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Author Topic: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.  (Read 261614 times)

Offline gurangax

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The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« on: April 24, 2014, 08:40:13 PM »
For the first time in written history, The Bessler wheel mysteries have finally been solved. I feel the urge to share it with you guys in this forum. But somehow I feel stupid if I do it without asking some questions first.


Firstly, how do you open source it? I'm afraid that someone will steal it and patent it for himself.
Secondly, what will this benefit me? What will I get by doing this, will this harm anyone?


I know why everyone keeps failing to replicate a Bessler Wheel, its because they keep on repeating his mistakes. there is none of his published drawings that works! You are looking it the wrong way. The clues are there but lets keep that for another time.


The reason why I am saying that the mystery is solved is because of a very simple mechanism which he wanted to protect so much. You wont believe how simple it is, thus I understand why he destroyed and hidden all the evidences. With this lost knowledge (not anymore), every written history about the wheel fits in the puzzle. All questions regarding the clues that were gained in the past can now be fully understood. And finally Johann Bessler will be accepted as a genuine Perpetual Motion inventor.[/font][/size]

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2014, 09:50:14 PM »
can you at least tell us if this is still purely mechanical solution or involve another forces ? I'm aware of patents combining gravity with magnetism and a special levers to make it running forever....they ae toys, because to get any descent output the wheel has to be very big, but maybe I'm wrong

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2014, 09:57:58 PM »
it is pure gravitic attraction in every sense.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2014, 09:59:47 PM »
to put it in Bessler's words would be like


"Unlike all other automata, such as clocks or springs, or other hanging weights which require winding up, or whose duration depends on the chain which attaches them, these weights, on the contrary, are the essential parts, and constitute the perpetual motion itself; since from them is received the universal movement which they must exercise so long as they remain out of the centre of gravity; and when they come to be placed together, and so arranged one against another that they can never obtain equilibrium, or the punctum quietus which they unceasingly seek in their wonderfully speedy flight, one or other of them must apply its weight at right angles to the axis, which in its turn must also move."[/size]- Johann E. E. Bessler, 1717

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2014, 10:01:41 PM »
can you at least tell us if this is still purely mechanical solution or involve another forces ? I'm aware of patents combining gravity with magnetism and a special levers to make it running forever....they ae toys, because to get any descent output the wheel has to be very big, but maybe I'm wrong


I can assure you that a 10Kw generation can be easily achieved.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2014, 10:07:33 PM »
even a system without weights are possible runners. Weights are used to change the power generated.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2014, 10:32:26 PM »

On the BesslerWheel forum ****** who was sure he has a working model wrote:


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"I am thinking about posting the whole thing on General Discussions."
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I posted the following reply:


I think that is the most intelligent "thinking" that anyone has ever had on this forum.


And anyone else who believes they have a runner would be well advised to do the same and beat ****** to it.


Because once a runner has been posted the principle behind it (the conservation of 3rd derivative energy) will be so obvious that any one else posting will be accused of copying that principle from ******.


Patenting is so "last year". Surely the likes of Google, Facebook Twitter, etc. shows people where things are at.


My granddaughter is paid more for her YouTube make up videos than her systems analyst father is paid for professional employment.


If ******'s device really does run then he will be rich beyond the dreams of avarice.


Quite apart from anything else he has a moral duty to not delay such a discovery a day more than necessary since it will revolutionize the energy supply of the world and put an end to global warning and African children dying from lack of clean pumped water.


Why don't the members of this forum ever seem to recognise these moral responsibilities?


Why are they so wrapped up with their own little vested interests?








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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2014, 10:34:03 PM »

For the first time in written history, The Bessler wheel mysteries have finally been solved. I feel the urge to share it with you guys in this forum. But somehow I feel stupid if I do it without asking some questions first.



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Firstly, how do you open source it? I'm afraid that someone will steal it and patent it for himself.

Hi, you publish here your hypothesis & theory in as complete detail as you can muster - then you enter into discussions here about the mechanism & how you envisage it working to be 'fit for task' - you publish all drawings, simulations, video's etc in your possession showing the detail - remember to date each drawing etc & write your full name on it to claim provenance.

Many would try to 'method' patent such an idea - if it is that simple then work-around improvements are easily done, making patenting obsolete - mostly they forget that a simple device would be on Taiwanese shelves within weeks & any downstream derivatives the weeks after - the genie is out of the bottle.


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Secondly, what will this benefit me? What will I get by doing this, ...

IF it works [or has clear & unambiguous potential to work], you will get much kudos & notoriety [the good kind if it works out] - you will make history & leave a legacy to your descendants & the human population at large - one of 'the man who broke the mold' & of altruism second to none.

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snip ... will this harm anyone?

Always remember "The Law of Unintended Consequences" - unless you have a brain the size of a planet you won't be able to think thru every consequence, effect or cause, & all the downstream permutations for generations.

There are always 'perverse effects' that can't be rationally or logically anticipated in any action - the thought to seriously consider is that INACTION has severe perverse effects too.

Best of luck !

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2014, 11:27:19 PM »
Good post, Fletch.   

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2014, 12:07:52 AM »
thanks for input. I dont know how I will be doing this. Writing the whole thing down will take a long time. It's probably good if I just post it slowly, 1 at a moment.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2014, 12:12:22 AM »
gurangax

Nice to here of another person who has solved another variation.  I am wondering when you are going to show a video of at least a covered wheel. It would be great if all of us who have a running machine to show them all at the same time for the maximum shock effect.  2014 when gravity shook the world in a whole new way.  ;)   


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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2014, 12:22:13 AM »
gurangax

Nice to here of another person who has solved another variation.  I am wondering when you are going to show a video of at least a covered wheel. It would be great if all of us who have a running machine to show them all at the same time for the maximum shock effect.  2014 when gravity shook the world in a whole new way.  ;)   


Alan


hi Alan, 2014 seems nice for a change. But I dont think a covered wheel is a good for proving it, because people will say that a motor runs it somehow. Anyway the wheel can do what ever the Bessler's Wheel can do including turn on both sides. Im thinking its not really my invention but credit should go to the real inventor J B.


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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2014, 12:33:43 AM »
Yes, but it is easy to advocate 'altruism' and 'morality' in such an instance until one has truly faced the consequences of sharing 'dangerous truths'.  I mean, which came first the chicken or the egg?  And which comes next, the revolution, or the Revolution?

The world stands at the same old precipice from which it has collectively jumped time and again throughout history.  The very big difference this time around, is technology.  "Just share it"....."let it free and be recognized".....such well meaning, but naive advocations ring a bit hollow in the ears of those who've shared much more meaningful Truths than yet another technological 'savior' of mankind.

What many desperately seek, is hard, tangible, simple, understandable, STABLE, energy devices to do work for you.  Yet the world is in the condition it's in precisely because man has continually proven, despite the false promises his faith in technology and himself have made, that he will not WORK HARD ENOUGH HIMSELF.

And it is exactly his lack of will power to consistently follow righteous precepts that continually reveals him unworthy of such a Gift as "free energy".  Look at the dismal legacy of atomic energy.  Much of the Pacific ocean is at this moment, dead or dying, and the 'fallout' of Fukashima is just warming up.  You think that the unholy grail of atomic energy, which was once universally touted as the energetic savior of mankind, has COST US? 

Just WAIT until your energy is "FREE".

Whether you are looking in the mirror, on the net, or at your boob tubes....you search in vain for the 'savior' you seek.  Freedom....True Freedom, is never free. 

Earth is at another tipping point,  and this one is bigger than any other before it.  The vast chasm between the haves and have nots is rapidly climbing higher than at any other time in history.  Something has got to give....

And let's face it, free energy has been done to death.  And quite literally for those whose lives were taken by those who felt their foundations shaken.  Surely, some of you can see that whatever the conglomerate 'beast' that runs this planet cannot co-opt and exploit, it destroys.

Well, it's time is nearing their end.  And it will be destroyed.  And not by human hands.

You have your Creator's Word on that.

I assure you, it will not take anything remotely so grand as a revelation of "free energy" to topple that rotten apple cart in which the many have gradually become accustomed to riding.

There's a small window of time remaining for many to bounce on out before it hits a Stone Wall.  A Wall upon which a Final Sentence is written.

http://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/2hands/2hands1.htm


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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2014, 12:55:50 AM »

hi Alan, 2014 seems nice for a change. But I dont think a covered wheel is a good for proving it, because people will say that a motor runs it somehow. Anyway the wheel can do what ever the Bessler's Wheel can do including turn on both sides. Im thinking its not really my invention but credit should go to the real inventor J B.


regards

gurangax

Bessler has top ratings in my book as the original builder. But today's builders will be the first to expose the many possible ways and that won't just be Bessler's.

Alan

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2014, 01:36:41 AM »
Ok I will start by saying the nature of the lost knowledge. It is as simple as a lever. To be more precise it is a 2 stage leverage system. You wont see it until I have told you how it is assembled. Well its just that simple, now its only a matter of placing the lever at the proper places.


Our minds are usually tuned to think of only what we can see in front of us. The very reason why so many failed to duplicate Besller's achievement. It's really that simple that even Besller was scared that the community will not agree to his asking price of 100,000 to reveal the secret.  There was not much of artistry in it.


since it is that simple, my next explanation should be enough to cover the hows and whys it works. Actually theres nothing much to post about it after. Because everything will get clear as we move on. So I will let you guys think for awhile for now.


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