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Author Topic: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !  (Read 2237901 times)

Merg

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1125 on: September 14, 2009, 02:35:49 AM »
I offer close loop with compressed air. If such system can run by itself, then we have overunity. If pressure rises, this energy can be used for other purposes.
Can someone make calculations? Or may be a real model?

Thanks for submitting your idea. That is good, but in my opinion all ideas should be based on technical experience. Or at least you or someone else (who is skilled and equipped enough) should try it in practice.

TechStuf

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1126 on: September 14, 2009, 02:56:38 AM »

Forget compressed air and commensurate wasted complexity....it should be a simple matter, if surplus energy exists, to force couple to the hammer piston mechanically in order to continue driving the prime mover.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1127 on: September 14, 2009, 04:33:43 AM »
Interesting result using Working Model 2D.
Air Resistance set to High.

http://hackersclub.net/DSCN2427.AVI

« Last Edit: September 14, 2009, 12:35:20 PM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1128 on: September 14, 2009, 12:28:42 PM »
this is different than the others, software ran out of memory http://hackersclub.net/DSCN1083.AVI

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1129 on: September 14, 2009, 06:13:01 PM »
Still, unless someone like Andrea is interested ( she has a build ). When she gets her build working closer to what she likes, who knows, she might give it a thought.
 

I'm a boy not a lady...  ;D in Italy Andrea is a boys' name. Bye!

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1130 on: September 14, 2009, 07:47:19 PM »
I just realized that the peakiness of the pendulum's downward pull might be so useful for waterpump, to overcome initial stiction, making it easier to operate with muscle power. Whether it pumps more than a perfect level sytem powered by weights being lowered, I very much doubt.

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1131 on: September 15, 2009, 12:41:13 AM »
England is closer geographically to Italy than to the US ;-)

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1132 on: September 16, 2009, 04:51:40 AM »
We have reinforced the frame and given it a solid concret base. Two piers 3 ft. x 1.5 ft x 2 ft. one at each end.  And we formed them up with a self levaling laser.  Next we will drill the concret and fasten the steel base down to the piers.  This should give the base an additional 2700 pounds of support.
Next,  we are extending the frame to 25 feet to allow for the building of two small towers , one at each end to house the feed back esccapment arms.
We have already built a much more stable pendulum support arm and are just waiting to get the 2 towers in place before installing it and the pendulum.  However ;  we are considering a little heavyer pendulum and of a differant shape to make it more airodinamic.The power transfer base will be outside the main base of the unit and I am hopeing this will not affect it's opperation.  I am doing this to try and make it easyer to hookup a small generator.
I want the unit to power itself mechanicaly and then make some electricity without useing ANY of the electricity it makes to opperat it.
I do undrstand that everyone thinks me a little crazy to try to do what everyone with knowlage of math and physics says can not be done. BUT they are looking at old math and not the new math of combining two differant kinds of math to do a totaly differant job.   Every test I have done to date says it will work.
All in all,  when I get it finished.  Without the pendulum it will weigh upwards to 2 & 1/2 tons.  And this is only the experimental modle.
I will try to make a few videos as we build. Just keep in miend it is in the building stages and looks a little rough.   :o    Thanks.

        Raymond    RHead100
PS;  this guys site on you tube may give you some idea of what I am talking about.
http://www.youtube.com/user/BenVanDeWaal

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1133 on: September 16, 2009, 05:05:08 AM »
Raymond, I was thinking of saying this to you before, but now I just have to: you will have to watch your back! This is really a kinda big deal, I'm sure you know. Even if it isn't some big conspiracy, there's all kinds of people out there, and some might just be really furious on you for trying this, even if that seems weird.

Don't worry about the math or the physics of it, I am quite certain that this is understandable when we include more advanced physics, together with what I think is the core of its operation; the parametric resonance.

It will be very interesting to hear how your effort goes, if it goes well, well then a lot of people here will have to admit that they were wrong  :)
Bye,
Julian

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1134 on: September 17, 2009, 02:31:23 AM »
We have already built a much more stable pendulum support arm and are just waiting to get the 2 towers in place before installing it and the pendulum.  However ;  we are considering a little heavyer pendulum and of a differant shape to make it more airodinamic.The power transfer base will be outside the main base of the unit and I am hopeing this will not affect it's opperation.  I am doing this to try and make it easyer to hookup a small generator.

Go ahead Raymond!



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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1137 on: September 20, 2009, 11:13:15 PM »
 Before anyone gets too goo-goo about this machine I suggest they inspect the design of the ancient Chinese spoon-tilt hammer.  This new design is basically the ancient one with a twist-the pendulum, which means nothing but that it is a variant of the original.  It is also similar to other ancient machines like the Oliver (treadle hammer), and the Shadouf (Swape).
 There is a book M.I.T. press has for sale called 'Simple Working Models of Historic Machines' by Aubrey F. Burstall  ($20.00) that has examples of each of these ancient machines.
  A slight-of-hand may be at work here.  Shields up!
                                                  Regards,
                                                              Russell Lee

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1138 on: September 21, 2009, 01:20:37 AM »
The best place to share your videos is YouTube, but YouTube has limited the video lenght and size to ordinary users. The maximum video length for your videos is 10:59 min and 2 GB video size. So, try to limit each your video to 10:59 min. or if it is 15 min. split it in 2 parts, giving them a name like "Milkovic oscillator... part 1/2" and upload them one by one. Giving these marks "part 1/2" and "part 2/2" you will explain people there is a second part of the video... (if you choose this second option). The best and easiest software for splitting the videos is "Free Video Dub" - you can download it from the next link http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Video-Dub.htm

Hoping this will help and that we will watch your great achievements soon.

THANKS  Merg;   Your the best.  took me a while to get the time to learn how to use it. But I have it down pat now.    was able to split one of my best but longer videos and upload them on youtube today.  Please do not forget to read the discription to the right of the videos.  Try to watch them in order.

Video "A"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMq53NPttUk&feature=channel_page

Video "B"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQv1Z6Tbyus&feature=channel_page

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Re: 12 times more output than input, dual mechanical oscillation system !
« Reply #1139 on: September 21, 2009, 02:33:33 AM »
Before anyone gets too goo-goo about this machine I suggest they inspect the design of the ancient Chinese spoon-tilt hammer.  This new design is basically the ancient one with a twist-the pendulum, which means nothing but that it is a variant of the original.  It is also similar to other ancient machines like the Oliver (treadle hammer), and the Shadouf (Swape).
 There is a book M.I.T. press has for sale called 'Simple Working Models of Historic Machines' by Aubrey F. Burstall  ($20.00) that has examples of each of these ancient machines.
  A slight-of-hand may be at work here.  Shields up!
                                                  Regards,
                                                              Russell Lee
Hi Russell;;;   I really like the way you put that. 
"This new design is basically the ancient one with a twist-the pendulum, which means nothing but that it is a variant of the original."

Like the F-!4  Tom-cat is basically the ancient one with a twist-  better aerodynamic design, Aluminum Alloys, and jets that can produce many more pounds of throust per pound of engne weight.instead of the old prop planes.
I am with you all the way Buddy.  There is nothing new on this earth.  Only improvements to old ideas.
Purly for the sack of discution.  Let us say. The machine does not put out more energy than is put in.  AND, At the same time acknowlage the given Fact that it operates Exactly oposet of every other machine on this planet. In that the more resistance is put on the machine the easyer it is to operate.  Would this not mean that there is "A POSSABILATY"  that it just might, or could be,  THE most effeciant machine ever designed to this date.
I proposs ;;;;;    IF; it is possible. Then it is worth my time to look into. And any constructive sugjestions you could come up with would be welcomed with OPEN arms.
I honestly say to you. Your sugjestion that this may be an ancient design with a twist- the pendulum.   This thrills me to no end.  For IF, the pendulum is an improvement on the old design.  Then maybe we need to improve the penduluim next.  And seeing as the pendulum has been around for some time now.  Maybe it is time to think 'IMPROVEMENT" of the pendulum.  As I have stated in one of my videos. We have redesigned the pendulum to reduce air friction by over 95%. And when we can afford it ,  all bearings will be tefflon coated.
I tell you now with 100% knowlage (not thiory) anyone that is not sure of this machine or has second thoughts as to wether it works or not. Has not  operated one with his or her own hands.
I wil now formaly give an OPEN invatation to every one in this forum that has second thoughts as to this machine, to come to my home and try it out for yourself.

                       Raymond   RHead100