If I'm not mistaken this is all purely hypothetical.
People love themselves a good mystery, as I can assure you that your thread wouldn't have grown this fast would you have posted the concept 6 pages ago.

Over the years I got tired of explaining why open source is the only way going forward with any kind of this technology. However as history tends to repeat, I would argue that you have made a flaw in your reasoning and a prototype would not move as you thought.
Most of us had/have all kind of "working" machines in our head at one point but the year is 2014 an besides the occasional "I have a runner but I cannot share it now" we are still using good old nuclear power and gasoline to move forward and r*ping the planet.

To me personally I get a thrill when I can share my ideas and designs openly, yes I have a job and know the importance of an income in this money ruled world, but when it comes to this you must become the change you want to see in the world. Hopefully a world of abundance and free of concepts like money (hey I can dream can't I).

TK .. I think its pretty clear that gurangax has an idea that he thinks will work - he's done some calcs that he believes support this notion.

It's also pretty clear that the maid had coaching from Wagner, Gartner & Borlach.

I have calculated the torque generation and sure enough the result is a runner. I dont think that Bessler even do the math.


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gurangax .. Bessler did use the term "excess weight" - in other passages he described it as "imbalance" & at other times various other descriptives were used such as "preponderance" IINM, but he never said "overbalance, out of balance, or called it a "gravity wheel or gravity engine".

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this is no theory at all. it works, how do i know? I'm looking at it right now. ANyway I will only show the final proof when i think its ok to do so.
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Unless I misinterpret what gangurax is saying here, this is a definitive statement & ups the ante.

I would like to show how erroneous this law is. But that will be for another day.


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Well, to do that you would have to show that your calculations are not in error, that your assumptions are correct.... and that your device, built according to your calculations, actually does work in an overunity manner!

So please, feel free to demonstrate.  Today.  Because "Another day" -- also known as "soon" -- never comes, you know.

Just share it and be done with it. If it's as simple as you say it is then it won't take long to replicate, you win the current OU prize and can enjoy yourself until the value of that sum lasts.

However if monetary gain is part of your focus then this is not the right place to be, and you'd probably be better off with the people that currently sent you pm's in order to "help" you out.

Well, to do that you would have to show that your calculations are not in error, that your assumptions are correct.... and that your device, built according to your calculations, actually does work in an overunity manner!

So please, feel free to demonstrate.  Today.  Because "Another day" -- also known as "soon" -- never comes, you know.

 to prove it now will need me to make some drawings of the 2 stage lever. if i do that the secret will already be given out. please wait for awhile more everything will be clear soon enough


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Ok, you want to play, fine. I'll play.

How about making a little wager?

I'll bet you that you will not show any working device. Ever, but let's put a time limit on the bet, say, one month plus a few days. Call it June 1. If you haven't shown a real working Bessler-variant wheel by June 1, I win the bet.

Let's say, if I win, you make a one hundred dollar donation to your local no-kill animal shelter or neuter-spay program. If, on the other hand, you win.... then we all win, because you will have Saved the World from the Tyranny of Big Oil. And I'll make a hundred dollar donation (of my now worthless money)  to you or the charity of your choice.

 


(Drawings and theoretical calculations DO NOT COUNT without a functioning prototype. You are claiming to have something that works... and I say you do not. So show your working device, not a drawing of it!)

Wager or not, I still will disclose it before your said time limit. Anyway I accept this wager.


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why does a windmill works? I guess it because of the larger particles that can be felt hitting the blade and causes movement. this concept is just the same with a water turbine.


gravity is everywhere and cannot be felt because we are already accustomed to our own weights. what it does is simply attract all masses to the source of gravity. it is something that I can not explain very well.


The closest thing to a gravity is a magnetic field. If there is a very large magnetic field the device will surely work by the same principle of attraction.


I wonder about pressure, for example at the very bottom of the sea where pressure are the same all over a body.


Well this is just something that come to my mind anyway.


regards.