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Author Topic: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.  (Read 223615 times)

Offline overtaker

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2014, 01:58:48 AM »
Guran.....  can you say if you use one size weights or more than one size?

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2014, 02:11:10 AM »
Guran.....  can you say if you use one size weights or more than one size?


you can run it even without weights.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 02:12:21 AM »
a testimony from the one who have seen the mechanism is this



Interior of the machine was a simple arrangement of weights and levers. - Prince Karl, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel, eyewitness account




so there you have it

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2014, 02:12:21 AM »
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Offline gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2014, 02:48:11 AM »
Guran.....  can you say if you use one size weights or more than one size?


to answer it the Bessler way is this


"A great craftsman would be that man who can 'lightly' cause a heavy weight to fly upwards! Who can make a pound-weight rise as 4 ounces fall, or 4 pounds rise as 16 ounces fall. If he can sort that out, the motion will perpetuate itself. But if he can't, then his hard work shall be all in vain." -[/size]

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2014, 03:00:05 AM »
Regarding MT138 he said


"Children's game in which there is something extraordinary for anyone who knows how to apply the game in a different way."[/size]- Johann Bessler[/size][/size]Do you see it?

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2014, 03:18:12 AM »

"A great craftsman would be that man who can 'lightly' cause a heavy weight to fly upwards! Who can make a pound-weight rise as 4 ounces fall, or 4 pounds rise as 16 ounces fall. If he can sort that out, the motion will perpetuate itself. But if he can't, then his hard work shall be all in vain."
 

 
How about this one?
 
 
http://www.overunity.com/13959/impulse-perpetual-machine/msg375653/#msg375653
 
 

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2014, 03:28:41 AM »
So,   is that a yes or no?  :)

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Offline gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2014, 03:36:30 AM »

 
How about this one?
 
 
http://www.overunity.com/13959/impulse-perpetual-machine/msg375653/#msg375653


i dont think impluses are involved here. the falling weight that were heard simply falls but it wasnt the impact that drives it. There was some wheels which doesnt have the hitting sound. And one that have soft weight landing. It is easily explained with this lever system.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2014, 03:37:46 AM »
So,   is that a yes or no?  :)


size doesnt matters, what really matters is the heaviness of the weight.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2014, 03:41:37 AM »
So your design will work using all 20 lb. Weights?

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2014, 03:46:02 AM »
So your design will work using all 20 lb. Weights?


if it were all 20lb weights then surely it will not work. some weights need to be 3/4 lighter or so depending on the design. but in the end just as Bessler said an ounce here or there makes no difference.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 03:50:31 AM »
you can see the physics involved using just one crossbar or the basic element. as stated by JB


 “If I arrange to have just one cross-bar in my machine, it revolves very slowly[/font][/size], just as if it can hardly turn itself at all, but, on the contrary, when I arrange several bars, pulleys and weights, the machine can revolve much faster." [/font][/size]

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2014, 04:01:24 AM »
The use of springs is not necessary, but it can be used to dampen the impact from falling weight.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2014, 04:14:11 AM »
Regarding this speculation


Weights may have been pierced in the middle and attached by connecting springs (observer speculation).[/li]
[li]- Acta Eridutorum, An Account of the Perpetuum Mobile of J. E. E. Orffyreus, 1715[/size]
[/size]The only reason for using a pierced weights is for weight offsetting to balance the wheel, for  the initial tune up.

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2014, 04:32:23 AM »
going into it more..


The basic element consists of a sliding crossbar with leverage configuration such that it will make a 2 stage leverage system.

 

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