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Lords of the Ring
« on: January 07, 2007, 05:53:14 AM »
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"One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to bind them,
One Ring to bring them all and from the darkness find them."

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Due to overwhelming response and suggestions, I figured I would comply. Today after it was found out that I was holding my TPU in my hand with hard kicks emminating from it, I was stoutly told to shield the unit and 'Don't touch the ring!'
That showed me that I had made great progress. This thread starts with those kicks that were so hard to acquire before that are now all over the place and dangerous. This thread also marks the great step into tuning. I shudder at the possibilites without safety and control.
Once upon a time there were 2 bicycle mechanics that wanted to fly. Now we're beyond the solar system. ;)

So let us not tarry any further... for we must not look back.

Welcome to the next step of the TPU. The Ring tune. Ta-da!

--giantkiller. Please extinguish all smoking material. We don't want to encourage any unwarranted results. Any and all results gotten reflect those of management at one point or another in time.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 05:14:34 AM by giantkiller »

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Lords of the Ring
« on: January 07, 2007, 05:53:14 AM »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 06:39:15 AM »
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I am listing the instructions here to wind and drive a TPU that produces kicks. Guaranteed!
A word of warning: There is a high degree of danger in doing this!
Overunity comes from the collaspe of the magnetic field.
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Devices such as lifters, the ECD, the Turbo coil, and this one here all exhibit the same
physical property called the wing edge effect. That is where the Radiant energy flies off.
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The rule is: DO NOT TOUCH THE RING! when it is on. You've been warned. I accept no responsibility for your attempts at completing this project. You are at your own risk. If you follow the instructions and end up in a dangerous situation, it is your fault, not mine. I have had my dangerous moment already and it isn't pleasant.

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I have gathered up the pictures of the device specifications at the bottom of this post.
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These instructions are the latest. This post supercedes all other posts.
Let's start off with with the coil specifications:
Coil diameter is 4", but this can vary, and consists of 3 layers of:
Collector coil is garden wire, 22 turns, standard size and there are 6" leads coming out.
Control coils are 4 segments of 30 gauge magnet wire, 200 turns in each segment.
The feedback coil is 16 gauge speaker wire (single run) wrapped around all layers in 4 segments of 17 turns.
Feedback and controls are wound using right hand rule. starting closest to you and winding over the top of the collector, down through the center, out the bottom, and back towards you, then back up to over the top following the turns to the left. Looking from the top we are traveling in a clockwise direction.
The control segments have 200 of these per segment and each turn is touching the last. There is a gap of about 1" between segments. they are proportionally spaced around the collectors.
The feedback windings are similar in their 17 turns. Each turn touches the last. There is about 1 1/4" gap between these segments.

Then interconnect the whole system by Ottos diagram shown at bottom of this post.
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I power the 555s with +5v and the tip41b-s with +12v. Bias resistors are 100 ohms.
Transistors like http://www.bourns.com/pdfs/tip41.pdf or equivilant.
The duty cycle resistances are 200k pots. The frequency duration resistances are 200k pots. The Tantalium capacitors range  in value from .01uf to 10uf. Switch them out to suite your tests.
My settings for frequency are <200hz for all 3 555s. Vary to suite your tests.
There is only +DC pulses.
My power supply is +12v @ 8.25a

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Now let me be the first to lead by example. As you can see by the picture we have captured the ellusive Ring. It is safely in its cage in a quiescent state at the moment. Fear not, should it be aroused. But for safety sake let's not awaken it from it's dormant place. We are now safe. Should the creature perk up and start chattering, it is secured in a shield of containment.

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What I have used here is screen door aluminum cloth, formed into a block secured with duct tape. The floor is perfboard with 2 layer screen underneath. Didn't want anything shorting out.

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Let's talk for a moment about the sweet spot when tuning.
I used my right hand for this test. Not good! I hope the tuning fork sound will replicate the ability of feeling the sweet hit. I call it sweet for a damn good reason. The field appears in smooth layers around your hand almost like a light plasma effect. This is when you feel the temperature jump up. You feel the kicks pulsating through your flesh. It's not the heat that is the problem. It is what you don't see. It is etched indelibly in my mind, no really, headache and eye ache included. If I can get some sort of tool to catch what I felt that would be tantamount! I would then have a console indicator. And with that measurement I can trip a kill switch with a visual feedback indicator automagically. I could use a heat trip but I need to balance between heat level and desired results.

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I worked the previous days without using any shielding and suffered a severe headache.
We are past the stage of just winding a coil and turning it on.
This stage of building means business.
I tested the cage in my weakened state and found out that I did not degrade any further. It only takes a matter of minutes to feel the effect of a closely tuned ring. My suspicion is if you feel the sweet spot on your hand, you then have achieved the headache in time. Turn the device off. Your fun is over for the time being.

Rule #1 for an active device?
DO NOT TOUCH THE RING!

Mandatory tools for this thread are a cage! The warning above still applies.
If you tune without a cage you are exposing yourself to harmful waves.
The kicks kick ass. Yours!

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Current Must things to do:
Replace the potentiometers with a higher quality. This will definately change the results.
Consolidate the mag wires tighter into the coil. This is to prevent breakage during portability.
Apply Thermometer to coil for temperature tests in sequence with locating the sweet spot of tuning.
Apply Amperage meter in line with PSU in sequence with locating the sweet spot of tuning.
Apply Tuning fork on coil. I'll bet you this is better than using magnets when locating the sweet spot of tuning or cooking my hand!

I will post the results here of the Potentiometer replacement.

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Additional specifications
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If you just want to skip ahead to the final answer
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg32490.html#msg32490

Words of affirmation
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21446.html#msg21446
Words from on high
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21532.html#msg21532
GK4 kicks
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21633.html#msg21633
Radiant energy explaination
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21701.html#msg21701
Ark of the Covenant
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg21846.html#msg21846
GK5 hooked up
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22046.html#msg22046
TPU coil pictures
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22262.html#msg22262
Radiant diagram
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22324.html#msg22324
SM ring construction
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22651.html#msg22651
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22789.html#msg22789
SM17 operation
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22793.html#msg22793
SM17 Hieroglyphic
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg22841.html#msg22841
Coil Drive specifications
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24115.html#msg24115
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24372.html#msg24372
SM17 test platform
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24409.html#msg24409
Interfering frequencies
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg24501.html#msg24501

This just in......
The term 'flyback' probably originated because the high voltage pulse that
charges the CRT capacitance is generated by the collapse of the magnetic
field in the core of the transformer during the short retrace period - when
the electron beam in the CRT 'flies back' to the start of a new scan line.
The flux in the core changes slowly during scan and is abruptly switched
in polarity by the HOT turning off and damper diode turning on during this
flyback or retrace period.
http://www.repairfaq.org/REPAIR/F_flytest.html#FLYTEST_006

I bet you the exploding TV had an open transformer arrangement in it and probably cheap potting material. Today it is a wonderfully strange looking device, heavily shielded and so are the drive electronics.

B+ ------+     +----|>|-----+---o +V1  B+ ------+     +----|>|-----+---o +HV
         o )|:|( o  Scan     |                  o )|:|(   Flyback   | 
           )|:|(  Rectifier _|_                   )|:|(  Rectifier _|_
           )|:|(            ---                   )|:|(            ---
           )|:|(             |                    )|:|(             |
     _/\_  )|:|(             |              _/\_  )|:|( o           |
HOT ------+     +------------+--+      HOT ------+     +------------+--+
                               _|_                                    _|_
                                -                                      -
Step up xfrmr, diode and a cap. Hmmm, looks like a stungun. If there was a spark gap after this you can kiss your cheeks goodbye. Danger, Will Robinson!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1872.msg26692.html#msg26692
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Flyback, stungun, retrace, bedini motor ckt all the same. Kicks, kicks, kicks.
Feed em back, let 'em fly. Circulate them puppies. Run 'em around.
This oughta make things simple.
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Otto's jumpering shows just this. Freqs in at the bottom and circuit on top to +v. I will go back and try this. I have to rewire GK4 to this. Was gonna do this anyway. But this time the feedback connected in reverse.

The collapse of the wave was the overall theme of the Dale Pond google video. In the exploding TV story remember the nails flew around the room. The child was probably killed from objects behind him.
Nature abhors a vacuum. Thanks Dr. Malcolm.
Male physics is the science of expansion while female physics is the science of contraction. Don't laugh. Watch the video. We cannot be anything different than our environment. Overunity comes from the collaspe of the magnetic field.
Never get between a mother and her children!

We want your stay here to be a pleasant one.
Thank you for your participation, the management.

--giantkiller.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 05:18:54 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 06:45:03 AM »
Giantkiller,

Love the topic name!

Played around most of the day on my TPU and still nothing. I still think it is the generators I'm using. I tried putting MOSFETs between the generators and coils with no luck. One thing I did see is that two of the generators are running past the zero voltage and into the negative. Probably no good. I am also still trying to figure out where exactly to measure the output from. By hooking up the windings as Otto has posted really screw up the infeed waveforms which doesn't seem right. I hope someone is still up and around to give me some ideas for tomorrow.

Tim

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Re: Lords of the Ring
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 06:50:21 AM »
GK,

Nice box. I have an old microwave that is not used and I thought of putting the TPU inside. But I am sure that I will be told that the microwave is running the coil. ;D

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 06:52:35 AM »
I scope at between the top collector and the watt resistor. Do your freqs come out of the drivers?

--giantkiller.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2007, 01:12:55 AM by giantkiller »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2007, 06:55:08 AM »
GK,

Nice box. I have an old microwave that is not used and I thought of putting the TPU inside. But I am sure that I will be told that the microwave is running the coil. ;D

Tnx. Cheap too compared to the headache. I don't think the micro will cause you any grief.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 07:07:23 AM »
GK,

I've tried both ways. Direct to the coils and then through the MOSFETs. Otto also mentioned that he is not using the resistors (12 ohm) that he shows in the drawings. Do you think I should put them in?

Right now the time is around 1:00AM. I am in Canada about 30 miles south-east of Detroit.

Tim

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 07:23:07 AM »
can you post a description of your setup?  Doesn't sound right.  should have small pulse or other triggr to mosfet and then large pulse across mosfet.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 07:56:36 AM »
Grumpy,

I know. I keep thinking that I wound or connected something wrong. I must have checked 20 times. All windings are wound clockwise. Four separate windings per layer connected as Tesla patent / Otto's explanation. I really think that the coils are alright. I think my problem is with the signals. As I mentioned, I am using 3 separate frequency generators. I feel that this is the problem since I am not using a single power source. If the three control windings were separate it should be no problem. But, according to Otto's drawing, the control winding are also connected to the collectors which is where I think the problem of "common ground" could be an issue. Even with the MOSFETs being driven by three generators, there would be a common ground issue.

One thing that was interesting is that I connected the control winding layers in series and then connected them in series with the collectors, just for the hell of it. I was getting 20mv spikes that ran around the 2.5kHz range. I shut off the generators and moved it away from everything. Only had the scope hooked up. Pretty weird.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 07:56:36 AM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2007, 08:28:25 AM »
Got a nice buzz going, so let's hav a look:

hmm - hang on - buying some bulk components in another window - caps and resistors...

one more time:

1. many ways to wind coils and connect them.
2. 3 frequencies - not my idea - fundamental, 3rd, and 5th, produce steep rise and fall of pulse - this is good - must be synched or doesn't work.
3. shit can the 3 freqs and just send a pulse to your mosfets - short pulse - recommend mosfet speed up components - see "Pulsers only" section pdf's.  You guys are mixing ideas together  - crossing them up - and getting freaky stuff

Otto's wiring is NOT the only way, SM's wiring is not the only way - shit - ain't even the best way or even that good - inefficient as hell.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2007, 08:44:35 AM »
GK,
Great that you started this thread!

Just a quick one to all who want to do the ring thing

Please

Do exactly as gk has done........do not change a thing.
do not add "improvments"...a few timers and a few commomly available transistors.

All this stuff is around most places!

It may take 5 hours max...get it right.

This may not be a working generator but a discovery tool...and a beauty at that!

Even though I say copper.collectors...that may be later.

GK, you might have to do some complete drawings ..again..including timer circuits.. and rebuild another from them so that everybody can get on the exact same page. Gk, thanks for your patience...perhaps you deserve a rest anyway.


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 08:54:59 AM »
Give me a freakin' break.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2007, 09:30:00 AM »
Hi GK,

You said 12v, 3amps input, in a few ohms, thats gonna make some heat.  How do you know its not OU yet, what is your power out measurements?

Do the 2 x 10 ohm resistors get hot, as hot as, or hotter than the TPU itself?


Thanks,

Dave.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2007, 09:54:14 AM »
GK,

Gonna wind a new TPU as per yours and Ottos instructions next week.  Would you be kind enough just to re-confirm the the below details?


Garden wire is standard size and there are 6" leads coming out of the collectors.

My 555s are @ 5v the tip41a-s are @ 12v. Bias ohms are 100.

Again:

Coil diam is 6"

3 layers of:

Collector coil is garden wire, 22 turns.

Control coils are 4 segments of 30 gauge magnet wire, 200 turns on each collector.

The feedback coil is 16 gauge speaker wire (single run) wrapped around all layers in 4 segments of 17 turns.

Then interconnect the whole system by Ottos diagram.

I power the 555s @ 5v and the tip41a-s @ 12v.

Freq range is 200hz for all 3 555s.

My new power supply is 12v @ 8.25a



Regards,

Dave.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2007, 10:45:59 AM »
Dear all,

Further to Ottos and GKs tests, Otto has asked me to post this diagram for everyone to try.  For some reason he has problems posting images here.

I am not sure what it is to do yet, he says it will be a surprise!  So I am hoping its a proof of concept!


D.


"Hello Dave,

I hope you and a few people with scopes will make the little test.

Make just a little coil.

Wind over your 2 fingers 50 turns of thin wire. Diameter is NOT important. Then connect one end to +12-13V. The other end to your MOSFET to pulse this coil.
Through this coil put a wire and connect it to the end of your coil where you pulse it. Now you have 1 end open. This end of the wire connect to a light bulb and the other end of the light bulb connect to minus.

Waiting for your results!!

Otto"

 

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