Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal (Read 1749224 times)

bringdownthezog · « **Reply #1440 on:** April 11, 2015, 06:26:09 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on April 11, 2015, 06:19:24 AM

First chance to bring up the Schumann resonance and away we go!

I swear to God, the Schumann resonance is the most misunderstood dirty mirror in space.

Clarence has shown it works. It will not be necessary to prove it.

bringdownthezog · « **Reply #1441 on:** April 11, 2015, 06:33:22 AM »

Quote from: ramset on April 10, 2015, 08:13:16 PM

Zog Beater
yes please do, I will go after you...

Ramset, What's that ?

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1442 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:09:49 AM »

Quote from: bringdownthezog on April 11, 2015, 06:33:22 AM

Ramset, What's that ?

Are you deaf? Or, I suppose I should ask...can you read?

Bill

PS How has Clarence "shown" that it works without "proving' it? This makes no sense at all.

MileHigh · « **Reply #1443 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:19:13 AM »

Quote from: bringdownthezog on April 11, 2015, 06:26:09 AM

Clarence has shown it works. It will not be necessary to prove it.

Are you going to explain to us how Clarence's circuit works? I am not sure if in the above quote you are answering this question or not.

If you are answering my question with "it will not be necessary to prove it," then does that mean you are not going to explain to us how this 'simple' circuit allegedly works? I would really like to hear what you have to say in your own words, and I bet you that others are interested also.

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Clarence has shown it works.

Bringdown, this is not a place for brainwashing, no matter what side of the debate you are on.

Clarence has shown nothing, period, and you make yourself look very unwise in your attempts to "force" your brainwashing on myself and others.

Just be real, and please explain to us how Clarence's circuit works. If you refuse, then my assumption will be that you are chickening out because presumably you cannot compose three or four paragraphs about electronics and energy and have it look credible simply because you can't.

bringdownthezog · « **Reply #1444 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:26:51 AM »

Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 11, 2015, 07:09:49 AM

Are you deaf? Or, I suppose I should ask...can you read?

Bill

PS How has Clarence "shown" that it works without "proving' it? This makes no sense at all.

Hello Bill and Ramset,
You sounds like it's the first time you have heard of this. Clarence has provided the details of the setup if you need it and shown it to people with pictures. As have others. It was not Clarence's invention after all.

Ramset, What was that again ?

tinman · « **Reply #1445 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:31:39 AM »

Quote from: bringdownthezog on April 11, 2015, 07:26:51 AM

Ramset, What was that again ?

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Clarence has provided the details of the setup if you need it and shown it to people with pictures

So now pictures = proof of a working device lol.
The palava runs deep within you junior.
When do we get to see the proof you keep saying was shown?
And can you answer MH question?-->not a hope in hell.

bringdownthezog · « **Reply #1446 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:37:29 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on April 10, 2015, 07:37:39 PM

Please explain how Clarence's 'simple' device works in your own words. I am not asking for one or two sentences. If you claim that it's all so obvious and so simple, then please give us a detailed four or five paragraph explanation for how it allegedly actually works. No links or big quotes please, just explain how it works in your own words.

Here's a simpler device for you to try and build. It's very common around the world and makes free energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=og8Ja58Oupw

Farmhand · « **Reply #1447 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:41:33 AM »

Well I can confirm that using a mutimeter on Ohms setting is not an accurate way to measure the resistance between two ground rods or arrays. And I'm fairly sure I know why because I've tried it and the reason became obvious to me very quickly.

I'll leave it at that. If someone asks I'll explain what I think and we can then see if the trained guys agree with me. I would prefer either bringdown or Clarence to say why though.

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bringdownthezog · « **Reply #1448 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:52:46 AM »

Quote from: tinman on April 11, 2015, 07:31:39 AM

So now pictures = proof of a working device lol.
The palava runs deep within you junior.
When do we get to see the proof you keep saying was shown?
And can you answer MH question?-->not a hope in hell.

Did he invent it himself Mr.Tintin-oh-so-proving-with-data ? He went with what was available to him from the archives.

He can't provide you with anything here on electronic format that will prove it. That doesn't mean everything mentioned here which is well understood to practitioners needs proof.

Did you get your mistake with the conception of the earth-ground as resistance ?

Farmhand · « **Reply #1449 on:** April 11, 2015, 07:55:14 AM »

Bringdownthezog, you remind me of a person that used to post at Energetic forum in the Don Smith devices too good to be true thread. With your plucking random schematics off the web and claiming they are Free Energy devices. Others will know the "Handle" I'm talking about.

Here is the code of conduct most of adhere to. You make the claim you provide the proof.

The schematic is in Russian or something so you'll need to translate that as this is an English speaking forum.

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tinman · « **Reply #1450 on:** April 11, 2015, 08:01:20 AM »

Quote from: Farmhand on April 11, 2015, 07:41:33 AM

Well I can confirm that using a mutimeter on Ohms setting is not an accurate way to measure the resistance between two ground rods or arrays. And I'm fairly sure I know why because I've tried it and the reason became obvious to me very quickly.

I'll leave it at that. If someone asks I'll explain what I think and we can then see if the trained guys agree with me. I would prefer either bringdown or Clarence to say why though.

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No-you cant just use a DMM to measure resistance between two ground rod's,as the earth between the two ground rods will also have capacitance-much the same as a HHO cell. Your two ground rods act like the plates in a capacitor,and the earth as the dielectric.
http://cgiss.boisestate.edu/~billc/dielec.html.
You can how ever use a DMM if done correct. You will need 2 DMM's,a stable voltage source of known value,and a know value resistor. 1 DMM measures voltage across the known resistor,and the other DMM measures current from known voltage source to ground rod A. Then using ohms law,you can now calculate the resistance through ground rod A and B,as you have a known voltage source for the circuit,a known current flowing through the circuit,and a known voltage value across your known value resistor.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1451 on:** April 11, 2015, 08:23:26 AM »

Quote from: tinman on April 11, 2015, 08:01:20 AM

No-you cant just use a DMM to measure resistance between two ground rod's,as the earth between the two ground rods will also have capacitance-much the same as a HHO cell. Your two ground rods act like the plates in a capacitor,and the earth as the dielectric.
http://cgiss.boisestate.edu/~billc/dielec.html.
You can how ever use a DMM if done correct. You will need 2 DMM's,a stable voltage source of known value,and a know value resistor. 1 DMM measures voltage across the known resistor,and the other DMM measures current from known voltage source to ground rod A. Then using ohms law,you can now calculate the resistance through ground rod A and B,as you have a known voltage source for the circuit,a known current flowing through the circuit,and a known voltage value across your known value resistor.

Excellent! Someone should tell Clarence this. Of course, maybe you just did.

Bill

a.king21 · « **Reply #1452 on:** April 11, 2015, 09:04:02 AM »

Quote from: MileHigh on April 11, 2015, 06:01:22 AM

I wonder where you get your information sometimes. Telluric currents are just Lenz's law applied on a global scale with the power source coming from changes in space weather. Just like the Schumann resonance is absolutely useless in terms of designing a free energy system, telluric currents are also pretty much useless also.

I get my information by analysing 19th century patents.
I also replicate some parts of them.
19th century patents required a working model. Where no model was provided this is clearly stated in the patents.
One little known fact is that you can stimulate the ground and create an ionic flow with it's own magnetic field. The term telluric currents is probably not the correct one in this case, but we do not have the vocabulary today.
It would have been nice if you had let Clarence carry on without upsetting the guy.
The fact that he had 0.1 volts between his earth rods was good scientific information to me, because it confirmed a measurement I had recently made between my two earth rods.

You killed scientific investigation.
Congratulations. Job well done.

We don't need babysitters.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #1453 on:** April 11, 2015, 09:16:51 AM »

Quote from: a.king21 on April 11, 2015, 09:04:02 AM

The fact that he had 0.1 volt between his earth rods was good scientific information to me, because it confirmed a measurement I had recently made between my two earth rods.

I can get 2 volts between my 2 earth rods and you can see this in my many videos where I light a floro tube, 400 leds, and run a motor.

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You killed scientific investigation.
Congratulations. Job well done.

Total BS on your part and you know it.

Bill

bringdownthezog · « **Reply #1454 on:** April 11, 2015, 09:17:50 AM »

Quote from: Farmhand on April 11, 2015, 07:55:14 AM

Bringdownthezog, you remind me of a person that used to post at Energetic forum in the Don Smith devices too good to be true thread. With your plucking random schematics off the web and claiming they are Free Energy devices. Others will know the "Handle" I'm talking about.

Here is the code of conduct most of adhere to. You make the claim you provide the proof.

The schematic is in Russian or something so you'll need to translate that as this is an English speaking forum.

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Farmhand,
You remind me of the drama queen Farah Day who used to demand proofs from everyone and getting quite upset with most everyone every day. Maybe she was on meds.

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