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Author Topic: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW  (Read 53048 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« on: May 06, 2015, 04:41:49 AM »
Well, I have now pondered big time how exactly Rosch has faked the AuKW KPP.
And I came to the following conclusion, which is very logical and it is the easiest way how to do it.

What has puzzled me was, how they manipulated the "generator" with its speed changes when they removed and applied again
one heating panel from the output, if this was all only faked with a hidden cable and now I found the solution.
Read on.


So let´s  assume that the hidden power cable probably comes through the upper hollow support beam
into the tube and then goes inside the tube directly to the top connectors of the the generator, not being
connected in any way with the generator coils or the generator at all !

There, the three-phases will go straight to the connection sockets and then through the thick black cable
directly downwards. Thus, the analog power meter  then also rotates correctly and when the whole loads are connected
also the measurement box displays correct values. But all energy comes from the grid via the hidden cabble !

Now comes the trick how to simulate the load changes:
The generator is just running almost in idle mode !

That is why the small undersized gear is able to drive the generator,
cause it has no resistance for the paternoster, it is just idling away.

The compressor as is seen is connected to the cable boxes on the floor that come from the hidden power cable from above, so
it is just pumping about 50 to 100 Liters air per minute into the floats and they just turn the generator in almost idle
mode.

Now, if somebody changes the load like Mr. Beiser pulls the plug of this one 1250 Watts heater panel,
you can hear, that the generator is running faster, cause its pitch tone gets higher.

This is cleverly done, by removing a maybe 10 Kohm load resistor on the coils of the generator.
So in idle mode the generator is just putting out 380 Volts via induction on its coils
and a 10 KOhm load resistor is always braking it a bit. (That is why I wrote Almost idle !)
So  this 10 KOhm load resistor dissipates about 14 Watts. The buoyancy paternoster is also braked via this load a bit,
but the gear still can handle this and the RPM in this slightly braked idle mode is around 750 RPM at the generator.

Now, when Beiser pulls the plug out of the heating panel from the connector box, there is sent up a signal by radio
from the antenna box via RF radio signal, that a receiver inside the modified generator receives and
releases this 10 KOhm resistor from the output coils of the generator and thus the load on the paternoster is 14 Watts
less and thus the Generator and paternoster will run faster. Then it is really in total idle mode, so it runs faster !


The control signal to start this load change on the generator coils gets the antenna box on one of the 3 wire lines (red, blue, black),

which  come from the right battery cabinet box. You can see these 3 wire lines on several photos.

These 3 colored cables are probably red=12V or 5 Volts supply, black = ground and blue = control signal serial data line or I2C bus or

something like this.

So  the CPU control board in the antenna box is then controlled  to release this 10 KOhm brake load which is
transmitted via RF radio signal up to the generator with has this hidden 10 KOhm load on its coils.

This way the speed of the generator is changed !

In the rightmost panel box with the 4 x 7 Ah lead acid batteries there sits a current sensor inside, which measures,
when a load change is made and then also  changes the frequency display, so that they
have there some sort of Voltage Controlled Oscillator which controls the frequency display, so they just modify the
control voltage a bit and thus the frequency will change into the right direction.

The load change value will then be sent via the blue cable data line to the left antenna box with the control circuit board and
it will then switch on or off the load resistor on the generator coils.

Since we have seen from the logo graphics from inside the rightmost control box that  the Serbian company  Mikroelectronika has built
all these boxes, we now know, that this is a company that has much experience in  Microcontrollers knowledge and could program it like this.

This is also the most logically way the cables are connected there and this way it could
easily work.
Also this would be the easiest way to fake it...

If it is not done by radio control, it could also be made via
the red cable which goes up to the generator platform from the left antenna box.
This red cable was claimed by Beiser to be a valve control line for the compressor, but I can not imagine that they really regulate the

compressor because the compressor was seen on Gaia's video and it had only a manometer on it and then the hose went straight down into the

tube , so there was no visible control valve..so maybe the red line is just used to control the maybe 10 KOhm brake load resistor..

I have now traced all the cables where they are connected to and how the control panel boxes are interconnected and I guess
it really can only be this way, if one uses a hidden cable to bring the power in.


Clever done Rosch ! But not smart enough to not being detected.

Gruss, Stefan.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2015, 04:45:57 AM »
Stefan:

Your explanation fits perfectly.  We all know this could not work as they have said so, you figuring this out is a really good thing.

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2015, 04:46:31 AM »
Please compare my findings again with this visiter video from J.D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03aVI1_OMsA

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 04:47:59 AM »
Yes, thanks Bill, it is the only plausible explanation with all the
connections and observations from all the last days since they have shown it.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 05:00:48 AM »
Signaling can also be carried over power line communications.  These are used extensively in solar power inverters from companies like enPhase.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 06:07:15 AM »
The host-presenter of the auKW on J.D.s  video seems to be somewhat stoned with psychopharmaka. His movements seem to be lame and hesitating indicating he uses heavy Dosis of medicaments against states of  overwhelming fear....
That is not a promising indicator for the credibility of the auKW....

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 08:51:37 AM »
If they have done the fake still more right, then they would have a 3 phase frequency changer unit in the next room which
will be controlled wirelessly via the antenna there... This unit could then produce the right frequencies before the hidden cable goes up there,
so that you can see the same frequency on external frequency meters or scopes, at the measurement day today...

@NochWas,
Mr. Beiser is said to have some kind of Nerve-Illness. That is why he is a bit slow in speaking and answering.
I don´t know, if this is true, but that is a rumour.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2015, 08:54:02 AM »
PoiPoi has found the right compresssor pump !
https://www.allmystery.de/themen/gw113123-1131#id14248581

Here is a page from the manufacturer.
It must be the model Airpump 150.
This one still works at a deepth of 5.5 Meters.
Too bad, I have not yet found a chart, which displays at which pressure
it will deliver how many liters of air...

http://evolutionaqua.com/acatalog/Airtech_Fittings.html

Here is a PDF File from the Service Manual !
http://www.evolutionaqua.com/acatalog/AirPump%20Manual.pdf

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2015, 09:18:33 AM »
If they really just use a variable frequency drive (frequency inverter-converter) in the next room controlled remotely via the antenna
then the speed change noise could also just come from the membrane pump , when they change the frequency in this variable frequency drive
and then the generator maybe is not at all
connected electrically and really runs only fully in idle mode.
so the small gear is always able to drive just the shaft of the generator as it does not have any counter torque, but just runs completely idle.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2015, 10:08:30 AM »
In this new video I explain, how they could have done it to fake the whole setup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj9VuE-vNnw


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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 12:09:14 PM »
In this new video I explain, how they could have done it to fake the whole setup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj9VuE-vNnw
Is that really an antenna on top of the left hand control box?  It sure looks like one in the video feed.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2015, 12:23:14 PM »
@MarkE,
yes, it is an antenna.

Well, I just recorded another 2 Videos from the measurement day.
A few visitors were there but nobody yet was taken measurements yet...
All were only talking and only taking pictures with their mobile phones...

Only one guy I saw did hold his ear to the tube, that was all
what could be seen so far.. pretty sad..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOv1FRnUhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lMjIV3lYis


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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2015, 12:36:08 PM »
The measurement boxes look like they are powered off.  I guess the man was trying to listen for screams from the trapped aqua-gerbils in the tube.

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2015, 03:25:50 PM »
3 new Videos from the measurement day, but the guys attending there seem not to be too much interested to measure there a lot....
I have only seen one Multimeter so far and an ampere clamp meter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rmZdOrQ_HY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4cEYqQx3kY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0zfZGIyL4g

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Re: How Rosch probably faked their 5 KWatt KPP AuKW
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 03:38:54 PM »
Here are 5 new videos from user daBenedikt
https://www.allmystery.de/mitglieder/daBenedikt
He was so nice to donate these videos for my German language Youtube channel ( as these videos are all in German language,
Beiser is speaking German)
These are from his visit at the 4th of May  at Spich at the Rosch facilities.
He does not have a Youtube channel so he let me upload them to my channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mQwCW-BP8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K8hxPu46gA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQdzJqwEvp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3McdyESpYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geeB_3M4m0k

Many thanks to Benedikt again.

Regards, Stefan.

 

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