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Author Topic: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.  (Read 364513 times)

gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #105 on: April 26, 2014, 03:26:39 PM »
something come up to my mind what if we drive a helicopter using a gravity engine. that will be really something.
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #106 on: April 26, 2014, 03:30:49 PM »
Quote from: Paul-R on April 26, 2014, 03:24:06 PM
they work like an aircraft's wing. suction due to Bernouille's Theorem.


in other words there is only 1 flow of force being felt thus cause the movement. It is just the same with gravity attraction which is a 1 sided force, surely a gravity driven engine/wheel is real.
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #107 on: April 26, 2014, 03:36:12 PM »
I have an idea which will work on pressure and it is not a turbine. It is based on the 2 stage lever i was talking about earlier. The more I think about it I found that it will work with any force which is 1 sided.


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mscoffman

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #108 on: April 26, 2014, 03:44:09 PM »
It seems as if perpetual motion would be possible if a machine and its components
are in constant dynamic motion flux and its state is evolving in just the right way.
Take for example a spacecraft and a planet, where the planet attracts the spaceraft
but before the time the spacecraft gets to the planet the planet has changed
it's position, the two positions evolving systematically. Wouldn't in this simplfied
point of view have the spacecraft be in perpetual motion about the planet?


:S:MarkSCoffman
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #109 on: April 26, 2014, 03:51:00 PM »
Now I will say this.


It is not the weight that causes the machine to work. It is the levers! Without them your device simply doesnt work. Levers this is the secret of a perpetual machine.


regards
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PiCéd

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #110 on: April 26, 2014, 04:06:48 PM »
With levers you gain weight but you lose v.
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #111 on: April 26, 2014, 04:07:48 PM »
Quote from: gurangax on April 26, 2014, 03:51:00 PM
Now I will say this.


It is not the weight that causes the machine to work. It is the levers! Without them your device simply doesnt work. Levers this is the secret of a perpetual machine.


regards


Bessler wheel is not really a perpetual motion wheel, it simply extract the energy from gravity to do work, so I can assure you there will be energy surplus. It gets the energy from gravity attraction the same way you get energy from a windmill! Simply said a perpetual motion machine doesn't exist!


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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #112 on: April 26, 2014, 04:08:28 PM »
Quote from: PiCéd on April 26, 2014, 04:06:48 PM
With levers you gain weight but you lose v.


Read everything I have told here
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mscoffman

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #113 on: April 26, 2014, 04:14:53 PM »

Quote from: gurangax on April 26, 2014, 03:36:12 PM
I have an idea which will work on pressure and it is not a turbine. It is based on the 2 stage lever i was talking about earlier. The more I think about it I found that it will work with any force which is 1 sided.


regards

gurangax,

I think that you and Mr. Rossi should be careful not to threaten to eat your customer's lunch for him. To focus on the simplest application
of a principle or you will come to not ever focus on any of them. The way patents are written should advise you of this.
I suspect that it's not MIBS that screw up inventors...it's the inventors behavior...themselves. Don't let valuable primary
ideas be held hostage to the vagaries of application secondary less valuable ones. Of course to do so would only be human,
but that's not something that we need right now.

:S:MarkSCoffman

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PiCéd

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #114 on: April 26, 2014, 04:20:43 PM »
Without a simple schema there reason to be skeptical.
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #115 on: April 26, 2014, 04:22:31 PM »
Quote from: mscoffman on April 26, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
gurangax,

I think that you and Mr. Rossi should be careful not to threaten to eat your customer's lunch for him. To focus on the simplest application
of a principle or you will come to not ever focus on any of them. The way patents are written should advise you of this.
I suspect that it's not MIBS that screw up inventors...it's the inventors behavior...themselves. Don't let valuable primary
ideas be held hostage to the vagaries of application secondary less valuable ones. Of course to do so would only be human,
but that's not something that we need right now.

:S:MarkSCoffman


The device is so simple that I have to fill my "free time" with other thoughts, I simply tell what my thoughts was. I can assure you that the primary goal is still the same. I can even tell in one word how simple it is, but then what is left for me to say afterwards?


-regards
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #116 on: April 26, 2014, 04:23:37 PM »
Quote from: PiCéd on April 26, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
Without a simple schema there reason to be skeptical.


of course, if I were you I will feel the same too.
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #117 on: April 26, 2014, 04:28:21 PM »
Quote from: gurangax on April 26, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
Why do they fail? Its because they are looking it only on paper which is 2 dimensional. Everyone keeps repeating this error. Now open your mind and do it in 3 dimension. I have told you earlier the key lies on the z axis.


regards


To quote mr Bessler


"He who wishes to make it in this world must often be prepared to use a combination of lateral thinking and initiative!"


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Grimer

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #118 on: April 26, 2014, 04:30:56 PM »
Quote from: gurangax on April 26, 2014, 02:53:52 PM

Wager or not, I still will disclose it before your said time limit. Anyway I accept this wager.

regards


You will disclose it before June 1st 2014, eh! I look forward to that.


Incidentally, I believe what you claim is possible. Indeed, I believe that RAR have already achieved it - and if you are correct then you will beat them to the punch and deserve all the plaudits that will be coming to you.


Like Broli, I too believe open source is the way to go.
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gurangax

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Re: The Bessler Wheel, mystery solved.
« Reply #119 on: April 26, 2014, 04:30:59 PM »
There are deliberate reasons why the wheel have its thickness.


-regards
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