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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1745734 times)

bringdownthezog

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1425 on: April 10, 2015, 06:52:36 PM »
JR member-your an idiot.
You have no idea as to what myself and others have been doing with this circuit.
The captor is rubbish-it's a nothing transformer. When you build one and show me the wonders hidden within,then maybe i will start to take note of your dribble. Until then cupcake,put up or shut up.

Tinwizard, For all the noise you make you haven't realized Clarence has already shown a working build of the captor simple and straighforward. It's your colossal ignorance that is preventing you from anything of substance. Keep tinkering with your tinker toys and let others like Clarence work on real meaningful projects.

You look like you've lost grip on reality with your transformer crackpottery and misdirections about the captor.

Don't get so upset when others ask you for data slowpoke.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1426 on: April 10, 2015, 07:13:34 PM »
Tinwizard, For all the noise you make you haven't realized Clarence has already shown a working build of the captor simple and straighforward. It's your colossal ignorance that is preventing you from anything of substance. Keep tinkering with your tinker toys and let others like Clarence work on real meaningful projects.

You look like you've lost grip on reality with your transformer crackpottery and misdirections about the captor.

Don't get so upset when others ask you for data slowpoke.



Just for the record: Clarence may or may not have something meaningful, but he never showed it.
I strongly suggest that you learn some elementary electronics, as you don't have a good grip on the subject.
EVERYTHING you see and use in this world was designed and manufactured by people who understand what they are doing; not ONE product exists that uses longitudinal waves, quantum fields, Bedini/Lindemann principles or other esoteric ideas.

bringdownthezog

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1427 on: April 10, 2015, 07:28:54 PM »
Just for the record: Clarence may or may not have something meaningful, but he never showed it.
I strongly suggest that you learn some elementary electronics, as you don't have a good grip on the subject.
EVERYTHING you see and use in this world was designed and manufactured by people who understand what they are doing; not ONE product exists that uses longitudinal waves, quantum fields, Bedini/Lindemann principles or other esoteric ideas.

I'm assuming you know elementary electronics. If you can, name me electronics reference that predicts the values of this setup. I don't have to tell you it's a simple device.




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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1428 on: April 10, 2015, 07:33:08 PM »
void, you are using the terms 'energy' and 'power' as though they are the same: they are not.

Hi memoryman. I fully understand the difference between energy and power.
Although my wording may not have been the best, I think what I said was clear enough. :)
All the best...


MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1429 on: April 10, 2015, 07:37:39 PM »
I'm assuming you know elementary electronics. If you can, name me electronics reference that predicts the values of this setup. I don't have to tell you it's a simple device.

Please explain how Clarence's 'simple' device works in your own words.  I am not asking for one or two sentences.  If you claim that it's all so obvious and so simple, then please give us a detailed four or five paragraph explanation for how it allegedly actually works.  No links or big quotes please, just explain how it works in your own words.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1430 on: April 10, 2015, 08:13:16 PM »
Zog Beater
yes please do, I will go after you...

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1431 on: April 11, 2015, 03:50:18 AM »
Tinwizard, For all the noise you make you haven't realized Clarence has already shown a working build of the captor simple and straighforward. It's your colossal ignorance that is preventing you from anything of substance. Keep tinkering with your tinker toys and let others like Clarence work on real meaningful projects.

You look like you've lost grip on reality with your transformer crackpottery and misdirections about the captor.

Don't get so upset when others ask you for data slowpoke.
Junior
Clarence showed nothing at all,and you will once again not be able to deliver on your crackpot jargon. You talk palava,and nothing more,so it may be time to go change your diaper ;D
Show everyone here your offering's--oh that's right,you have nothing other than the power bill still coming monthly.
Are you trying to make up for some shortcomings else where with this dribble you keep posting?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1432 on: April 11, 2015, 04:05:58 AM »
Please explain how Clarence's 'simple' device works in your own words.  I am not asking for one or two sentences.  If you claim that it's all so obvious and so simple, then please give us a detailed four or five paragraph explanation for how it allegedly actually works.  No links or big quotes please, just explain how it works in your own words.
MH
Junior wouldnt be able to explain how the zipper on his handbag work's,or what is in his lipstick that makes the color so bright. How do you expect him to put forth any sort of working principle of the captor that brings forth free energy?.

I presented a breakdown of the schematic many pages ago,but most failed to see what Clarence actually had-even though it couldnt be more clear. Here i sepperated the !captor usless loop transformer from the rest of the series circuit. They are unable to understand that the ground rod's are acting as nothing more than resistors in the neutral/ground line. Clarence is supprised that the more ground rod's he add,the more power he can deliver to his load-->when all he is doing is reducing the resistance in the series circuit.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1433 on: April 11, 2015, 04:10:44 AM »
Hi Pirate88179. The term over unity just implies that the power being delivered to the load is greater than the
power being supplied by the system's power source. It in no way at all implies that the excess energy is
coming from nowhere. If there is excess energy in a system beyond what the power source is supplying, then
that energy most certainly would have to be coming from somewhere. That would definitely still be over unity however.
It doesn't matter where the excess energy is coming from. As long as the average output power divided
by the average input power is greater than 1 (1 = unity), then that would most definitely be over unity. It
has nothing whatsoever to do with where that excess energy might be coming from. :)
All the best...

This is not correct at all in my opinion.  If what you are saying were true, then all solar cells would be overunity...same with wind turbines and water wheels and AV plugs, etc.  I have never, ever heard anyone seriously consider any of them overunity.

Since we agree that "the energy must be coming from somewhere", then we must also agree that overunity is not possible.  You just made my argument for me.

Take a solar cell connected to an led.  Show it to someone who knows nothing about solar cells...he can take all the measurements he wants and see that I am not inputting any energy into the circuit, yet the led is lit.  He can test the circuit using all the latest equipment and it will show O.U. according to your definition.  Yet, the energy is coming from somewhere...the sun.

So, take that simple example a step into the future.  I design a really advanced circuit that appears to run itself.  No one has ever seen anything like this.  It works...period.  Then, I become famous and all the scientists in the world begin researching how my circuit might work.  A research lab figures it out and announces a new form of energy, heretofore unknown, coming from an undiscovered particle.  (They name it after me, of course)  So, now they all know where the energy is coming from....do you still think that would be considered an O.U. circuit?

Of course not.  It would now be in the same classification as the solar cell.

See my point?

O.U. is, and always will be, impossible.

Free energy is possible, in many forms both known, and as yet, unknown.

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1434 on: April 11, 2015, 04:20:30 AM »
Heh.. I used to run the test cells at a major overhaul facility. You know you're alive all right, when you are adjusting the fuel injection pump on a 6-cylinder Continental on the test stand, running a six-foot propeller at 2300 RPM inches away from your head and hands....

I had to learn how to hand prop a 1946 Aeronca Champ I was learning to fly in.  Talking about an accident waiting to happen.  Really dangerous when standing in slippery mud on a rainy day at an old "grass" airfield.  Thankfully, I graduated to C-150's pretty fast and still had both arms and legs.

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1435 on: April 11, 2015, 05:40:55 AM »
Brad:

Nice diagram and your assessment is pretty much in line with what I said a few days ago.  About the resistance between the two different earth grounds, what you stated could very well make sense.  If you wanted to actually measure the resistance, I would not use a multimeter ohm meter to do this, it just doesn't feel right to me for this measurement.  It may indeed work but I would not be comfortable doing it.

The difference in resistance when you add more grounding rods is an interesting question indeed.  To make that measurement I would do something like take a 12-volt battery and add a series resistor and then complete the circuit back to the battery through the two ground points.  A 120-ohm resistor would give you about 100 milliamps through the circuit if you assume the resistance between the two grounding points would be quite low.  Then just measure the voltage drop across the two grounding points, crunch the numbers, and come up the measurement of the resistance between the two earth ground points.

In skimming through Clarence's posts and the parts of the thread I read, I would not be surprised at all if the resistance measurement between the two grounds and it's potential effect on any voltage measurement elsewhere in the circuit never came up in the discussion.  The participants in the thread were just gobbling up the grandiose statements like jellybeans.

Likewise, if two months ago you said to Clarence , "Please tell us the change in resistance between the two grounds as you add more posts, but please don't use the multimeter because it was not really designed for this," I think that would have stumped him.

Still waiting for Mr. Bringdown to share his wisdom with us and explain how the circuit works.

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1436 on: April 11, 2015, 05:50:11 AM »


Likewise, if two months ago you said to Clarence , "Please tell us the change in resistance between the two grounds as you add more posts, but please don't use the multimeter because it was not really designed for this," I think that would have stumped him.

Still waiting for Mr. Bringdown to share his wisdom with us and explain how the circuit works.

MileHigh

If someone dared to actually ask that question, he/she would have been labeled a paid shill/troll and Clarence would have left 2 months ago.  You just can't demand (ie: ask) an answer to a question like this MH, you should know this by now.  You just have to accept what is shown as fact and forget about the real world and physics.  I am just happy that I can add 30 more ground rods to my house and get free energy from the power company.

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1437 on: April 11, 2015, 06:01:22 AM »
What interests me about the Clarence experiment is the possibility of creating Telluric currents.
Ionic flow underground is a much under researched area.
The forerunners like Stubblefield and their technology has been lost in the mists of time.

I wonder where you get your information sometimes.  Telluric currents are just Lenz's law applied on a global scale with the power source coming from changes in space weather.  Just like the Schumann resonance is absolutely useless in terms of designing a free energy system, telluric currents are also pretty much useless also.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1438 on: April 11, 2015, 06:04:11 AM »

Quote from: tinman on April 04, 2015, 03:35:59 AM

    I have removed the captor loop transformer from the circuit,so as you can see a little more clearly what you have. As you can see,the ground rods are nothing more than a resistor on the neutral side. The more ground rods you add,the more you decrease the resistance-the more power avaliable to complete the loop.


WHAT A SAD SAD JOKE!!!!

Clarence

You did good Clarence. The ground is not a resistance as it's made out to be by people who have little grasp on reality. The earth as resonant cavity with is well know to people who actually do work on this. Tesla demonstrated this in his lectures all over the planet and was using it in his transmission of electricity through the earth.

This and your work with the charging system with the Captor is absolutely fantastic. 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1439 on: April 11, 2015, 06:19:24 AM »
You did good Clarence. The ground is not a resistance as it's made out to be by people who have little grasp on reality. The earth as resonant cavity with is well know to people who actually do work on this. Tesla demonstrated this in his lectures all over the planet and was using it in his transmission of electricity through the earth.

First chance to bring up the Schumann resonance and away we go!

I swear to God, the Schumann resonance is the most misunderstood dirty mirror in space.