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Offline ibpointless2

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Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« on: October 20, 2010, 12:49:51 AM »
I believe that our regular electronics will not achieve over unity easily due to they are based on the idea that you can’t get over 100 percent efficiency. That is why I took it upon myself to study electronic parts differently, not like how we see them if you were to open an electronics book. This has led me to many discoveries such as with electrolytic capacitors. Many of us know a capacitor to have two leads, one positive the other negative, but I say in over unity electronics the capacitor has three leads, one positive one negative, and other is called “o” because I could not find a better name for it. Yes I said three leads and might be wondering where that other lead is? It’s been there all this time and yet no one has paid it any attention. The other lead is the top of the capacitor.
The top of the capacitor hooked to the negative lead will produce a potential difference, but what makes it noteworthy is the fact that connection won’t affect the storage in the capacitor. So naturally the capacitor can do more work than once thought, it can hold more power. So long as you have done the work to put the power in form the normal leads the top to negative will give you power, but like all capacitor the main storage will go down over time. But for the time when you load the top and negative down and remove the load it bounces back just like an electret would and allows you to do even more work. So I call it a “Captret”, capacitor – electret.
Don’t let other components fool you too, a LED can be used as a solar panel and so can some didoes too. We must change our thought process to accommodate over unity if we ever want to achieve it.


I have made a youtube video of it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs7B1vhS0Vk


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Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« on: October 20, 2010, 12:49:51 AM »

Offline ibpointless2

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2010, 03:02:17 PM »
For anyone reading this and don't fully understand what is going on it's really simple.

You charge the capacitor like normal and just like a battery it will hold that charge until a load is applied.

But instead of applying the load on the leads you place one on the top of the capacitor and the other on one of the leads. This can supply a load without affecting the charge that is in the capacitor.

So you charge the capacitor up to 100 percent then put a load on the capacitor top and on one of the leads you can perform work off that without affecting the 100 percent that is in the capacitor, so thus you can do more than a 100 percent of work.

But just like a battery a capacitor will loose it charge over time, but for most of the time you'll still will get greater than 100 percent.

But don't let that stop you. For when you charge a capacitor and then completely short it out it will give a memory effect that will recharge the capacitor and thus allows you to do more work off the top and one of the leads. 

And what i'm trying to get to people is that our current electronics like capacitors, diodes, LED's, etc. will make it hard to achieve overunity because they're based on a closed system that believes that overunity is impossible, so we must rethink our current electronics to be more overunity.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2010, 06:52:03 AM »
it's good buddy  ;)

continue to explore  :)




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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2010, 01:42:48 PM »
it's good buddy  ;)

continue to explore  :)

Thank you for the words of encouragement.

In the attachment I have included a diagram of what the Captret looks like and that I call the top connection “o” because “+” and “-“ were already taken.

I have learn many thing so far, like theirs enough power in the o and the + to flash a red LED. I also learn something very important too, when you connect the o and the - together it will charge captret up after a load such as the LED without effecting the standing voltage thats in the capacitor itself.

Best way that I can come up with to explain what is happen is that the one capacitor has become two but when it comes to recharging there seems to be that it doesn’t destroy the dipole or something when it recharges the Captret. And for super caps the second cap acts more like a capacitor then a super cap.

Does anyone know of a circuit that allow me to charge up the captret but when it gets to around 2 volts short it out to the + to make an LED flash? And have this continue to flash so I can see how long the Captret will go for. If not i’m going to start working with higher voltage so that when the captret gets to around 120 volts it would flash a neon and i’ll dump that charge into a battery so that I will be radiantly charged. Or see if I can get a pulsed motor to work off the pulses?



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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2010, 12:01:43 PM »
I made a video of it blinking a LED to show that there is some useable energy in it and I show how it self recharges without affecting the storage inside the capacitor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfbrVHWJwpc



It will only blink at around 2 volts, I wonder if I use a zener diode to let it build up on the charge cycle and when it gets to 2 volts the zener diode allows it to flow to light up the LED? anyone ever tried this?

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 05:10:55 PM »
It seems that each time you recharge the captret it gets a higher voltage value.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 05:28:14 PM »
It seems that each time you recharge the captret it gets a higher voltage value.

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Yes recharging anything gives you a higher voltage value, and letting the captret sit for some hours its voltage will raise above the voltage thats in the capacitor too. The captret is recharging itself when you connect the “o” with the “-“ and remove the connection and it will read a higher voltage due to recharging and thus you can used that recharge to power a load such as an LED, and if you let that sit for hours again just like a electret it will recharge it self but this time to a higher level then whats in the capacitor. Crazy  :o

With it getting a higher voltage value every time I recharge without affecting the main power in the capacitor itself; I think I may stubbled across overunity. Because you have the voltage of cap being charge to 100% and then the captret being able to perform a load over 1% without affecting the 100%, when you add it up I have over 100% power being produced. It kind of like a perpetual charge in the captret, but you need to supply the power to the capacitor first to get it and so long as the capacitor holds it charge (which most do for a long time) you will have a perpetual motion of charge that can perform work such as lighting an LED.  ;D

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 09:01:39 PM »
Hi IB,

Great work - I had a bit of a play and it does exactly what you say.

Please be careful that the DMM is not providing the charge to your cap.

To prove this, try your experiment without using the meter and see if it continues to light the led.

Kind Regards, Penno

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 12:25:39 AM »
Hi IB,

Great work - I had a bit of a play and it does exactly what you say.

Please be careful that the DMM is not providing the charge to your cap.

To prove this, try your experiment without using the meter and see if it continues to light the led.

Kind Regards, Penno


Thanks,

I’ve tried it without the meter and the LED still lights up. All I need now is a circuit that allows the charging to build up to 2 volts then pass it through the LED to blink it and have the process continue and see how long it really does last.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 10:00:34 AM »
Could the capacitor interacting with environement like ZPE or Aether ?
This is very intriguing phenomena, if you don't discharge the +- side when flash the LED with O and +, maybe a method to tap in the environement energy... Good job !!!

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 02:24:20 PM »
Could the capacitor interacting with environement like ZPE or Aether ?
This is very intriguing phenomena, if you don't discharge the +- side when flash the LED with O and +, maybe a method to tap in the environement energy... Good job !!!

I wonder too if it was tapping the energy from the vacuum. But seems odd that something so simple could tap into the ZPE? From what i’m seeing is that it seems it doesn’t destroy the dipole when using the captret, its like the energy gets used and put back. What makes me wonder is that after you flash a led you don’t need to connect it to the charge of the capacitor because it will slowly recharge itself which makes me think it could be tapping into the ZPE around it from energy that was created when charging the capacitor, their’s like a pool of energy that is created around it that maybe opening the gates of ZPE?  ;D

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2010, 02:34:26 PM »
This is fascinating stuff..... someone needs to conduct a control test.

i.e
1: Charge up cap A at 100% ... then discharging the cap through a led with traditional methods - using the positive and negative legs of the cap (much the same frequency as done in the captret way, i.e flash the led periodically) 

2: Now charge cap B at 100%, now "discharge" the cap through the captret method.

The point to this test is determining whether or not the effect is an illusion or over unity?

Maybe after 5 hours of run time, measure the voltage in both A and B caps.

can anyone else propose a better test? I am keen to do what I have suggested my self... just need to find my super caps (there in my stuff somewhere lol)

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2010, 02:46:14 PM »
This is fascinating stuff..... someone needs to conduct a control test.

i.e
1: Charge up cap A at 100% ... then discharging the cap through a led with traditional methods - using the positive and negative legs of the cap (much the same frequency as done in the captret way, i.e flash the led periodically) 

2: Now charge cap B at 100%, now "discharge" the cap through the captret method.

The point to this test is determining whether or not the effect is an illusion or over unity?

Maybe after 5 hours of run time, measure the voltage in both A and B caps.

can anyone else propose a better test? I am keen to do what I have suggested my self... just need to find my super caps (there in my stuff somewhere lol)



I thought of doing something like that but have both captret and capacitor going at the same time to see who goes the longest. My idea was to have the captret flash and when it did the light of a LED right next to the captret led will get power and send that to transistor and have the capacitor flash so they both flash at the same time.

Right now my biggest problem is making circuit for the captret. because…

System A is the simple recharge method. Load the captret and then let it sit, just like a electret it will gain some of it charge back and SOMETIMES GAIN A HIGER VOLTAGE THEN WHATS IN THE CAPACITOR!

System B will require a circuit that knows when it has charge above 2 volts or even 3 volts when its charge mode of “o” to “-“. And here is the biggest problem!!!!! you need it when it reaches 3 volts to cut off the “o” to “-“ because if you don’t it will pull power out of the capacitor and not the captret making a all results void. So until it gets to 3 volts the “o” and “-“ need to be connected and when it does get to 3 volts the “o” and the “-“ need to be disconnected and the “o” and the “+” need to be connected to perform load.


And if you don’t feel doing all that and want a quick answer just charge up a capacitor and short it out, then connect the “+” to the top of the capacitor to see what voltages you get from a “drained” capacitor.

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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2010, 05:36:44 PM »
These captrets are very interesting things! I've been doing more experimenting with them but this time i'm am just shocked at what I found.

I used all my super caps for other experiments so I took a normal capacitor and charged it up with a 9 volt battery. Then I took a green alligator clip and shorted out the capacitor, and normal electronics would tell us that there is no more power left. I kept it shorted out and hook my negative of my meter to the positive of the capacitor and the positive of the meter to the top of the capacitor and it read milli-volts! Of course the meter would act like a load and drain it of its power.

Now for the crazy part! I left it sitting shorted out on the positive and negative of the capacitor and removed my meter so that no power from my meter would get in and let it sit for a few seconds. I hook it all back up and it gain in voltage!!!!!! I repeated it and still it gains in voltage!

of course I made a Youtube video of it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4fGpEDaQGc


So where is this energy coming from? why does a capacitor that is shorted out still supply power? It could be tapping the ZPE field? But it reminds me of a electret because it can self charge. I'll take any suggestions that you guys have on what this thing is.


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Re: Captret - Capacitor and Electret
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2010, 08:10:54 PM »
@ibpointless2,

I did short out the main terminals on a electrolytic capacitor.
I then shorted the wires to the metal can of the cap.

Every time I remove the short the voltage climbs to
approx. 0,05 Volt. I have shorted out the metal can 20
times now but the voltage always climb back.

I get plus at the metal can and minus at the shorted main terminals.

[EDIT] I have seen up to 0,1 Volt if I let the capacitor rest
          for longer time without short circuit.

Groundloop.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2010, 09:00:48 PM by Groundloop »

 

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