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Author Topic: Trawoeer Power Pyramid Version 12 - Electrical output from a homemade pyramid  (Read 545183 times)

k4zep

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Just a thought . Aluminium may not be the best frame material , as we do not know if it needs to be magnetic as well as an electrical conductor . You could use slotted angle iron used to build industrial shelving , or even us the " expanded metal" perforated stuff used for wall corners when plastering .Available where you buy your plaster board .

Hi Neptune,

Don't think it should be magnetic/steel, would distort the earths magnetic field, just a thought.  Who the heck knows.  Will get started on this tomorrow, family stuff for the 4th, going out pm in boat, food and watch fireworks, hope rain holds off here in Florida till after 9 p.m.

Ben K4ZEP

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Hi Ben . TT gives little info about the actual pyramid in his videos , but public opinion suggests this is the same pyramid he used 5 years ago . I built one back then , and he definitely said steel then . Hope you enjoy the celebrations tonight , and that it does not rain .

k4zep

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Hi Ben . TT gives little info about the actual pyramid in his videos , but public opinion suggests this is the same pyramid he used 5 years ago . I built one back then , and he definitely said steel then . Hope you enjoy the celebrations tonight , and that it does not rain .

Sounds good to me....Steel it is!

Ben K4ZEP

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a.king
How do you know the circuit works? did you make on already?

This is what I knew before ever watching this 13 videos:
 In Mexico at a around 4 years old, i saw people getting their fingers wet from a cavity carved on the top of the Olmec head named "Head of Hueyepan" or "La piedra del negro"( the rock of the black man) this last refering to the close looks with african features, , anyway, they would touch the rock and go away , that got my curiosity of course and went to touch the rock, look no water mom!, and ...ZZZZZaaaappp!.....My arm went numb as if hitting a wall with it completelly extended, it was a cold solid shock of cold energy, my cries out of terror brought grandma and people over, they assume a bug bit me!!....
 Thing is, the rock was picked up and carved for a powerful shaman, and its been said has curative powers, as per old story, the shaman recomended that the rock should be always facing the morning sun!! and on top of that the rock is absolutelly and with no doubt piezoelectric!!...Ladies and Gentleman another thing...Not everybody is going to be able to feel the same shock, some of us are more sensitive to this things than others and that's a fact , but it can be acquired with this shock of "bio energy", yes it is bedini's blue electricity, or Tesla's other subtle energy.
 The rock has been moved to another location in the museum, outside and it just doesn't work as per my contacts, this research was done at a distance years ago for me to understand this things, Schauberger imbeded it in his water..And I did cured myself from my liver and kidney damaged due to exposition to chemicals, the skin in my hands peeled off and bleed disgustingly for a couple of years as a consequence, there was no hopes for me...What I know is out of passion for research and desperation...It is interesting that TT uses quartz and tries to imbed a frequency in it, it makes sense to me in the sense that, a quartz crystal needs to be tuned up to get it to work in radio controllers and what not....People what I've just given you is truth, also when I was a child , walking around Teotihuacan the pyramid city around Mexico city, I used to get vertigo, and no it wasn't because of eating bad tacos!!
 Remember our pyramids are oriented with incredible precision.
But yes, we have to make sure he is not using a remote transmission unit.
 Then again I don't believe water needs to be underneath, do we have water going on under the pyramids of Giza?? may be in the ones in Mexico.
I was able to detect a "gravity road" a few years back upstate new york , close to New Hope Pennsylvania, "Weird NJ" magazine gave directions...I found they wer wrong by 2 miles but in the same road, how? I felt "heaviness" and stoped my vehicle, it didn't fail went backwards uphill, a soft one, everytime, sorry movie got lost, but you can go! ...Thing is , yes , The Delaware rive runs perpendicular at the end of this road, and that was my theory, water and piezoelectric rocks, but why it relocated? somehow yes, the earth's magnetic lines are involved...And as any airport expert will tell you, the magnetic lines shift from time to time!! instruments must be calibrated every time!! or aircraft would miss the runways!!....
 Still , with all of it, tunning is necessary for radio reception, so at this point until making a pyramid away from transmission towers we will not know if TT is telling the truth or is just a sick lonely puppy screaming for a few minutes of fame... It could be so patological that is making me sick...I hope he is not, we need to rescue this technolgy and again resources in my case are scarce this days...
 What do you guys think?......
well here my little research into Tesla's circuit....Is it radio or real cosmic energy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd2mSkQ_uog
..Yes I have to be carefull around connections :)

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Have you checked to see if there is a thread here on that device already?
If not maybe you should start one on it and get some replications. 
He seems to state that the same metal plate and ground, can be connected to many units,
and they will all put out energy without draining the source. 
This would be an easy and interesting experiment to try. 
Have you built a replication of it already? 

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I've built several circuits including one using 400 volt capacitors. I am in the process of replicating the Danish developer device. My point is that it needs improving to get it to TUNE in to higher frequencies. Tesla hinted at tuning in to the "wheelwork of nature".
The reason I replied to this thread is that a lot of replicators didn't get anything with the pyramid device.  Not even a milliamp. P Kelly covers a pyramid patent in his free pdf book. I'm sure there's something in pyramids as they work on razor blades etc. It's just not for me.
Incidentally, I was using the Danish developers plate device to pick up radiant energy from  a usb plasma ball device. My meters were reading hardly any micro amps so I just left it for a couple of hours. I then carelessly touched the output wires and received a burn. I then powered a 20 watt unmodified CFL for a full 4 seconds at full brightness!  It taught me not to trust my meters. The Danish developer circuit can stand a lot of variations. I built one circuit from two cfl light bulb components for instance. So the circuit is a very useful one indeed. If you leave it on it's own it will even self charge the capacitors. I'm sure it will charge a super cap over a week or so with just a short aerial. The circuit can scavenge energy from just about anything.  Even the static from the front of a tv tube. But it is free energy and is perfect for experimenting with the  extraction  of energy from the earth as well as the air. I even used it to extract back emf from a pulsed electric motor. Hope this helps. Cheers.

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Trawoeger has written in the german forum that a "water vein" is required for the pyramid to work (as a grounding). I hope he has told that in the videos... (I don't know for what purpose exactly).

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I've built several circuits including one using 400 volt capacitors. I am in the process of replicating the Danish developer device. My point is that it needs improving to get it to TUNE in to higher frequencies. Tesla hinted at tuning in to the "wheelwork of nature".
The reason I replied to this thread is that a lot of replicators didn't get anything with the pyramid device.  Not even a milliamp. P Kelly covers a pyramid patent in his free pdf book. I'm sure there's something in pyramids as they work on razor blades etc. It's just not for me.
Incidentally, I was using the Danish developers plate device to pick up radiant energy from  a usb plasma ball device. My meters were reading hardly any micro amps so I just left it for a couple of hours. I then carelessly touched the output wires and received a burn. I then powered a 20 watt unmodified CFL for a full 4 seconds at full brightness!  It taught me not to trust my meters. The Danish developer circuit can stand a lot of variations. I built one circuit from two cfl light bulb components for instance. So the circuit is a very useful one indeed. If you leave it on it's own it will even self charge the capacitors. I'm sure it will charge a super cap over a week or so with just a short aerial. The circuit can scavenge energy from just about anything.  Even the static from the front of a tv tube. But it is free energy and is perfect for experimenting with the  extraction  of energy from the earth as well as the air. I even used it to extract back emf from a pulsed electric motor. Hope this helps. Cheers.

@a.king21, I've tried to reply the circuit of the Danish developer with the proper plate, aerial, etc... I'm sorry it doesn't work. Look at the picture. I hope that could be from errors in the realization, I'm not an electrician  ;D would be interesting if someone else replicate and test it too

 

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Hi All,

Well starting the process.  Ordered 3/4 plastic rod to wind the tuning coils on.  Going to hardware store then Pet (fish) store, looking at
quartz sand.  Tomorrow will check out plumbing supply for the 3/8 and 1 1/4 hard drawn copper pipe and two end adapters. Might use CU end caps and center drill them for the 3/8 tubing but trying to build it as shown.

I sure wish there were a way to ask the good German fellow a few questions to clear up some fine points in his videos. 

Then going to watch the videos again tonight and see if I missed anything.  Tomorrow morning early, will go to a nice field near hear and "dowse" and see if any water hot spots here in FL.  I noted that he uses either RF or a HV transformer to "charge" the Copper/quartz cell.  From the video, in this demo, he uses 27mhz RF from amplified CB unit or said that a 10 to 15 KV AC from a furnace transformer could do the job also.  Does anyone know if DC high voltage can charge the cell?  I can use RF, HV AC or HV DC, all available to me.  Going to pick up a roll of #16 solid wire tonight.  Might be a problem with the insulation breakdown with it when subjecting to the high voltage during charging...will probably add a couple layers of heat shrink tubing where the wire enters the 5mm holes in the 3/8" center tubing.  Just thinking here.

Ben K4ZEP


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Does anyone know of anyone who has duplicated Thomas's Pyramid results yet?

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Hi All,

I sure wish there were a way to ask the good German fellow a few questions to clear up some fine points in his videos. 

Ben K4ZEP

Hi Ben

Not sure what you need to ask TT...everything was pretty crystal clear really.  Those 'tuning' coils act more as a capacitor than anything else, that's why only ONE end is hooked.

Let me save you some double work.  Whatever you do, DONT use magnet wire.  The dielectric will crap out during the charging process as you have suggested.  I think TT has been a little bit hasty in his guestimate of requiring a 15kv oil ignition xformer.  I ran some tests with high quality insulated wire of the same size wound on copper and the insulation started to fail at around 4kv DC (only 15watt input)....my own high voltage setup.

I think 1.5 - 3kv is more than ample.  You only want enough charge to align the quartz domains.  It's basically a big scalar crystal receiver.

Regards.

k4zep

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Hi Ben

Not sure what you need to ask TT...everything was pretty crystal clear really.  Those 'tuning' coils act more as a capacitor than anything else, that's why only ONE end is hooked.

Let me save you some double work.  Whatever you do, DONT use magnet wire.  The dielectric will crap out during the charging process as you have suggested.  I think TT has been a little bit hasty in his guestimate of requiring a 15kv oil ignition xformer.  I ran some tests with high quality insulated wire of the same size wound on copper and the insulation started to fail at around 4kv DC (only 15watt input)....my own high voltage setup.

I think 1.5 - 3kv is more than ample.  You only want enough charge to align the quartz domains.  It's basically a big scalar crystal receiver.

Regards.

Morning EG! 

Thanks for the info, you are absolutely correct that the video is VERY complete, not being picky but just want to have all the ducks in a row and sort out everything before I start a build.  I pretty well had decided that there is no way standard home wiring, THN, THHN etc, could handle 15KV from previous experiences and would break down.  I have a Variac so I can control my output no problem, have a 7.5KV furnace and a 15KV neon sign transformer, plus a 2.5 KV AC switching power supply.  HV probes, to measure.  It is unique that there is physical alignment of the quartz domains and as you say probably a scalar receiver. He seems to say that it is DC output but the scope shot shows a pulse output and I suspect that is a AC fan motor, internally rectified to dc.  Again a slight unknown variable.  Another thing, THomas said that metal was not important in the Pyramid (another member noted that it was built of Steel 5 years ago, and looks that way in the welding spots) but all pieces had to be electrically connected, and he did run it with a ground at first but after he got it working, he took off the ground at the very end.  I think he insinuated that a static field can build up on it and shock you and hence the ground is needed while working on it......another variable to look at. 

 Has he ever built a smaller unit?  I live in a condo and will have to transport it around with the elevator/trunk of car unless I can pick up on a hot spot 6 stories up.   A .5 to .75 meter unit sure would be more manageable unless I can break it down for transport but only 36" doors out of condo.   There is a nice open field only about 2 miles from where I live to test in/film/etc.

Last night, went to PetsMart and look at aquarium sand.  Pretty fine stuff, can get what looks like fine black quartz or tan quartz but doesn't say that's what it is for sure, WalMart, looked at play sand, too many different size crystals in there, going to pool supply and look at filter media, Probably what I will get as it is screened/sized for best filtration and that is what Thomas says to use too.

Picked up where Thomas said that the walls of the Pyramid HAVE TO BE A MINERAL  Said very important.  Hummmmmmmm, even if I use thin Sheetrock, this sucker will still be heavy......Always something to work with......Wonder if a thin skim coat of tile cement would work over 1/2 foam.....sort of like stucco on  a house.  First, got to get something working true to his build......then can experiment......

Another day, stuff to do, retired, keeps me busy!
Respectfully,

Ben K4ZEP

 

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Hi Ben . As you may know , I am not a big believer in water divinig , but having said that , I am open minded . I want to encourage you in this replication , as I have done in the past . Re sand . Avoid play sand , as I have been told it is powdered limestone . This sand is vital . Get it wrong and the whole thing becomes a waste of time . Personally . I would start by building the reactor . That way , you can tackle the 2 biggest mysteries first . If you can "treat " the sand with RF or high voltage , and then get it to pass the multimeter test shown on the video , you will feel happier to build the pyramid . I still feel you would be better with a collapsible full size job than a smaller version . I like your mineral coating idea , but as you say ,this is an experiment for after you get a working model . Learn more about sand . Google it , perhaps . Good luck with your experiments , and keep us posted .

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Hi Ben . As you may know , I am not a big believer in water divinig , but having said that , I am open minded . I want to encourage you in this replication , as I have done in the past . Re sand . Avoid play sand , as I have been told it is powdered limestone . This sand is vital . Get it wrong and the whole thing becomes a waste of time . Personally . I would start by building the reactor . That way , you can tackle the 2 biggest mysteries first . If you can "treat " the sand with RF or high voltage , and then get it to pass the multimeter test shown on the video , you will feel happier to build the pyramid . I still feel you would be better with a collapsible full size job than a smaller version . I like your mineral coating idea , but as you say ,this is an experiment for after you get a working model . Learn more about sand . Google it , perhaps . Good luck with your experiments , and keep us posted .

Thanks Neptune,

Have my order ready for the copper @ McMaster Karr but going to Lows and Home Depot and see if I can get the half hard rigid tubing there first, then might try Castle Plumbing Supply.  Don't know about the adapters, might just use end caps and center drill them in my little lathe.  Then solder one end.  Should be fine.

I do know dousing works for me, have found buried wells, artesian wells, buried submersible  well that was lost and pump stopped working for a neighbor about 20 years ago. shesssssss and I am the most skeptical, or a show me kind of person. I can NOT explain it, you just think "water" and walk around and it works......First well I ever doused was on my fathers land 58 years ago or so, found 3 good spots, dad told the drillers here, one of my spots, their "dowser" (yes, they used a dowser too! another old geezer) said, very good spot too, drilled 10 feet thru clay/sand, 65 feet through blue granite, drill dropped 10 feet and will artesianed for a day and settled down 10 feet below ground level after pumping it down with huge pump, could only draw it down 5 feet.  Best water I ever drank!  Strange story but true.  Checked about 5 years ago, well is still there in front of house dad built.

 I always used a live "Y" from a apple or peach tree but have used crossed wires, don't like them as much.  Believe it or not but it will twist the bark off the "Y's" over a strong point when trying to point down.....Yah, I know sounds honkey. 

Anyway, keep any input coming, any ideas, thoughts, I realize this is far out, but going to try it! How this device can draw energy from these areas is beyond me.......Feel like I am watching "Fringe" live! Onward!

Hummm.  If those crystals can be a receiver, wonder if they could be used to build a transmitter?  Thinking out loud.

Respectfully
Ben K4ZEP

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Hi All,

Have filter sand, looks good.  Have all tubing ordered, have sources for all materials, 1/4" gypsum board, etc.  Now have to wait for material to come in.  Home Depot, Lows, WalMart, PetsMart, no go for stuff.....but OK, found it all.  Just takes a little time.  Will build reactor first. try HV first, see if it passes the first test, then build pyramid last.  Be back with pictures when stuf comes in and build progresses.  Might go looking for hot spots tomorrow.....All in due time.

Ben K4ZEP