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Author Topic: Lords of the Ring  (Read 764415 times)

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2007, 04:44:21 PM »
Hi Bill,

The two guys where Graham Gunderson and his flat mate at the time.  I think he left the positive end of a HV transformer which was oscillating, on the surface of a large BaFe magnet for some hours and found that after it would retain a small self oscillation, but not for long.  He reported headaches and bad moods and came to blows with his friend!

I once played around with a mobius coil and some quartz and kept getting head aches after it had been on for a while.



Regards,

Dave.

Morning,
I slept off the headache and pain. And doing fine, no aches. Didn't even kick my dogs, God forbid. But I will keep that test result in mind.
We are not tinkering anymore. We have crossed over to the serious dangerous zone!
Hellooo, I hurt myself and got a group warning on how to protect myself? And all kinds of vintage posters and knowledgable newbies pop up out the woodwork with great intent and concern? Thank you for that support. I am a believer. I know what I have done here and it's not the final step. But probably the most dangerous one because there is energy coming out of the ring.

SM said small steps. I now know why. This lastest ring is an excellant platform for the next step. Thank you, Steven Mark and Lindsay Mannix.

--giantkiller. It's all good.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2007, 04:44:21 PM »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2007, 04:51:35 PM »
@CTG

frio "this" Circuit the bulb muste give also ligth "without" pulses.
because this is connect to +12 to 13 volts.
P.

I see this wrong ?
« Last Edit: January 07, 2007, 06:49:28 PM by pese »

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2007, 04:54:08 PM »
Hi Pese, I know as much as you, its from Otto, not me.



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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2007, 04:54:08 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2007, 05:07:15 PM »
Pese,

I just got what you mean.  Yes, as Dom said, the bulb will always be on, but will have pulses in it too.

@Everyone, Otto has said that his previous work and the diagram he published is s..t, all capacitive coupling, nothing going on and this circuit is just to show that, because its what his TPU is based on.

What he also says is that he has found something else and we should be ready to drink beer.  I do not know what this something else is yet, but it was something he found after staring at this circuit and realising his mistake for which he blames himself.  But its lead to something new.  We are all waiting...


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2007, 05:23:25 PM »
Pese,

I just got what you mean.  Yes, as Dom said, the bulb will always be on, but will have pulses in it too.

@Everyone, Otto has said that his previous work and the diagram he published is s..t, all capacitive coupling, nothing going on and this circuit is just to show that, because its what his TPU is based on.

What he also says is that he has found something else and we should be ready to drink beer.  I do not know what this something else is yet, but it was something he found after staring at this circuit and realising his mistake for which he blames himself.  But its lead to something new.  We are all waiting...


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@Dave,
           I agree

@ Otto,
             All I See is a dimley light bulb. And nothing more.. Did i pass the test?
                                     Moab

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2007, 05:23:25 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2007, 05:26:40 PM »
GK, are you able to bury a K-type probe inside your TPU, then have a digital thermometer.  Note the temperature and the input power.  Then connect the same coil just across a variable DC supply and adjust it until you get the same temperature, then note down the DC voltage and current it took to make this heat and compare it to your original input power.  Then we can see if this heat generated takes more power to make than is running the TPU.


Regards,

Dave.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2007, 05:37:13 PM »
GK,

Gonna wind a new TPU as per yours and Ottos instructions next week.  Would you be kind enough just to re-confirm the the below details?


Garden wire is standard size and there are 6" leads coming out of the collectors.

My 555s are @ 5v the tip41a-s are @ 12v. Bias ohms are 100.

Again:

Coil diam is 6"

3 layers of:

Collector coil is garden wire, 22 turns.

Control coils are 4 segments of 30 gauge magnet wire, 200 turns on each collector.

The feedback coil is 16 gauge speaker wire (single run) wrapped around all layers in 4 segments of 17 turns.

Then interconnect the whole system by Ottos diagram.

I power the 555s @ 5v and the tip41a-s @ 12v.

Freq range is 200hz for all 3 555s.

My new power supply is 12v @ 8.25a



Regards,

Dave.

If that is the unchanged list then by all means start cookin'. I made 1 mistake, out of many, the diam is 4" not 6". Just less labor and parts. Another poster is doing a 6". Betcha that one works too.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2007, 05:37:13 PM »
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2007, 05:40:38 PM »
@grumpy. you're right. Sloppy as hell. Been saying that all along. And I proved it.
iron came a post,
4" diam came from a post,
22 collector turns came from a post,
6" collector leads, my idea to get the connectors out terminal posts that was your idea,
TPU#3 had fat copper collectors, switched to magwire, c0mster's post, I got harmonics,
I lived and breathed Tesla patents for 2 months! When I saw the movie contact again and noticed how the design sheets for those 'RINGS' were connected. I shit my pants. That instance showed me what to do. I posted that I laid all his diags out and moved them all around till I saw the pattern I needed. And do you know what the secret was? Low turn fat copper, high turn small copper. In all his diags. Thank you Jodee Foster/Carl Sagan!

controllers of 200 hundred turns, my idea, arbitrary. Small wire it fits.
4 controller segments came from a post,
4 feedbak segments, thank you Otto. I just did it and did not ask questions.
Lampcord feedback, from multiple SM videos. 17 turns? arbitrary.

jumpered? Ottos drawing. I just followed the lines.
3x555s, mine, posted way back in September somewhere. Why use anything else? Obvious.
The controller circuit, mine, designed on a laptop flying down the highway to the VLA,
Power supply?, sitting on a shelf,
the safety cage came from a post,
the 555 drift, a number of posts. The drift is my friend. Without that I would've blown my self up. My right hand still works and I can see out of my left eye still.
I took my large wire layout and consolidated it down to a portable size. SPherenot, Dave and Joehan. Do I need it now? no. But I will and then won't have to figure it out last minute.
where did I get the freqs from? many posts and I played. Wait till you get the sweet spot! I felt it. As dangerous as it is it was the most phenonimal thing I ever felt! C0m felt it on his MT coil in a lab we did together also.

Everybody elses crap thrown together. LOL.

@all,
So until anybody gets their perfection on board with a working ring then there is no room for theory or slander. Or, ya'll go around and the kick tires all you want. I am driving down the highway to the next event.

--giantkiller.

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2007, 05:45:06 PM »
GK, are you able to bury a K-type probe inside your TPU, then have a digital thermometer.  Note the temperature and the input power.  Then connect the same coil just across a variable DC supply and adjust it until you get the same temperature, then note down the DC voltage and current it took to make this heat and compare it to your original input power.  Then we can see if this heat generated takes more power to make than is running the TPU.


Regards,

Dave.
Aye on the thermometer. I'd rather watch the turkey cook than be the turkey.
Tnx
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Re: Lords of the Ring
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2007, 05:46:42 PM »
 Another poster is doing a 6". Betcha that one works too.

--giantkiller

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Thanks for the vote of confidence GK
6" core are done and just for grins I'm 20 ga copper..thin insulated.
Working on the mag wire 200's now.
Thanks
Jon

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2007, 06:03:00 PM »
Hi all,

Its probably the layout and the connections that matter most, rather than the guage of the wire.  But for continuity better to make as close to GKs one as possible for now, then start to play.  I will knock one up as soon as I can.



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Re: Lords of the Ring
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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2007, 06:30:11 PM »
Would radiation be a candidate in the form of heat - lot's of it  - with an 8 amp PSU - ouch?

The heat will be greater with iron wire in the core  because of eddy current flow. Try a solid iron core and you will be able to use the TPU as a cooking plate to fry up your eggs & bacon. Yes, be very careful with EM at this level. I've had the headaches myself after very short periods and when those TPU's are squealling away, please remember the effect of high audio frequencies on any pets around.

There will be no ceremonial lighting of 100W bulbs unless that energy can be fairly efficiently induced to the secondary. An inverter will do the job better but will take most of the 8 amps. As I see things at the moment, the real challenge is still out there to replicate the master's TPU which needs no input power or perhaps just a teeny bit from a tiny battery.




Otto wrote: -

Did you ever ask yourself why we have NO POWER in our coils?
Where is the POWER???
Why cant we make even a 40W light bulb to light?
We feed into our coils 1 or 2 or 3 or even more amperes but nothing. Where is the Power gone???

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2007, 06:55:53 PM »
@GK
Garden wire (iron) have higher ohmic resistance than copper.
so it will be make heat !!

It is shure that you have more heat out, than power in to the circuit ?

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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2007, 07:15:27 PM »
I don't know that GK has claimed any OU in the form of heat or otherwise.  I was just asking him to perform this heat test if he can, as iron wire will get hot easily, its not really meant for circuits, its meant for tying plants up in the garden!

So, am waiting his results!


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Re: Lords of the Ring
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2007, 07:26:03 PM »
Another poster is doing a 6". Betcha that one works too.

--giantkiller


Thanks for the vote of confidence GK
6" core are done and just for grins I'm 20 ga copper..thin insulated.
Working on the mag wire 200's now.
Thanks
Jon

So there are just 2 changes so far. A 6" diam with copper core.
Ok. So are there any changes to the controllers besides the new distance which equals more turns? And I don't think it matters.
This is the pattern i've seen: Fat wire next to very thin wire and then you adjust the freqs ad hoc. Multiple freqs give a higher collision level with fast on times. Rate also as you adjust the 3. Expulsion of energy from the cross impacting fields.
Length of wire, gauge of wire, number of fields per a given measured area. Remember what Tesla said "1200hz is a very high freq." LOL. His models incorporated high copper volume, very wide range of wire turns and what we today call 'Low freq'.  Today we work with very low copper volume and high freqs.
Radiant energy looks like conduction externally because that power can't get through the copper because of its high speed. The potential has to balance out so it goes the path of least resistance. Wow, think about that. So in these TPUs we cause the reaction magnetically and the copper can't absorb / conduct fast enough so the energy spreads out till is slows down, can you say power loss?, to a speed that the copper can conduct at. c0m & I just didn't feel heat. It has a thickness to it. Ok, so well done is tougher than medium rare. LOL.

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