically I just need you to give your complete circuit, including 555 timer caps and resistors and single turn pots and all.

note: I can't get tip41a, so I got mosfets which I will drive with a push pull transistor pair.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #56 on: January 07, 2007, 11:00:30 PM »
@GK,

Otto said from the opposite end of the feedback coil that connectos to the collectors and the negative rail of the PS.

BTW, almost there, I am using all copper.

His diag I used has the feedback between the positive rail and all the outputs of the controllers not the collectors.

Now if CU is less resistive than FE you should get a more responsive snap which gives you a bigger faster field which gives you a faster effect which heats up the CU, Huh?

Than makes 1 iron core and 2 copper core. This ought to be interesting.

Build a cage!

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #57 on: January 07, 2007, 11:06:22 PM »
I thought that the one end of the collectors (all three) are connected to one end of the feedback and the other end of the feedback was to the positive rail.

He said in his post to conenct the load to the negative rail and the connection point where the feedback coil meets the collectors.

I could of mis interpreted his post but that is what I got from it.

Yes it should be interesting..

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #58 on: January 07, 2007, 11:06:09 PM »
GK, I've finished winding the control coils on my GK replication TPU.

But I really need clarity on the circuit.

You have said you have 3x 100ohm 1/8 watt resistors, 3x 100 ohm 1/4 watt resistors, 6x 10 ohm 5 or 10 watt resistors (2 in parallel).

Basically I just need you to give your complete circuit, including 555 timer caps and resistors and single turn pots and all.

note: I can't get tip41a, so I got mosfets which I will drive with a push pull transistor pair.

Fast pulses from groung to +v.
100 ohms to base.
collector to Otto's coil config. The hi watters are in the diag. and the freeback straight to +12v
All the 555 resistors are 200k pots, 2 per. duty and freq. the caps are 2.2Uf
Glad you are close. Gonna stay up late? I think so!
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #59 on: January 07, 2007, 11:14:12 PM »
I thought that the one end of the collectors (all three) are connected to one end of the feedback and the other end of the feedback was to the positive rail.

He said in his post to conenct the load to the negative rail and the connection point where the feedback coil meets the collectors.

I could of mis interpreted his post but that is what I got from it.

Yes it should be interesting..

Look at the diag the clockwise outputs are connected together and no where else. I thought so too. The ends are just connected togther and nowhere else. Shorted!
Get those jumps on now and then get to the next jumping.

We'll cover the load later because I don't have any negative. If you do you cancel any field generated.

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