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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1745875 times)

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1380 on: April 09, 2015, 04:57:00 PM »
You have nothing to show yet again. You are talking about a device which you know nothing about. What a waste of time you are. It's a good thing Clarence is not responding to your questions.

Are you going to go ahead and make a replication?  If you do, can you measure the five power flows under different loading conditions as per my marked-up schematic?  Start with a fully recharged battery in each case.  You can expect shorter run times as the power draw from the load increases.

bringdownthezog

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1381 on: April 09, 2015, 05:14:43 PM »
Are you going to go ahead and make a replication?  If you do, can you measure the five power flows under different loading conditions as per my marked-up schematic?  Start with a fully recharged battery in each case.  You can expect shorter run times as the power draw from the load increases.

I'm not the one talking about something I don't know and making pretentious comments like he knows everything there is to know about the system. FYI, all the necessary readings and loading conditions have already been completed by Clarence and posted on these pages.

You can go and play with your marbles now.


MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1382 on: April 09, 2015, 05:21:54 PM »
FYI, all the necessary readings and loading conditions have already been completed by Clarence and posted on these pages.

Can you link to a posting that shows that?

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1383 on: April 09, 2015, 06:25:20 PM »
looking by yourself
not even able to read the thread :o

a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1384 on: April 09, 2015, 07:41:26 PM »
phoebus 33: Spot on.


What interests me about the Clarence experiment is the possibility of creating Telluric currents.
Ionic flow underground is a much under researched area.
The forerunners like Stubblefield and their technology has been lost in the mists of time.


Of course, some of  the highly qualified EEs round here don't even consider thinking out of the box.
They are in the BOX and their minds are forever enslaved.
They are much to be pitied.


The latest re-discovery of the Emme patent is a case in point.
Here is an earth/chemical battery which produces 3 kw.
The funny thing about it is that it needs less and less chemical input as time goes on and the current lasts longer and longer.
It's in the latest update of Patrick Kelly's book and I alerted him to it after a posting on this site.





ramset

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1385 on: April 09, 2015, 07:55:40 PM »
Mr.King
I believe we are about to turn a page in history....

Chet K

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1386 on: April 09, 2015, 07:56:41 PM »
The latest re-discovery of the Emme patent is a case in point.
Here is an earth/chemical battery which produces 3 kw.
The funny thing about it is that it needs less and less chemical input as time goes on and the current lasts longer and longer.
It's in the latest update of Patrick Kelly's book and I alerted him to it after a posting on this site.

Hi a.king21. I didn't realize that Patrick Kelly was still updating his book.  At one point he announced he
wasn't going to maintain it anymore, and I thought some other people began hosting his website/book?

All the best...


ramset

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1387 on: April 09, 2015, 08:33:10 PM »
And here is the other energy from the ground  thread at OUR

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2903.msg47868;topicseen#msg47868

just a wee interlude until Clarence gets done with his chores

a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1388 on: April 09, 2015, 08:47:04 PM »
Mr.King
I believe we are about to turn a page in history....

Chet K


Yes VAR. Ahhh VAR.
var var var .
So easy.
Caught up with Tito L Oracion? Well no, he's still miles ahead.
But we're getting there.
(We hope) lol.

ramset

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1389 on: April 09, 2015, 09:05:04 PM »
 And here is the Wizard from Oz [TinMan] and his new movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKC4fX3XOp4

for those who may not be familiar with David Bowlings charger, ...[has a thread here somewhere
and over at Aarons place] I want to say Turion[energetic handle]???? not certain at this moment
trying to finish a motor job and three other tasks ATM...

Mr.King
Ohh How I would Love to give that Tito a nice Big Squeeeeze .something like this >> :o <<
However.. we shall see...?

TinselKoala

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1390 on: April 09, 2015, 11:18:36 PM »
Yes, I wonder who will be the first to report a battery explosion... I hope they take a video, that will be fun to watch.

a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1391 on: April 10, 2015, 12:17:12 AM »
Yes, I wonder who will be the first to report a battery explosion... I hope they take a video, that will be fun to watch.
Yeah, you have to be careful at those frequencies.
I modified my set up just now with the famous capacitor. It,s charging at 20 khz and 120 volts.
Everything is running cool - the transistor in the oscillator is stone cold.
 Nice.

Farmhand

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1392 on: April 10, 2015, 12:49:56 AM »
Unfortunately I think a lot of bad happenings go unreported. eg. when people go quiet it's always a possibility they accidentally killed themselves trying to replicate a capacitive charger circuit or something dangerous like that. Truth is for a lot of us our family/friends have no idea where we post so if I was to die by accident the posts would just stop.

One thing I definitely do not want to experience is a battery explosion, I've seen the result of a battery explosion in a workshop,
a great deal of equipment was ruined by it and it took a lot of cleaning up. A charging accident on a farm where I worked for a time.
At first the farmer who connected the battery to charge was annoyed that he had destroyed a battery that he needed to use, then he was extremely peeved when he seen everything that he had to throw away. I'll bet he claimed it all as a tax deduction though. So the average tax payer had to pay for his mistake. Like they do quite often. Everything made form cloth was ruined for starters.

If he had to pay to replace everything the bill would have been in the thousands. If a person had been there the story would be different, much worse.

Heck even the UPS gell cell batteries explode when the fools think they can continue to draw a few hundred watts from a couple of 7 amp hour batteries after the power goes out. I keep telling them to either install the software to shut down the computer in a timely manner when the power goes off or don't leave the computer running and go out because if the power goes off the UPS tries to power the computer but the batteries cannot take the drain and they either explode or just drain in minutes and the computer just gets it power cut anyway.

I've explained that the batteries cannot give out 30 to 40 amps for long only a few minutes. But one guy says the UPS is rated for 900 watts 1500VA so he tries to use it to power his computer, I tell him to read the manual but he refuses to do so. Funny thing is
he knows Ohms law but he still doesn't get the concept of an Uninterruptible Power Supply's purpose.

He even tries to run his huge TV from a UPS in power outages. He also tries to charge sulfated wet lead acid batteries with a 12 amp charger. When he puts a battery on the charger I move all my stuff and clear out, he says I'm full of it but he has lots of busted and dead batteries to show his ignorance. He lets batteries drain flat then tries to charge them, I try to explain if he keeps them charged they will last longer and if they do get sulfated he needs to do a long trickle charge or use a desulfator circuit or mine to get the battery to take charge, or go buy a battery desulfator. But alas if I suggest something, then what I suggest is the last thing that is considered. He's too proud to ask me to desufate a battery for him but not to proud to make himself look a fool and endanger others and their stuff.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1393 on: April 10, 2015, 02:01:54 AM »
OK,so some of you think im all against what is being presented here by Clarence. Well the fact is,i am not against the idea,im against there being claims made without proof to back it up.
Anyway (MH lol)-seems that this device needs only a ground wire(thats ground,not neutral from home grid)to work. How ? i dont know yet,but i will work it out soon.
Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vHhgYW3GDI

A wise observer might have this to say about Tinman's video:  "The frequency drift, when his hand nears the coil, implies a very weak field; possibly a nearby radio station signal is pumping the circuit. The frequency is lower but resonant frequency is a function of the L C values of the circuit.  When his hand nears the circuit, the C or capacitance changes, shifting the resonant frequency." 

"I had a transformer one time playing Willie Nelson from a nearby radio station. Instead of buzzing at the normal sound of a transformer you could hear country music inside the windings of the transformer.  The alarm system wires were acting as an antenna and radiating the a.m. radio signal into the transformer.  The radio station frequency was in the megahertz but the modulation was Willie Nelson and the modulation came across in the transformer."

ramset

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1394 on: April 10, 2015, 02:08:14 AM »
Yes it can be dangerous ,these men are trained professionals do not try
this at home in your spare time.

OSHA statistic for Jobsite injuries .
** more people are injured, maimed, blinded or even killed from the miss use of a common screw driver than  any other reported incident.

You two [Tinsel and Farmhand] throw lightning bolts around the kitchen
we don't hope you fry yourself ,or hope it gets caught on camera[Tinsel  :P]....

we know that you take precautions.. don't expect anything less from the other builders here.