I have collected the posts related to Milkovic's oscillator from other topics
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Ted EwertI am not implying that a rotating pendulum is incapable of producing extra energy. Milkovic has shown how his oscillator generates energy from a pendulum. The problem is that the Chalkalis device will not produce any extra energy on the main shaft as it has been presented.
You'll see this for yourself if you build a replica. Then you can figure out a real way of extracting energy from this device.
Cheers,
Ted
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CloxxkiMilkovic has shown nothing, other than a nice way to get high torque out for short pulses, from longer low-torque, equal work input. Not one replication, even a recent genious one that had full syncronization from output to input, (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJsXLiLNJHA ) was unable to keep going, let alone offer the 12x claimed output.
If you've ever seen a better attempt, let alone by Milkovic himself, please let me know, I'd be most interested to see, study, and replicate it.
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Ted EwertThat was indeed an elaborate and clever attempt to loop a pendulum, but I could have told you it wasn't going to work. I've tried the same thing only to find that the timing of the pulse is critical. If the feedback pulse is applied at the wrong time it won't work no matter what you do. The Milkovic device is also primarily an oscillator, which denotes resonance. This attempt never got anywhere near resonance, which in itself invalidates any conclusions.
Not being able to loop the output power only proves that the method used was unsuccessful. It does not prove anything else. The attempt cited here merely shows me that this guy didn't really understand the primary mechanism to begin with.
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CloxxkiI think your response doesn't do the attempt justice. I, for one, don't believe or at least don't understand the hype about resonances. I've yet to find a situation where 1+1=3.
Would you like to venture that a similarly looped system will prove to be a source of energy when merely timed a bit better? This would imply that indeed timing of an input pulse is vital. And that then would imply that energy is lost or won, depending on timing of release. Such a statement would be going against preservation of energy.
Anyway, what do I know. So many geniouses are devoting their free time to Milkovic, and all we get is odd oscillations, always under unity.
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Ted EwertThe guy who built that feedback mechanism didn't understand how the Milkovic oscillator really works. It's as simple as that. The impulse should be applied at the top of the stroke, not at the bottom. Also, if you have too much vertical travel, like this guy did, it takes all the velocity out of the pendulum. There is also a delicate balance between the pendulum weight, it's period, the length of the lever and the weight or springs used. He was dead in the water before he started.
Until you build a Milkovic replication and get it into resonance, you are just fooling around with a very inefficient pendulum.
Milkovic calls it an oscillator for the simple reason that it doesn't work worth beans until it is oscillating (in resonance).
Very few people take the time and effort to really understand what's going on with his device, which is well worth replication and study.
Ted
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XaveriusClosing the loop on this device should be simple in principle. You could use a solenoid plunger or pulse motor rotation. Have you checked the results of Raymond Heade's work in the Dallas Texas area? He was supposed to have built a large outdoor device with an attachment to close the loop in October of 2009. I haven't kept up with it lately, you might write Raymond, he's easy to talk to and his input is in these forums.
