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Author Topic: Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid  (Read 545327 times)

gauschor

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #105 on: July 12, 2011, 09:01:38 AM »
Please reconsider some parts of your theory with these hints:

1) The moon actually does spin.
2) If the "gravity" is a pushing force and comes out on the poles, how come people don't fly off or jump higher at these locations?
3) The expression "Pyramid" is greek and the name was given thousands of years later after the pyramids were built - the name was not given because of a "mysterious" power in the center, but because of the top of the pyramid which was made of brighter material gleaming in the sun, looking like a fire from afar. The name is purely superficial and does not explain any deeper background.
Unfortunately I can't recall the original name of the pyramidal structures anymore, and which book it was that explained in more detail.
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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #106 on: July 12, 2011, 01:39:22 PM »
HI Ben,

Thanks for the paraphrase -
I don't know if you read the entire post but he presents a background discussion prior to the theory.

Also thought you might be interested in this comment concerning wood construction.

Quote from: Thomas_Trawoeger on November 23, 2007, 12:54:09 PM
@freecell: I tryed to build the pyramide with copper-tubes, but it didn?t work proper. (I don?t know why)
As i changes the construction into wood, it worked absolutely not, because there was no minus pole.


EDIT:    Concerning Wire

http://www.comshop.tv/tpp/community/index.php?action=view&topicid=11
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   Trawoeger (08.07.2011 08:30):
Hello
I never had sucsess mith multi-strandes wires. I don´z know why, but maybe there is some turbulence inside the wires. You can use the thicker Wire too, but you have to calculate the outside coil and the capacitor depending to the inner coil.
The Formular will be shown here on the next days.


Edit2: 

http://www.comshop.tv/tpp/community/index.php?action=view&topicid=12

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Trawoeger (11.07.2011 09:38):
hello
Well, i use steel with a diameter of 20 x 20 mm (of course hollow with a thickness of 2mm)
(very cheap and everywhere buyable in the mm-zone)
Everything is welded good.
You can use copper as good as Steel, but my working skill did better effects in welding steel as in soldering copper :-)

« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 02:32:00 PM by duff »
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k4zep

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #107 on: July 12, 2011, 03:19:46 PM »
Quote from: duff on July 12, 2011, 01:39:22 PM
HI Ben,

Thanks for the paraphrase -
I don't know if you read the entire post but he presents a background discussion prior to the theory.

Also thought you might be interested in this comment concerning wood construction.


EDIT:    Concerning Wire

http://www.comshop.tv/tpp/community/index.php?action=view&topicid=11

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http://www.comshop.tv/tpp/community/index.php?action=view&topicid=12

Thanks Duff for giving me the heads up on the wood idea of mine and it not working!!!!!!!!  Arrrrgggg, there goes that easier build!!!!! 

Hope we all can keep each other on the "right" path to get this thing to work!!!!!!

Ben

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duff

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #108 on: July 12, 2011, 04:19:03 PM »
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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #109 on: July 12, 2011, 05:09:40 PM »
Hello Community
I want to say Thanks to you, that you try my Device practically (we spoke too much the last days..)
Off Course, I was silence reader of this thread since the beginning, and now, we will have the great chance to prove V12 in more countrys.
But I have to say it very clear: Pleas follow all the steps as described.

It is very important now, to get the first POSITIVE Results without any experiments, because if you have a running pyramide, there would be plenty of time to make experiments.

The Major Problem will occure, if the first guys will haave a non working skulpture in the shack..
To provide this, please follow all Steps as described.

I had so much problems with measures und coils, I cant count.
And if i could understand all the Process inside the Pyramide, i could tell you all about it.
But now, I can only reproduce my V´s, and believe my, I am still stunning like a kid :-)

The last days, i tryed to get some Coppertubes with inches instead of my tubes in Millimeters, to check the necessary measurements. I also tryed to get the cables with non european Norms, but there is no way for me, to get something.

I think, there are very important differences and maybe some new calculations necessary, to get this to run.

To make shure, we will have a working V12 in overunity.com too, you can vote for a member of your desire.
If this member of overunity.com want to make the V12, i will send him all the inside Material (reactor, sand and capacitor) on my Costs to make it running.
I want you to decide, who will get this, because i don´t want ´bad ideas (And Yes, I will pay nobody for good results :-)

I make the same deal with somebody in the german Forum: His name is "Freigeist" and he is the only guy in the whole OU-Scene wich gave more than words to this case.
(The guy made the complete V12 Tutorial in german Language!!!)

So if we would have 3 Guys around with a working V12, we would have a good platform for further research...

You can decide, who´s the guy, but don´t vote for Yourself....  ;D
I would be happy with some real integrated Person here, and it is not necessary to be a fan of me :-)
You can send your vote as PM or to  tpp-et-comshop.tv
Nice greetings
Thomas
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neptune

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #110 on: July 12, 2011, 05:25:15 PM »
I think we should all vote for Ben , K4ZEP if he is up for it . As he is a water deviner , he stands the best chance , and he was amongst the first to start a replication .If Ben is not up for it , he will tell us .Please vote for somebody .
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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #111 on: July 12, 2011, 07:05:12 PM »
Thomas,

Thanks for making such a kind offer. Glad you are posting again over here.

@all

If Ben is up to it then I think he is a good choice. He has a life time of electronic experience which would be great  when it comes to researching how the pyramid works.

Ben, I do have questions about where you would build it since you  live on the 8th floor of a condominium and how you  would transport it to various locations for testing.

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NickZ

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #112 on: July 12, 2011, 07:34:16 PM »
    Guys:
   The word PYRA (fire) MID (center).   For reason...
   If the moon revolves, the dark side which has never been seen from earth would be visible, but it's not.
   It takes words to understand and explain the function of anything. Many have tried to obtain power from a pyramid in the past, as if that was the Great Pyramids original purpose.   
   Piezo electric effect???  I don't think so. Not with these light models.
 
   If we understand where the energy really comes from then we may be able to make a lot more of it, than has been produced up to now. Normal science will not explain it, in any proper way, as it does not understand nor has been able to utilize the vortex theory, in practice.
  The same energy threw a person 20 feet through the air, as some of you may have known or heard of Les Brown.
   I am glad to see you all involved with these tests, and, I'm certainly not knocking them, as I know it takes crawling, to learn to walk.
   I have already made a 6.5 foot base copper framed pyramid, as well as several others, and have built several pyramid tents, houses, green houses, etz...  I am only now waiting to see your results, this time.
    My "words" are coming from over 35 years of observations, and hands on testing. And I am the only one I know of that has spent many years inside of these structures, and have learned more than has been only written about in most pyramid books, as most are very basic, and don't include nor know of the best kept secrets.
   Good luck to all.
                                NickZ
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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #113 on: July 12, 2011, 09:30:40 PM »
Quote from: NickZ on July 12, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
        My "words" are coming from over 35 years of observations, and hands on testing. And I am the only one I know of that has spent many years inside of these structures, and have learned more than has been only written about in most pyramid books, as most are very basic, and don't include nor know of the best kept secrets.

Are you willing to share what you've learned? This is a good place to release 'best kept secrets', or are they dangerous? It'd be a waste of hard earned knowledge if you have something that could be shared and it ends up 'lost' in time. Please consider.

tak

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bourne

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #114 on: July 12, 2011, 09:52:48 PM »
Quote from: NickZ on July 12, 2011, 07:34:16 PM
...
   If the moon revolves, the dark side which has never been seen from earth would be visible, but it's not.
....

It does revolve, very slowly. One revolution is equal to it's 28 day orbit around the Earth, that is why we only see one side.

I hope this helps
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NickZ

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #115 on: July 12, 2011, 10:19:17 PM »
  tak22:
   I would gladly share, what I would consider as secrets, but most, would toss them aside, and trample through my most cherished knowledge. I am not taking the bait, this time. 
  I can direct to to some interesting reading on this subject, not known by most.  The book called OAHSPE.   (free download below)
http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/oahspedownload/OAHSPE.pdf
  There you'll find a thousand pages of information, objective, impartial, knowledge, and history, both the how and what happened  on Earth as well as in the space and dimensions directly above the Earths corporal domains.  There is a whole chapter devoted to the subject of the little known true purpose of the Great Pyramid, Who built it, and the how and why of it.  As well as how it all relates to the NOW.
  Another book you might find of interest is the -Book of Knowledge,  64 KEYS of Enock,  if you can find it. 
   There is interesting information in both books.
   Although there are some things that I can say, do, and help with.  We all get a chance to talk, discuss and contribute, also.
   Ok, I won't bore you all anymore.  Ha!   
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k4zep

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #116 on: July 12, 2011, 10:35:49 PM »
Quote from: duff on July 12, 2011, 07:05:12 PM
Thomas,

Thanks for making such a kind offer. Glad you are posting again over here.

@all

If Ben is up to it then I think he is a good choice. He has a life time of electronic experience which would be great  when it comes to researching how the pyramid works.

Ben, I do have questions about where you would build it since you  live on the 8th floor of a condominium and how you  would transport it to various locations for testing.

Hi Thomas, Duff, Neptune,

First, Thomas,

I'm glad you have joined in our little group here.  I will try not to ask too many questions and keep myself on track.
I will be happy to work with you in any way you wish and if the group wants it that way, then so be it.  Your offer for a working reactor is
a splendid first step, MOST helpful.  I have a finished reactor (but who knows if it will work) and the #16 wire will be here tomorrow to wind the coils in the reactor and the Capacitor.  But, it is easier to start from a working model and then continue!  I will download that book OAHSPE and read it tonight, suggested by NickZ, as reading is my second nature (just did and it is a mouthful!).

Duff,

I have to make the pyramid transportable as I do live on the 6th floor in a Condo.  I will make it where I can break it down using steel or copper tubing, nuts and bolts.  Thomas, I can weld very well but not longer have my TIG welder, but I solder very well using propane torch.    Individual sides will be reinforced gypsum (on the outside) cut to pyramid shape and attached to small tabs on tubing.  Transport in trunk of car to local park about 2 miles from where I live or if I find a hot spot here on the condo grounds, give the old ladies something to talk about!. Initially it will sit on fold-able saw-horses for alignment in the N/S direction +/- etc, later on ground for more output.   It will be a pain but as I have a very inquiring mind, I have to follow through with it.  It is MOST important to know what does not work and to have Thomas's guiding hand here would be absolutely splendid and a time saver!

I have two Email Addresses k4zep@yahoo.com and bthomas201@tampabay.rr.com but prefer to keep it on this list for all to see.  This includes the good, the bad, and the small steps towards a working device.

Respectfully

Ben Thomas, K4ZEP
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 10:56:32 PM by k4zep »
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NickZ

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #117 on: July 12, 2011, 10:42:02 PM »
 bourne:
  The point I'm trying to make is that there is a vortex responsible for both the existance of the Earth, as well as of the Moon, and every other planet, sun and nebula etz... There are open vortex, and closed vortex systems.  The moon, although it makes a complete revolution in 28 days or so,   does so without turning on its axis,  as we are doing right now. 
  I don't want to tie up the thread with an off topic, but this is not all about the moon, its about the force that is responsible for All energies. Including the one working inside the "pyramid space",  that we all would like to be able to... tap. tap. tap. into.
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k4zep

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #118 on: July 12, 2011, 10:44:50 PM »
Quote from: NickZ on July 12, 2011, 10:19:17 PM
  tak22:
   I would gladly share, what I would consider as secrets, but most, would toss them aside, and trample through my most cherished knowledge. I am not taking the bait, this time. 
  I can direct to to some interesting reading on this subject, not known by most.  The book called OAHSPE.   (free download below)
http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/oahspedownload/OAHSPE.pdf
  There you'll find a thousand pages of information, objective, impartial, knowledge, and history, both the how and what happened  on Earth as well as in the space and dimensions directly above the Earths corporal domains.  There is a whole chapter devoted to the subject of the little known true purpose of the Great Pyramid, Who built it, and the how and why of it.  As well as how it all relates to the NOW.
  Another book you might find of interest is the -Book of Knowledge,  64 KEYS of Enock,  if you can find it. 
   There is interesting information in both books.
   Although there are some things that I can say, do, and help with.  We all get a chance to talk, discuss and contribute, also.
   Ok, I won't bore you all anymore.  Ha!

Hi Nick,

Downloaded book, will take more than an evening to read! 
Any idea on the history of the book?

Respectfully,

Ben K4ZEP
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bourne

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Re: Trawöger Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid
« Reply #119 on: July 12, 2011, 10:58:13 PM »
Quote from: NickZ on July 12, 2011, 10:42:02 PM
bourne:
  The point I'm trying to make is that there is a vortex responsible for both the existance of the Earth, as well as of the Moon, and every other planet, sun and nebula etz... There are open vortex, and closed vortex systems.  The moon, although it makes a complete revolution in 28 days or so,   does so without turning on its axis,  as we are doing right now. 
  I don't want to tie up the thread with an off topic, but this is not all about the moon, its about the force that is responsible for All energies. Including the one working inside the "pyramid space",  that we all would like to be able to... tap. tap. tap. into.

I totally agree with you NickZ with the presence of vortices. I know for a fact I can feel my chakra points when I meditate so I have no problem with invisible vortices.

I like to think the Earth and the Moon are in an embrace similar to two ballroom dancers, forever twirling each other through the solar system. All for our pleasure and enjoyment.

I have been known to open my big mouth at the most inopportune moments, so carry on, sorry for interjecting.

All the best
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