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Author Topic: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.  (Read 362324 times)

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #135 on: April 26, 2014, 08:31:07 PM »
Do you have a running model right now?

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #136 on: April 26, 2014, 09:07:40 PM »
i will disclose it just be patient anyway its not even 1 week since I started this. I simply like getting mixed responses from people, that way I know more about them.

People are impatient because it's 5 minutes past 12 in the decline of society. The collapse has begun. No one bears it anymore: working for the slavery. Working for the money system. Working for the downfall. Many people would love to escape from this and want to be "left the fuck alone".

Overunity would be an attempt to escape it, e.g. by providing unlimited energy so you can store food without depending on the grid or creating vehicles without oil barons. It doesn't make larger companies or power stations obsolete, but it can provide more individual freedom. By restoring a piece of freedom like this much more can grow out of it. Even new societies. It could be world changing.

[speculation mode] Also the frequencies have risen on earth and continue to rise. That's why people get impatient much more quickly. They don't like playing mystery games anymore. Truth or lies will be recognized much earlier than before as well. [speculation mode off]

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #137 on: April 26, 2014, 09:55:05 PM »
Also the frequencies have risen on earth and continue to rise.

Which frequencies would that be?

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #138 on: April 26, 2014, 10:27:29 PM »
6 years ago you made the exact same claim, used the exact same riddles and ended up showing exactly nothing. Your response time seems to also indicate that you love the attention this brings to you. Humans truly are silly beings.

Thanks for the heads-up Broli.

Read Charles's from Malaysia's previous posts from 2008.


gauschor

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #139 on: April 26, 2014, 11:07:10 PM »
Which frequencies would that be?

I don't know for certain anymore. I watched a speech from Wolfgang Wiedergut about "Avatar Rays" and it was something about our planetary system approaching or aligning a certain position or stage in the galaxy. While this takes place the minds and souls of every being grows. This is also why people feel time passes faster and faster. After reached the zenit, everything will retract again. But I can't reproduce the exact words anymore, so I probably mix something up here... should have listened more carefully...

6 years ago you made the exact same claim, used the exact same riddles and ended up showing exactly nothing.

Yeah, I also investigated the post history. Kinda disappointing :(

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #140 on: April 26, 2014, 11:44:39 PM »



    I thought it would be sort of fun if Fletcher,Koala or MarkE or someone similar could
    tell us how big of a wheel we would need to run our properties.
     I think 20kw would be about right, I have a 10kva genset and it can't cope with
     my needs, electric shower alone being 9 kw.
     Say your wheel could capture 5% of gravitational energy and remember the speed
     of a wheel is severely limited if it is to feel the force.
      I can't imagine a basement installation!
                      John.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #141 on: April 26, 2014, 11:45:13 PM »
gurangax said earlier ...
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It resets itself every 6.00 oclock but this can be changed according to application.
By this do you mean at the 6 o'clock position every half or full turn of the wheel?
 

mscoffman

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #142 on: April 27, 2014, 02:21:35 AM »


    I thought it would be sort of fun if Fletcher,Koala or MarkE or someone similar could
    tell us how big of a wheel we would need to run our properties.
     I think 20kw would be about right, I have a 10kva genset and it can't cope with
     my needs, electric shower alone being 9 kw.
     Say your wheel could capture 5% of gravitational energy and remember the speed
     of a wheel is severely limited if it is to feel the force.
      I can't imagine a basement installation!
                      John.

This depends on the torque that the wheel produces which is unknown and a matter of design. If
you can continuously average and buffer the electricity your wheel produces in a solar type 30KWh
battery bank system with a factory prebuilt front end you only need 2HP horsepower continuously.
This might be about 2 wheels or a double thick wheel as an estimate. Your current 10HP generator
could easily supply this now while running only 1/6 of the time if you had the solar buffer bank
system.

Heating, automobile, and unusual base loads would all have to be handled separately.


:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #143 on: April 27, 2014, 02:42:00 AM »
@gurangax

With your understanding of the Bessler Wheel, I have a question, and I hope you can respond.

Bessler's first two wheels were self starters.  If you were to hold on to the outside of the wheel or axle and allow it to turn very slowly, would the internally generated force at that slow speed be the same as the force generated when running at full speed?


Bessler have several variations. It can do everything a Bessler wheel can do it matches every clues so i have no doubts that it has to be the mechanism he used, thus I am saying the mystery is solved.


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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #144 on: April 27, 2014, 02:49:07 AM »
Thanks for the heads-up Broli.

Read Charles's from Malaysia's previous posts from 2008.


ABHammer have posted earlier to look for my older post and no one took notice of his word. Its true that I have been here a long time ago and made the same claim, but it would not be wise to think that I was the same as 6 years ago. I mean "nothing is learnt"? If you see my older post I made some research after the failure and was trying to tell the foundings yet no one seems to take it seriously, thus it was left alone and waiting to be woken up again this year.


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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #145 on: April 27, 2014, 02:50:56 AM »
gurangax said earlier ...By this do you mean at the 6 o'clock position every half or full turn of the wheel?


Every 6.00 oclock meaning whenever it reaches there.


regards

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #146 on: April 27, 2014, 02:58:07 AM »


    I thought it would be sort of fun if Fletcher,Koala or MarkE or someone similar could
    tell us how big of a wheel we would need to run our properties.
     I think 20kw would be about right, I have a 10kva genset and it can't cope with
     my needs, electric shower alone being 9 kw.
     Say your wheel could capture 5% of gravitational energy and remember the speed
     of a wheel is severely limited if it is to feel the force.
      I can't imagine a basement installation!
                      John.
If for example one wished to run their home for a day at 1kW average consumption then that is 86.4MJ required for a 24 hour period.  Given that gravity is a conservative field, that means the wheel will rotate once from a maximum GPE position to a mininmum GPE position.  86.4MJ is 8.81 million kg*meters.  If you wanted to do this with a mass of water, and had a 10m diameter wheel ( a lovely addition to any front or back yard ), then the store mass at the top would need to be 880,000 kg, IE 880 metric tons.  In water, that would be a bit more than 880 cubic meters on top of that 10m diameter wheel.  Then for the next day, all you need to do is restore that wheel to its maximum GPE position again.  That is of course only a small problem for proponents of myths.

gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #147 on: April 27, 2014, 03:06:55 AM »
I mean really? cant someone come up with a conclusion of how it may work I have already given the clues needed..


lets say we have a 2 meter crossbar with 2 kg of weight on both ends (so its 4kg) then we will get a maximum of at least 2.946 of torque.
well this is dependant on the design parameters of course.


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edit: I meant 2.946 Nm of torque

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #148 on: April 27, 2014, 03:13:06 AM »
I mean really? cant someone come up with a conclusion of how it may work I have already given the clues needed..


lets say we have a 2 meter crossbar with 2 kg of weight on both ends (so its 4kg) then we will get a maximum of at least 2.946 of torque.
well this is dependant on the design parameters of course.


regards
It doesn't work.  Gravity is conservative. 

But I tell you what as long as you want to continue with your claims:  I'll happily contract electricity from you for $0.10 / kWh.  You just install your equipment on my premises in a sealed and locked cabinet, and I'll buy the electricity.  Tell me what continuous power capacity that you can deliver, the form:  AC or DC and at what voltage, current, and phase configuration (if AC), and when you can install.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #149 on: April 27, 2014, 03:21:51 AM »
@gurangax

Please start a new thread when you're ready to share your secret.  I'm not going to waste my time coming back here.

Thanks.