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Author Topic: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW  (Read 62139 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2015, 01:31:49 AM »
Here are still 2 more pics, one of the backside, that I had not seen
before and one of the right cabinet box opened.

In the right cabinet box opened you can see, that the generator cable is
inserted there through the bottom of the cabinet at the left side and is
clamped fixed to the panel there.

At the dismantling day, there was no cable at the backside....

The question now is, what cable is that at the back side with the red connector bush
on this cabinet and from which day was this picture ?


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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2015, 01:37:18 AM »
Sorry, I was confused,
we donĀ“t see here the backside, but just the right side of the cabinet box in this picture...
http://overunity.com/15755/how-rosch-probably-faked-their-5-kwatt-kpp-aukw/dlattach/attach/149555/

Sorry.... is a bit late now already here...
Okay, the red 3 phase connector then goes to the lamp loads and heater panels...

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2015, 01:42:03 AM »
Okay, this was the source picture. I was a bit confused by the view perspektive...

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2015, 01:42:03 AM »
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #48 on: May 19, 2015, 10:29:48 PM »
according to PESN, SA and SC have been invited to an all-expense paid trip to see the magical machines first hand.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #49 on: May 20, 2015, 02:46:01 AM »
according to PESN, SA and SC have been invited to an all-expense paid trip to see the magical machines first hand.

They should have included Mark Dansie and Stefan.  Then we would have people there that we would believe, and they actually know what they are doing.

Bill

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #50 on: May 20, 2015, 03:07:01 AM »
They should have included Mark Dansie and Stefan.  Then we would have people there that we would believe, and they actually know what they are doing.

Bill
Of course they have.  Those two are poster children for "suspend disbelief".

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #51 on: May 20, 2015, 01:19:47 PM »
We've seen the photos of where the bracket attached to the wall, and it certainly looks to me like there has been a hole filled in there. But what about the place where that bracket attached to the _tube_ itself? It would not be possible to weld that location without repainting the tube, I think. Does anyone have any photos that show this area? A view from the inside of the tube showing the attach point would be very instructive, I think.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #52 on: May 20, 2015, 01:38:18 PM »
They should have included Mark Dansie and Stefan.  Then we would have people there that we would believe, and they actually know what they are doing.

Bill
Thanks Bill but in reality I always employ engineers and scientists who have much more skills than me. I help with designing the methodology and looking for the trick lol. (its like going to a a magic show and figuring it out.


I know some good scientists in Germany who would do an excellent job. Mark E would be the person I would most like to see.


But that will never happen and we know why.
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2015, 01:06:59 AM »
SC on pestricky said


"I had a close look to see where this hose went a week or so ago. I was curious because I thought they may have a valve on the tank to drain it rather than this sort of set-up.


That hose there is the filling/topping up hose.When it needed topping up, they just connected another hose to it.From what I was able to see on dis-assembly day, this hose runs down to the bottom of the tank. It seems to be quite a fat hose in comparison to the virtual garden hose connected on to it. Which kinda puzzled me why it needed to be so big.
When they drained the tank, they connected the hose to this fitting.
Other views/thoughts on this ?"


Well my immediate thought was to wonder if it was simply a compressed air hose, if it was a water top up hose it would only need to be at the top!


If it is a compressed air hose it would need to feed into the buoyancy cups at the bottom.


If it were a top up hose then it is strange that there is a rust mark on the inside of the unit only half way up, did someone forget to turn on the tap.........


Clearly the scam is childish in all respects except that it is fleecing people of money.


The simplest way for them to prove the device would be to simply mechanically link the output to a shaft drive air compressor, then even if it just kept turning without a load for a day MarkE and others would be moved to question reason.





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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2015, 05:12:25 AM »

Clearly the scam is childish in all respects except that it is fleecing people of money.

The simplest way for them to prove the device would be to simply mechanically link the output to a shaft drive air compressor, then even if it just kept turning without a load for a day MarkE and others would be moved to question reason.




I fully agree
The other way is to just measure the torque on the output shaft with no generator connected and then just measure electricity consumed by the compressor. The output will always be less than the input. Why they avoid these simple proof of concepts is beyond reasonable doubt.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #55 on: June 12, 2015, 08:40:28 PM »
Sterling's new "Rosch demo wager" is a con.

This is probably not news to most, but just in case I will elaborate.

People are voting on a webpage under Sterling's control about whether a floaty thing works.
Note : this wager has nothing to do with if it really works or not, but merely on the vote tally.
The wager terms state that a voter can remain private.
So what if 20 of Sterling's private friends outvote real people.
The method of verification also remains a secret.



What does Sterling have to gain ?

if enough money is pledged
1. per the appendix A. budget,   $2800 will be used to to pay off some of Sterling's loan.
2. also   $2750   will be used for another paid vacation.
3. if the thing fails to work, then he would likely have about   $5000  worth of "generator" / other parts to sell.

if not enough money is pledged
4. "the uncommitted skeptics will be counted as cowards"


What does Sterling have to lose ?

1. moving an item on an arbitrary internet list from 1 to 6.



Now, am I saying that I think Sterling is attempting to perpetrate a con?

Well, in another area of his life, after being rejected numerous times by a famous performer,
he has written at least two webpages documenting an upcoming "accident" that will
happen to her, and that the result o that "accident" will be her ending up as his wife.


I know most here feel confident in the final outcome of this Rosch story,
and may be tempted to humor Sterling with a vote / pledge, but please reconsider.

As can be shown, he has moved way beyond naivety and blind enthusiasm, and is now in the realm of
financial and emotional desperation.

 
Due to Stuarts insulting, I choose not to post over there, but I know they frequent this site.

Hi S. and S. btw.


Pete


p.s. Legal - The information presented here should be considered HYPOTHETICAL,
to give you an idea of some of the problems and opportunities we face as a society.
Any relation to actual situations is coincidental.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #56 on: June 12, 2015, 09:22:56 PM »
Funny how people try to make other people believe they have invented a working closed looped gravity powered energy source - and those other people let themself get fooled, again and again  ;D


Some people just doesn't deal with the simplest math and the simplest physics in the world. No offence to those of you who possibly don't cope with math.


To put it simple: Closed looped mechanisms cannot run by themself. End of story.


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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #57 on: June 13, 2015, 03:06:20 AM »
Funny how people try to make other people believe they have invented a working closed looped gravity powered energy source - and those other people let themself get fooled, again and again  ;D


Some people just doesn't deal with the simplest math and the simplest physics in the world. No offence to those of you who possibly don't cope with math.


To put it simple: Closed looped mechanisms cannot run by themself. End of story.


Vidar

Vidar:

The funny thing is...when Sterling gets "fooled" he seems to make money.  This tells me he is all about the money and may know damn well a device does not work, but, if he "claims" it does, he seems to gets money. (Travel expenses to evaluate, vacation, etc.)  This is what I take from all of this.  It is my opinion based on my readings of what has been going on.  I have no actual information first hand to be able to declare any of my opinions as facts.  They are my opinions plain and simple.

Bill

PS  My disclaimers are not for you Vidar, they are there in case Sterling's legal people read this.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #58 on: June 13, 2015, 03:48:12 AM »
Vidar:

The funny thing is...when Sterling gets "fooled" he seems to make money.  This tells me he is all about the money and may know damn well a device does not work, but, if he "claims" it does, he seems to gets money. (Travel expenses to evaluate, vacation, etc.)  This is what I take from all of this.  It is my opinion based on my readings of what has been going on.  I have no actual information first hand to be able to declare any of my opinions as facts.  They are my opinions plain and simple.

Bill

PS  My disclaimers are not for you Vidar, they are there in case Sterling's legal people read this.
I think Sterling really believes.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #59 on: June 13, 2015, 03:59:02 AM »
I think Sterling really believes.

Well, he may...I don't really know.  But, if you are correct and he does really believe...then what does this say?

Bill

 

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