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Rhead100

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1110 on: September 10, 2009, 10:36:29 PM »
What is MIT saying about this machine might I ask? 

By the way, adding more weight to the pendulum increases the centripetal force generated.  If you released the weight from a 90 degree vertical position the centripetal force is 2mg (twice the mass of the weight times gravity).  This was rather bewildering to me because the length of the rod makes no difference.  This is because at free fall, the velocity is a function of the rod length and it drops out of the equation so all is left is the factor 2, the mass, and gravity.  Turns out the rod length increases the stored energy in the system (and reduces the frequency) - which is important if you have a load with a certain energy requirement. 

I'm interested to hear where Rhead100 thinks the excess energy is coming from.  I think its from gravity.
Actually  Charlie_V ,  That is where the extra energy comes from, gravity.  I made that statement not for intelligent people such as yourself and me. BUT for the stupid NAY Sayers on you tube that say gravity is not  energy, and there is no way to use it.
The 2 stage oscillator not only works on the same "princable", as the US, NASA , deep space probes sling shot around other planets to accelerate them with a minimal expenditure of fuel.  It uses almost the same mathematics but with a slight tweek here and there.
   
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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1111 on: September 10, 2009, 11:02:50 PM »
Rhead100

 Welcome to the forum. Pendulums have interesting effects and I truly don't believe many people truly understand them. I have been working on an accelerating effect for a pendulum to see if I could keep it going. I have improved on the swing but it is not enough. But I will continue to work with the possibilities and I have designed this device for easy change to work with.

Keep up the good work

Alan

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1112 on: September 10, 2009, 11:47:47 PM »
Rhead100

 Welcome to the forum. Pendulums have interesting effects and I truly don't believe many people truly understand them. I have been working on an accelerating effect for a pendulum to see if I could keep it going. I have improved on the swing but it is not enough. But I will continue to work with the possibilities and I have designed this device for easy change to work with.

Keep up the good work


Alan

Hi Alan and thinks for the welcome.
Your work sounds very interesting I would like to see it.  Do you have videos on the net somewhere ???
I ;  personaly am working on an escapment idea much like that in an old grandfather clock that is powered by weights instead of a spring.  After all,  the 2 stage oscillator can pick up a lot of weight. And everyone knows it takes very little weight to keep the pendulum swinging for a very long time.

     Raymond   RHead100

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1113 on: September 10, 2009, 11:58:58 PM »

Milkovic's oscillator sure is interesting.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2009, 12:19:50 AM by TechStuf »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1114 on: September 11, 2009, 05:35:22 AM »
My problem with this videos is that the files are too large to post to you tube. OR at the least I don't know how to post them on you tube.  They run over 400 megs and 15 minutes each.  Is there anyone out there that can help me get them on the net for everyone to see ?????

The best place to share your videos is YouTube, but YouTube has limited the video lenght and size to ordinary users. The maximum video length for your videos is 10:59 min and 2 GB video size. So, try to limit each your video to 10:59 min. or if it is 15 min. split it in 2 parts, giving them a name like "Milkovic oscillator... part 1/2" and upload them one by one. Giving these marks "part 1/2" and "part 2/2" you will explain people there is a second part of the video... (if you choose this second option). The best and easiest software for splitting the videos is "Free Video Dub" - you can download it from the next link http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Video-Dub.htm

Hoping this will help and that we will watch your great achievements soon.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1115 on: September 11, 2009, 06:21:44 PM »

Rhead100

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1116 on: September 11, 2009, 11:31:57 PM »
  Rhead100,
 In the first video, it seems he forgot the next step.

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HA HA HA ;;;    I noticed that too  P-Motion.  Almost like he thought it was going to run by itself.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1117 on: September 12, 2009, 10:31:37 AM »

 I am wondering, about how long does it run ?


Hello, with this configuration the machine has not output power enough to light a bycicle lamp. I'm working for increasing power output, improving the system. Ciao!


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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1119 on: September 12, 2009, 05:12:59 PM »
  Hi Andrea,
 Rhead and me are thinking of something. There might be a way to make it perpetual. That would be the next step.
 I think with Milovic, he likes playing around with pendulums and that's okay by me. I have seen on one of his pages where he has sold water pumps (for wells?).
 I'm not sure if he has put much thought into over unity. He's been busy making some money.

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You could make it able to rotate all the way around. Then it would only be a matter of connecting it to a output wheel, with a gear, in other to return the extra energy back in the cycle again.

It will then use the centrifugal force to create an orbital motion instead of the common pendulum motion.

Julian

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1120 on: September 12, 2009, 05:21:12 PM »
  Hi Andrea,
 Rhead and me are thinking of something. There might be a way to make it perpetual. That would be the next step.
 I think with Milovic, he likes playing around with pendulums and that's okay by me. I have seen on one of his pages where he has sold water pumps (for wells?).
 I'm not sure if he has put much thought into over unity. He's been busy making some money.

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I don't know if there could be overunity, like you I really hope that this could be. The difficult is measuring the output (input = m*g*h) , the bike's wheel isn't the best way for me, it could be used only if you have a very great machine. I wanna try - like many guys told in this same thread before - to improve it with a water pump on the output. If we measure the water, should be definitevely clear if there is a surplus energy or not.  Bye  ;)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1121 on: September 12, 2009, 10:00:52 PM »
That would be interesting!
I can visualize it all in my head, the way it would move,  it's just the actual construction phase that worries me. Too many parts needed if it was to be fully self sufficient.

That's why I want it to be even more simple, and going more to the basics of its operation.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1122 on: September 12, 2009, 11:09:12 PM »
anyone see the videos i posted? what do you guys think?

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1123 on: September 13, 2009, 02:58:53 AM »
I think with Milovic, he likes playing around with pendulums and that's okay by me. I have seen on one of his pages where he has sold water pumps (for wells?).
 I'm not sure if he has put much thought into over unity. He's been busy making some money.

I'd be the first one who would buy such pendulum pump, but I didn't find it anywhere to order.
http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/rucnaPumpaEng.html
It seems it was a public demonstration rather than money making business :)

I ;  personaly am working on an escapment idea much like that in an old grandfather clock that is powered by weights instead of a spring.  After all,  the 2 stage oscillator can pick up a lot of weight. And everyone knows it takes very little weight to keep the pendulum swinging for a very long time.

Rhead,
why didn't you put a water pump for output work?
Pumping water is real work done and it seems it is pretty much easier to install some pump than a generator.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1124 on: September 13, 2009, 05:53:32 PM »
I offer close loop with compressed air. If such system can run by itself, then we have overunity. If pressure rises, this energy can be used for other purposes.
Can someone make calculations? Or may be a real model?