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e2matrix

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #105 on: November 13, 2010, 07:27:50 PM »
I think both mine and broli's corrected diagram (the one without the diode ) is what hidave is using. 

I've got some 50000 (fifty thousand) uf Caps and just tried one.  Also got a 550 Farad super cap but haven't tried it yet.  Did try a 1650 ufd 200 volt cap precharged to about 8.5 volts.  This dropped battery voltage 0.01 volts when hooked up and hasn't moved since.  I'll leave this one on for a while but I think I was having better luck with ibpointless's original circuit.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #106 on: November 14, 2010, 04:27:42 AM »
I have a new version of Captret that I think will make some not very confortable. Since the theories around has to do with voltage not current and some people seems to be able to replicate this phenomena and others only see the usual, I decided to share my new findings.

So please no need to flame me. I am only sharing my DATA with no conclusions about why and how it works.

I connected the circuit as shown on the picture attached. The two caps are identical eletrolitic caps 560uf and 250vdc. Bought on ebay from one nice batch of 15 (cheap too).

They are connected to two 12 volts lead acid battery of 100amp/h and 70amp/h car batteries. The idea here is not to see if the battery will charge but if they will discharge and at what rate.

I am using a 25 watt LED (also from ebay) that is lit to subjectively speaking 1/10 of its power and still very bright to the eye. Difficult to look at it.

Resting voltages totaled 24.8192v steady (since they have been not used for days now). As soon circuit was connected voltage drop to 24.6550v and have being going up steadily. I later started measuring the current in both negative and positive poles of the batteries and surprisingly enough the current consumption is not equal in both sides. Current has stabilized at 3.5ma (one can see the picture notes).

I measure the temperature of the LED and it is room temperature, feeling cold to the touch. I used an electronic laser meter for the measurement.

I decided to test another LED of exactly same type (25 watts) and see how much current it would take to light it up to "eye compatible luminosity" and I was not surprised to see it takes at least 200 ma at 20v. It also gets very hot at that power consumption, going to as high as 60 degrees Celsius.

To me it is very difficult to understand how I can light an LED to that brightness (as seen on the photo) with so little current (under 5ma at 24+volts).

Fausto.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #107 on: November 14, 2010, 04:40:09 AM »
This is really strange.  I am very surprised by what I have found in experimenting with this Captret stuff.  Check out my video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1z-aN3Hig

plengo

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #108 on: November 14, 2010, 05:35:35 AM »
I think this thing is very powerfull. Look at this picture. On the right I have one LED in series with the Captrets and the battery.

It is fully lit. Running a wopping 1.84ma at 24.80v (pun intended). On the left I have 4 of the exact same LED fully lit (both sides seems to the eye at least same luminosity each LED). The four LEDs are in series.

Those LEDs on the left are what the Captret is running for that miserable 1.84ma of input. To me it sounds like the Captret is capable of making an input run four times stronger for the price of one.

More voltage is absolutely better. I can run many LEDs at an amazing less than one miliamp fully using this technique.

Fausto.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2010, 05:55:43 AM by plengo »

conradelektro

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #109 on: November 14, 2010, 11:51:01 AM »
This is really strange.  I am very surprised by what I have found in experimenting with this Captret stuff.  Check out my video:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF1z-aN3Hig

@ Lasersaber,

great video, I agree, there is some correlation between the strange things going on "electro-chemically" in a Stubblefield Coil and in a Captret.

I always ask experimenters to make a drawing of the circuit (however simple the circuit is) instead of verbally explaining the circuit. Specially for non English speakers the verbal circuit explanations are extremely hard to follow. Look at the drawing Plengo did on a piece of paper by hand (in the post above your post), it becomes immediately clear what he is talking about. Also Lidmotor does this nicely in his videos.

Greetings, Conrad

hoptoad

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #110 on: November 14, 2010, 12:30:21 PM »
I have a new version of Captret that I think will make some not very confortable. Since the theories around has to do with voltage not current and some people seems to be able to replicate this phenomena and others only see the usual, I decided to share my new findings.

So please no need to flame me. I am only sharing my DATA with no conclusions about why and how it works.

I connected the circuit as shown on the picture attached. The two caps are identical eletrolitic caps 560uf and 250vdc. Bought on ebay from one nice batch of 15 (cheap too).

They are connected to two 12 volts lead acid battery of 100amp/h and 70amp/h car batteries. The idea here is not to see if the battery will charge but if they will discharge and at what rate.

I am using a 25 watt LED (also from ebay) that is lit to subjectively speaking 1/10 of its power and still very bright to the eye. Difficult to look at it.

Resting voltages totaled 24.8192v steady (since they have been not used for days now). As soon circuit was connected voltage drop to 24.6550v and have being going up steadily. I later started measuring the current in both negative and positive poles of the batteries and surprisingly enough the current consumption is not equal in both sides. Current has stabilized at 3.5ma (one can see the picture notes).

I measure the temperature of the LED and it is room temperature, feeling cold to the touch. I used an electronic laser meter for the measurement.

I decided to test another LED of exactly same type (25 watts) and see how much current it would take to light it up to "eye compatible luminosity" and I was not surprised to see it takes at least 200 ma at 20v. It also gets very hot at that power consumption, going to as high as 60 degrees Celsius.

To me it is very difficult to understand how I can light an LED to that brightness (as seen on the photo) with so little current (under 5ma at 24+volts).

Fausto.

Great to login again after a long absence from this forum (and the net as a whole)
Glad to see you're still at it Plengo!

Experimenting that is...  :D

You've shared a few observations in your quote above that really make me pause to wonder.
The assymetrical current readings for starters. Hmmmmmnnnn what to make of that one ?

Anyway, great stuff Plengo. Looking forward to more posts from you.

Cheers from Hoptoad

gyulasun

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #111 on: November 14, 2010, 12:58:20 PM »
Dear Hoptoad,

Would you check your personal message box, when you have some time of course.

Cheers,  Gyula

hoptoad

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #112 on: November 14, 2010, 02:35:07 PM »
I think this thing is very powerfull. Look at this picture. On the right I have one LED in series with the Captrets and the battery.

It is fully lit. Running a wopping 1.84ma at 24.80v (pun intended). On the left I have 4 of the exact same LED fully lit (both sides seems to the eye at least same luminosity each LED). The four LEDs are in series.

Those LEDs on the left are what the Captret is running for that miserable 1.84ma of input. To me it sounds like the Captret is capable of making an input run four times stronger for the price of one.

More voltage is absolutely better. I can run many LEDs at an amazing less than one miliamp fully using this technique.

Fausto.

Is that from the same circuit as the one you previously posted on this page?

Cheers from Hoptoad

Kator01

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #113 on: November 14, 2010, 03:43:29 PM »
lasersaber,

can you please post a circuit of what you did in your video ? it is clear to me what you did with 2 positive leads of the first two cap and the negative lead of the third cap in series

Regards

Kator01

PS : @all : this effect might have to do with aluminium-oxid-layer of the casing which is in direct contact to the electrolyte ( depending on the type of cap, of course ) and may cause a glow-discharge which is another interesting phaenomenon.

See here :
http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/borax.htm

See also Heffner work :

Topics
Orange Glow Cell - Jan 2006 (pdf)

. A Method for Producing Free Energy - Jan 2006 (pdf)

http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

nievesoliveras

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #114 on: November 14, 2010, 04:01:10 PM »
Maybe it is this what @lasersaber did.

plengo

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #115 on: November 14, 2010, 04:24:40 PM »
Is that from the same circuit as the one you previously posted on this page?

Cheers from Hoptoad

hello my friend. Great to hear from you too.

YES, it is from the same circuit. I call it version 3 (v3).

Fausto.

nievesoliveras

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #116 on: November 14, 2010, 04:33:31 PM »
Is this correct?

plengo

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #117 on: November 14, 2010, 04:37:31 PM »
Is this correct?

Hello nievesoliveras. YES it is correct.

Fausto.

nievesoliveras

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #118 on: November 14, 2010, 04:45:28 PM »
Thank @plengo!
Nice to see you around.

Jesus

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #119 on: November 14, 2010, 05:06:03 PM »
Hi All,

I measured the setup from my last circuit using two caps charging the ultra-cap, the voltage initially rose to 2.247v but has now dropped to 2.241v (-0.006v) after 2 days. Have to keep experimenting with different setups.

@Plengo, That is a great setup you have working. What would be the current draw from a small incandescent lamp?